ursamajorRO
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You're wrong.
It's a massive crop from the edge of the frame. I choose it for the funny posture of the gull. Please, don't tell me that G9 is better for BIFs... Only for conformity:-
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G9 still worth it in 2022?
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It's a massive crop from the edge of the frame. I choose it for the funny posture of the gull. Please, don't tell me that G9 is better for BIFs... Only for conformity:
Interceptor121
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But yet if you don’t get the camera almost in focus to start it is a problem on small birds
but then for me small birds are not exciting so I still have the camera and works well for most of my use cases while I sold the olympus
drj3
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I haven't used the G9, but it appears to be an excellent camera. I don't know how it would perform with small birds, but I think the E-M1s would probably be better with things like flying swallows. For stationary ones, it would probably not matter very much.I have shot the EM1MKII and lens aside if your focus was small birds I personally would get an olympusNice photo. I think Interceptor was referring to its use with the 100-300mm instead of the 100-400. 300mm is a little short for small birds.
otherwise the G9 is all around a better camera
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The 100-300 is not a bad lens at all, but if I were to buy a long lens now, I'd skip the 100-300 and go for the 100-400 directly. Especially with a trip to Africa planned.
I would get a used body and a used PL100-400. Would cost you somewhere around 1500-1700 euros.
Yes, without a doubt. Seven months ago I bought a second G9. A tremendously capable camera for comparatively small money.
Harold66
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Ok but the fact remains that the image as shown is not very sharp. You just told me why that s allYou're wrong.
I am not . just telling that they both can produce good birds images with the right lens . and that Panasonic has more stabilised tele lenses than Olympus ;-)I choose it for the funny posture of the gull. Please, don't tell me that G9 is better for BIFs...
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novalaker
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I live in East Africa and primarily use a G9 and it's great. I don't do much bird photography but for wildlife and landscapes and people with the right lenses it's a beast. I mostly use the 14-140 ii to be honest, but just picked up the 100-300 and look forward to taking that out on safari or primate trekking soon. I love the size, weight, grip, weather resistance, battery life, and video quality is much improved since I first bought it. It's an absolute steal at its price if you ask me.
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Nice photo. I think Interceptor was referring to its use with the 100-300mm instead of the 100-400. 300mm is a little short for small birds.
Nice shot. I was waiting to see if the Panasonic does an G10. Otherwise I might go with the G9. Not many cameras have the nice ergonomics of the G9 at that price especially when on sale.
Trevor Carpenter
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I won't tell you that the G9 is better than the EM1-II for BIFS but I will tell you it's as good and I am happy to demonstrate and match anything you can show me. I will concede that the EM1-III with the 300mm has better IQ than my G9 & PL100-400 but I'm not prepared to sacrifice the zoomYou're wrong.
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Trevor Carpenter
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I concede that pre focusing helps but I have always put that down to being a mirrorless camera issue rather than a Panasonic issue. If I point my G9 at a bird in the sky there is a good chance, that because it has an EVF, there is a good chance that I can't find the bird because the EVF is unfocused. I have often wished for an OVF at times like this. This is not a problem with auto focus it is a case of finding the bird. Now maybe wrongly I have assumed that all cameras with an EVF will have exactly the same problem. Are you saying that with an EM1 or another mirrorless camera this problem doesn't exist. I don't understand how this can be because there will be a difficulty in finding a bird with any unfocused EVF.
cameron2
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I have both. Both great lenses. The only issue with the 300 is its lack of zooming
As for the bodies, give me a break. I'd take either one in a heartbeat. Some adjustments switching between Oly and Pany bodies (that Oly menu is near infinite). I shoot an EM5iii (it's an EM1ii in an EM5 body); really not a bad little camera at all.
If Pany came out with a GX8 like body with a tilty high speed OLED EVF as their G9 upgrade with PDAF, I'd be on it in 2 seconds.
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You set a focus limiter range the camera does not go all the way zero to infinity so it finds it much faster and if it does not you know you were not interested in that shot
It works better despite the lack of detection as it finds it quicker
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Stationary subject can be shot with any camera I don't consider that a special use case
I was referring to small birds in flight
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It's an excellent and incredibly feature-rich camera. Just prepare to manual focus if you want to use it for video.
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Not true
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Maybe you've had better luck than the rest of the photographic community, but I found it hunted too much for my tastes in C-AF. It was pretty easy to rectify though with manual focus and sufficient depth of field.
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itsallBb2me
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Still true for most cameras, I think, recent AF advances notwithstanding. What kills me is when the camera nails AF on frame 1 but then loses it 3 frames later…and regains it on frame 7. I still think it’s the “Defocus Moment” in DFD.
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Without luck there could be no BIF photography.
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Me too…I won't tell you that the G9 is better than the EM1-II for BIFS but I will tell you it's as good and I am happy to demonstrate and match anything you can show me.You're wrong.
Just 1 from today.
I will concede that the EM1-III with the 300mm has better IQ than my G9 & PