Very convenient zoom range, but it is never my go-to lens

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Personally, I’m completely underwhelmed by the creative limitations of what this lens’s convenient zoom range, coupled with its rather mediocre variable aperture, offers.

What follows is not an objective or a technical review, but more of a commentary about how I have experienced working with this lens. Please keep this in mind because, quite seriously, your preferences may mean that you will actually love it.

However, for me the aesthetics of this lens mean that it rarely comes out of the camera bag, and I’d much rather grab my iPhone 13 Pro if I need the flexibility of this zoom lens (more on that at the end of this review).

What motivated me to buy the Panasonic 12-60mm f3.5-5.6 zoom lens?

I got this lens shortly after diving back into photography, after purchasing a new Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III body. I paired up my E-M5 Mark III with two prime lenses I knew I’d love using. First, the Panasonic 25mm f1.7 prime, which is a superb lens at an incredibly low price. Second, I just couldn’t go past the very fun Olympus 9mm f8 fisheye body-cap lens. But I thought I needed something more convenient to cover other shooting situations, to complement the other two lenses.

What don’t I like about the Panasonic 12-60mm f3.5-5.6 zoom lens?

I thought I’d use this zoom all the time. In fact it rarely finds its way onto my camera body. Quite simply, whenever I’ve gone out shooting with this zoom, I’ve always returned with a batch of disappointingly unimaginative results. But yet, that rarely happens for any of my other lenses. Why is that?

Well, partly it could be that the convenience of its zoom range – equivalent to a 24mm-120mm on a full-frame 35mm camera – charms me into over-reliance on zooming, rather than actually stopping for a moment to think about my composition and walking (or running) over to wherever I need to be to get the image I want?

Another factor, though, is that because I shoot almost exclusively either in fully manual mode – or else in aperture-priority or shutter-priority modes, depending on the context – the variable aperture of this lens just interferes too much with how I think about light when I’m shooting.

Finally, its mediocre light-gathering ability, together with the related lack of a shallow depth of focus and depth of field – which go hand-in-hand with its variable f3.5-5.6 aperture range – are both utter nails in the coffin for this lens.

Your mileage may vary.

Although I’m very critical of this lens, it’s worth emphasizing that much of what I’ve experienced is highly subjective.

For instance, my aesthetic preferences and shooting style were formed while growing up on a diet of 1970’s and 1980’s manual cameras and prime lenses. My original outfit was a Pentax MX and Pentax Super-A, teamed up with a Pentax f1.4 50mm prime, the f1.7mm 50mm prime on the Super-A, and a Ricoh Rikenon P 105mm F/2.8 Macro lens, as well as some cheaper wide angle lenses which were fun.

It’s therefore hardly surprising that I would again gravitate to the same kind of equipment with my new Olympus-body based outfit, as what I had with the Pentax outfit. Indeed, back then I also even owned a Pentax 35-70mm f3.5-5.6 zoom lens, and guess what? It too rarely found its way onto either of my camera bodies.

I hope that’s another useful indicator for you of whether you’ll enjoy using this lens or not.

From the many technical reviews I’ve read, this is by all accounts a very decent lens, and it is also very decently priced. Hence, I really mean it when I say that your mileage may vary. Although I hope you’ll find something useful in what I say above about my experiences of working with this lens, please keep in mind that these are simply my personal experiences. You may love this lens, but I really do not like it at all.

Concluding remarks.

If you’re considering buying this lens, and if you generally enjoy shooting with zoom lenses and don’t mind a variable aperture on your zoom, then unlike me you may enjoy working with the Panasonic Lumix G Vario 12-60mm F3.5-5.6 ASPH zoom lens.

Still, on an aesthetic level, this well-built, extremely convenient, and very well-priced lens leaves me utterly cold. Moreover, now that I’ve ordered some more glass – this time, it’s a manual focus Rokinon 85mm f1.4 prime – I suspect I’ll be hunt around for someone who wants to swap with me for a reasonable prime that I don’t yet have. Better that than it taking up space and adding weight to my bag, given that it almost never hangs around on my camera’s body or sees any light.

Here’s a parting thought, though, to emphasize that I really do stand by the above despite it all being very subjective.

On those occasions when I do want (or need) the convenience or flexibility of something more automatic – and especially if I know that the situation will be fast-changing and / or shall involve social interactions and other distractions so that I won’t have the time to reflect on how to get the images I want with my camera, then I’d sooner reach into my back pocket for the iPhone 13 Pro, than to start change lenses and slap this Panasonic zoom onto my Olympus body.

Apart from the advantages of computational photography, the iPhone 13 Pro comes with three separate built-in prime lenses, and each of them has its own sensor-shift optical image stabilisation. I can whip that out of my back pocket in no time, and start capturing many fleeting moments, all long before I would even have finished mounting the Panasonic zoom onto my camera’ body. Eventually, I’d want to slap a prime lens back on it anyway, so that’s why I wouldn’t recommend this lens to anyone. Indeed, I’d rather dispense with variable-aperture zoom lense alltogether.
 
Personally, I’m completely underwhelmed by the creative limitations of what this lens’s convenient zoom range, coupled with its rather mediocre variable aperture, offers.

What follows is not an objective or a technical review, but more of a commentary about how I have experienced working with this lens. Please keep this in mind because, quite seriously, your preferences may mean that you will actually love it.

However, for me the aesthetics of this lens mean that it rarely comes out of the camera bag, and I’d much rather grab my iPhone 13 Pro if I need the flexibility of this zoom lens (more on that at the end of this review).

What motivated me to buy the Panasonic 12-60mm f3.5-5.6 zoom lens?

I got this lens shortly after diving back into photography, after purchasing a new Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III body. I paired up my E-M5 Mark III with two prime lenses I knew I’d love using. First, the Panasonic 25mm f1.7 prime, which is a superb lens at an incredibly low price. Second, I just couldn’t go past the very fun Olympus 9mm f8 fisheye body-cap lens. But I thought I needed something more convenient to cover other shooting situations, to complement the other two lenses.

What don’t I like about the Panasonic 12-60mm f3.5-5.6 zoom lens?

I thought I’d use this zoom all the time. In fact it rarely finds its way onto my camera body. Quite simply, whenever I’ve gone out shooting with this zoom, I’ve always returned with a batch of disappointingly unimaginative results. But yet, that rarely happens for any of my other lenses. Why is that?

Well, partly it could be that the convenience of its zoom range – equivalent to a 24mm-120mm on a full-frame 35mm camera – charms me into over-reliance on zooming, rather than actually stopping for a moment to think about my composition and walking (or running) over to wherever I need to be to get the image I want?

Another factor, though, is that because I shoot almost exclusively either in fully manual mode – or else in aperture-priority or shutter-priority modes, depending on the context – the variable aperture of this lens just interferes too much with how I think about light when I’m shooting.

Finally, its mediocre light-gathering ability, together with the related lack of a shallow depth of focus and depth of field – which go hand-in-hand with its variable f3.5-5.6 aperture range – are both utter nails in the coffin for this lens.

Your mileage may vary.

Although I’m very critical of this lens, it’s worth emphasizing that much of what I’ve experienced is highly subjective.

For instance, my aesthetic preferences and shooting style were formed while growing up on a diet of 1970’s and 1980’s manual cameras and prime lenses. My original outfit was a Pentax MX and Pentax Super-A, teamed up with a Pentax f1.4 50mm prime, the f1.7mm 50mm prime on the Super-A, and a Ricoh Rikenon P 105mm F/2.8 Macro lens, as well as some cheaper wide angle lenses which were fun.

It’s therefore hardly surprising that I would again gravitate to the same kind of equipment with my new Olympus-body based outfit, as what I had with the Pentax outfit. Indeed, back then I also even owned a Pentax 35-70mm f3.5-5.6 zoom lens, and guess what? It too rarely found its way onto either of my camera bodies.

I hope that’s another useful indicator for you of whether you’ll enjoy using this lens or not.

From the many technical reviews I’ve read, this is by all accounts a very decent lens, and it is also very decently priced. Hence, I really mean it when I say that your mileage may vary. Although I hope you’ll find something useful in what I say above about my experiences of working with this lens, please keep in mind that these are simply my personal experiences. You may love this lens, but I really do not like it at all.

Concluding remarks.

If you’re considering buying this lens, and if you generally enjoy shooting with zoom lenses and don’t mind a variable aperture on your zoom, then unlike me you may enjoy working with the Panasonic Lumix G Vario 12-60mm F3.5-5.6 ASPH zoom lens.

Still, on an aesthetic level, this well-built, extremely convenient, and very well-priced lens leaves me utterly cold. Moreover, now that I’ve ordered some more glass – this time, it’s a manual focus Rokinon 85mm f1.4 prime – I suspect I’ll be hunt around for someone who wants to swap with me for a reasonable prime that I don’t yet have. Better that than it taking up space and adding weight to my bag, given that it almost never hangs around on my camera’s body or sees any light.

Here’s a parting thought, though, to emphasize that I really do stand by the above despite it all being very subjective.

On those occasions when I do want (or need) the convenience or flexibility of something more automatic – and especially if I know that the situation will be fast-changing and / or shall involve social interactions and other distractions so that I won’t have the time to reflect on how to get the images I want with my camera, then I’d sooner reach into my back pocket for the iPhone 13 Pro, than to start change lenses and slap this Panasonic zoom onto my Olympus body.

Apart from the advantages of computational photography, the iPhone 13 Pro comes with three separate built-in prime lenses, and each of them has its own sensor-shift optical image stabilisation. I can whip that out of my back pocket in no time, and start capturing many fleeting moments, all long before I would even have finished mounting the Panasonic zoom onto my camera’ body. Eventually, I’d want to slap a prime lens back on it anyway, so that’s why I wouldn’t recommend this lens to anyone. Indeed, I’d rather dispense with variable-aperture zoom lense alltogether.
I have always enjoyed the 12-60mm focal length range; wide enough for landscape but telephoto enough to get details or for portraits. The Olympus 12-60 f/2-4 was one of my favorite walk-about lenses. The Nikon 24-120 f/4 on my D750 was another fave combo, but because it was on a full frame camera the subject isolation was a good feature.

I never was interested in the Panasonic 12-60 f/3.5-5.6 because it's too slow. But I do like the Panasonic Leica 12-60 f/2.8-4.0; it's my standard lens on the GH5. I like the portability of the Panasonic 8-18 and 12-60 combination. I like the focal length overlap which reduces the need for lens swapping. But I wish they had made those lenses consistent at 67mm filter size.

If you don't like the variable aperture, then just set the aperture to the minimum aperture of f/4. That's what I frequently do, unless I'm shooting for more DOF.

At any rate, I highly recommend the f/2.8 version of the lens as brighter but lighter than the only other extended telephoto (the Olympus 12-100 f/4).
 
Nice review, thanks!
 
Rather than an extensive set of statements, I'll save any readers some time and simply say that I like this lens very much, and use it frequently with pleasing results. :-)
 
Rather than an extensive set of statements, I'll save any readers some time and simply say that I like this lens very much, and use it frequently with pleasing results. :-)
I find it a great one to pair with the E-M10 iv...

Peter
 
  • As a Prime guy, blames on the convenience of zoom lens has killed his creativity (really?),
  • A slow lens which limits the usage: of course, it is a trade off of size/weight + cost. We should aware of it before bought one. There are also the Lecia version, or the constant f/2.8 12-35 or 12-40 of shorter zoom range...
How about the AF speed, AF accuracy, sharpness, contrast, or even built etc technical performance of this lens? These indeed are the objective factors to determine the quality of a lenses. Personal feeling might be too biases...

I was started this hobby back in 60s when was manual everything. I was happy to see the improvement of zoom lenses over the years and now, zoom lenses can do outstanding job comparable to prime lenses. I now have a very practical collection of 4 lenses covering a wide coverage of focal length in my camera bag from ultra wide 14mm (eq AoV of FF) to 300mm long tele. I won't waste my camera bag spaces for any lens just because it is only FUN. My setup allows me to handle majority of my generally shootings, which indeed give me a right tool to support my creativity. Same as painting, it is always better to have all sort of brushes ready, isn't it? How to make max uses of a tool is upon the user. Limited option of lens just kills the shooting opportunities. This is of course just a personal opinion of a zoom guy 🤔.

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I fail to see the point of this post

Shooting a zoom lens hinders your creativity ? Really ?

The 12-60 is too slow ? You know what, whan you buy a lens, f/something is written on it ..unbelievable, I know ..

Only point worth considering is the "aesthetics" of the lens with which you're not satisfied ; it's just too bad you don't develop and tell us what exactly are the "aesthetic" shortcomings of this lens , maybe it's too personal and subjective ?

Personally I had the 12-60 f3.5 , which I found a very decent lens, buit eventually sold it in favour of the Leica f2.8-4 version : better "clarity" , better colours , and better "rendering" , although the package is heavier and bigger but hey, you can't have it all .
 
The 12 60 was a great lens. the 25 1.7 you bought, when they were released they were the worst prime ever made ,thats why they dropped the price to $99 aud they couldnt give them away.

Ds
 
The 12 60 was a great lens. the 25 1.7 you bought, when they were released they were the worst prime ever made ,thats why they dropped the price to $99 aud they couldnt give them away.

Ds
To be fair, not the worst, but it has very high sample variation making some unlucky owners had issue with this lens.

I suppose the following review should have tell the IQ of this lens:


Quoted:

"Sharpness
In a word: exceptional. ...sharp images straight out of the gate at ƒ/1.7, and while stopping down technically provides statistically sharper images, you'd have to peep pretty closely to see any kind of practical difference.
"

Unquote.

Or


Quoted:

"Sharpness ... the centre at f/1.7 is already very good, rising to excellent levels by f/4 and maintaining this through to f/8...

The edges maintain very good levels of sharpness from f/1.7 all the way through to f/11, ...

This is a very good level of performance overall, and images should be bright, sharp and attractive throughout the range...
"

Unquote.

What to complaint on such a low cost f/1.7 lens?
 
The 12 60 was a great lens. the 25 1.7 you bought, when they were released they were the worst prime ever made ,thats why they dropped the price to $99 aud they couldnt give them away.

Ds
To be fair, not the worst, but it has very high sample variation making some unlucky owners had issue with this lens.

I suppose the following review should have tell the IQ of this lens:

https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/panasonic/25mm-f1.7-asph-lumix-g/review/

Quoted:

"Sharpness
In a word: exceptional. ...sharp images straight out of the gate at ƒ/1.7, and while stopping down technically provides statistically sharper images, you'd have to peep pretty closely to see any kind of practical difference.
"

Unquote.

Or

https://www.ephotozine.com/article/panasonic-lumix-g-25mm-f-1-7-asph-lens-review-28432

Quoted:

"Sharpness ... the centre at f/1.7 is already very good, rising to excellent levels by f/4 and maintaining this through to f/8...

The edges maintain very good levels of sharpness from f/1.7 all the way through to f/11, ...

This is a very good level of performance overall, and images should be bright, sharp and attractive throughout the range...
"

Unquote.

What to complaint on such a low cost f/1.7 lens?
It also suffered from focus shift, people using constant preview would have found a sharp excellent value lens, people not using constant preview would have found an inconsistently just out of focus lens (if I remember correctly).
 
As a hobbyist, I picked up this lens a few years back. Since I received it, it has lived on my E-M10 mark ii. The range covers my use cases, and I haven’t yet hit a time when the variable aperture is a hindrance. If I need something faster, that’s what my 20mm f/1.7 prime is for.

I would recommend this lens.
 
This was an excellent honest review. You expressed discontent about the lens without criticizing the lens. But clearly you do not gel with this lens so I'm curious why you don't sell it and pursue another lens that might better suit you.

I'm not much of a zoomer. I have three: the 12-40 that I use as frequently as it rains (for obvious reasons), I rarely use my loathed but occasionally necessary 14-150 II, and my 14-42 Kit lens that rests in peace on my old unused PL5.
Personally, I’m completely underwhelmed by the creative limitations of what this lens’s convenient zoom range, coupled with its rather mediocre variable aperture, offers.

What follows is not an objective or a technical review, but more of a commentary about how I have experienced working with this lens. Please keep this in mind because, quite seriously, your preferences may mean that you will actually love it.

However, for me the aesthetics of this lens mean that it rarely comes out of the camera bag, and I’d much rather grab my iPhone 13 Pro if I need the flexibility of this zoom lens (more on that at the end of this review).

What motivated me to buy the Panasonic 12-60mm f3.5-5.6 zoom lens?

I got this lens shortly after diving back into photography, after purchasing a new Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III body. I paired up my E-M5 Mark III with two prime lenses I knew I’d love using. First, the Panasonic 25mm f1.7 prime, which is a superb lens at an incredibly low price. Second, I just couldn’t go past the very fun Olympus 9mm f8 fisheye body-cap lens. But I thought I needed something more convenient to cover other shooting situations, to complement the other two lenses.

What don’t I like about the Panasonic 12-60mm f3.5-5.6 zoom lens?

I thought I’d use this zoom all the time. In fact it rarely finds its way onto my camera body. Quite simply, whenever I’ve gone out shooting with this zoom, I’ve always returned with a batch of disappointingly unimaginative results. But yet, that rarely happens for any of my other lenses. Why is that?

Well, partly it could be that the convenience of its zoom range – equivalent to a 24mm-120mm on a full-frame 35mm camera – charms me into over-reliance on zooming, rather than actually stopping for a moment to think about my composition and walking (or running) over to wherever I need to be to get the image I want?

Another factor, though, is that because I shoot almost exclusively either in fully manual mode – or else in aperture-priority or shutter-priority modes, depending on the context – the variable aperture of this lens just interferes too much with how I think about light when I’m shooting.

Finally, its mediocre light-gathering ability, together with the related lack of a shallow depth of focus and depth of field – which go hand-in-hand with its variable f3.5-5.6 aperture range – are both utter nails in the coffin for this lens.

Your mileage may vary.

Although I’m very critical of this lens, it’s worth emphasizing that much of what I’ve experienced is highly subjective.

For instance, my aesthetic preferences and shooting style were formed while growing up on a diet of 1970’s and 1980’s manual cameras and prime lenses. My original outfit was a Pentax MX and Pentax Super-A, teamed up with a Pentax f1.4 50mm prime, the f1.7mm 50mm prime on the Super-A, and a Ricoh Rikenon P 105mm F/2.8 Macro lens, as well as some cheaper wide angle lenses which were fun.

It’s therefore hardly surprising that I would again gravitate to the same kind of equipment with my new Olympus-body based outfit, as what I had with the Pentax outfit. Indeed, back then I also even owned a Pentax 35-70mm f3.5-5.6 zoom lens, and guess what? It too rarely found its way onto either of my camera bodies.

I hope that’s another useful indicator for you of whether you’ll enjoy using this lens or not.

From the many technical reviews I’ve read, this is by all accounts a very decent lens, and it is also very decently priced. Hence, I really mean it when I say that your mileage may vary. Although I hope you’ll find something useful in what I say above about my experiences of working with this lens, please keep in mind that these are simply my personal experiences. You may love this lens, but I really do not like it at all.

Concluding remarks.

If you’re considering buying this lens, and if you generally enjoy shooting with zoom lenses and don’t mind a variable aperture on your zoom, then unlike me you may enjoy working with the Panasonic Lumix G Vario 12-60mm F3.5-5.6 ASPH zoom lens.

Still, on an aesthetic level, this well-built, extremely convenient, and very well-priced lens leaves me utterly cold. Moreover, now that I’ve ordered some more glass – this time, it’s a manual focus Rokinon 85mm f1.4 prime – I suspect I’ll be hunt around for someone who wants to swap with me for a reasonable prime that I don’t yet have. Better that than it taking up space and adding weight to my bag, given that it almost never hangs around on my camera’s body or sees any light.

Here’s a parting thought, though, to emphasize that I really do stand by the above despite it all being very subjective.

On those occasions when I do want (or need) the convenience or flexibility of something more automatic – and especially if I know that the situation will be fast-changing and / or shall involve social interactions and other distractions so that I won’t have the time to reflect on how to get the images I want with my camera, then I’d sooner reach into my back pocket for the iPhone 13 Pro, than to start change lenses and slap this Panasonic zoom onto my Olympus body.

Apart from the advantages of computational photography, the iPhone 13 Pro comes with three separate built-in prime lenses, and each of them has its own sensor-shift optical image stabilisation. I can whip that out of my back pocket in no time, and start capturing many fleeting moments, all long before I would even have finished mounting the Panasonic zoom onto my camera’ body. Eventually, I’d want to slap a prime lens back on it anyway, so that’s why I wouldn’t recommend this lens to anyone. Indeed, I’d rather dispense with variable-aperture zoom lense alltogether.
 
I bought the PL 12-60 version and it's my basic lens attached most of the time to my em1.2. It's pretty much the equal of the older 4/3 Oly 12-60 swd that I used constantly on my E3 & E5 cameras (and can use on the em1.2 via an adapter). Unlike you, zoom lenses are my preferred choice to pair with my camera.

As you note, the FL is convenient. The PL version also stays f3.5 or less throughout much of the range, so it's better than the mediocrity of the slower version. That said, it's not my favorite lens but it's still the one that sees the most use.
 
The 12 60 was a great lens. the 25 1.7 you bought, when they were released they were the worst prime ever made ,thats why they dropped the price to $99 aud they couldnt give them away.

Ds
Ha, I was going to say something about the 25 f1.7, too.

I had the PL 25mm f1.4 Great lens. Sold it when I changed systems, and I rarely used that focal length anyway. However when the 25 f1.7 was released, I had just picked up another M43 body, and for the Black Friday $99, I figured why not?

Well, let's just say that while the lens was plenty sharp, and had fast AF, it generated the ugliest, murkiest, looking images. I put it away, and took it out again a few months later, and, man, it was STILL ugly.

So I sold it.

I am quite sure my copy was not defective, as it was perfectly sharp, and had no decentering. It just did not render a pleasing output, to my eyes, anyway.

As to the 12-60mm f3.5-5.6? I have the 12-32mm f3.5-5.6 and the 12-35mm f2.8. I prefer both of the latter to the former, but if I didn't have either of those two shorter lenses, the 12-60mm would be very acceptable.

However, the OP may simply not get on with it that well, and in that case, they should probably just sell it and not worry about it. Lenses either float your boat or not in terms of output and usability, and this one clearly doesn't do it for them. It happens.

-J
 
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I can kind of see what he's saying.

I don't use my 12-32 at all and its a very nice lens

Just doesn't do anything for me.
 
If you think a 12-60/3.5-5.6 is bad, try the Olympus 12-50EZ, it's f3.5-6.3. I know when I go out with it that I will not be able to get shallow DOF and I will have to raise the ISO when I start losing light.

However, it covers the same range as my fast primes (12, 25, 45) and does near macro (0.36x...I have no other lens that gets that close) and it's the only weather sealed lens I have to put on my E-M5iii, so guess what...it gets used a lot. If I know in advance that lighting will be poor, then I bring the primes instead.

Coming from 35mm SLRs, when it comes to shallow DOF m43 lenses will always be disappointing...there is no way around the 2-stop advantage.
 
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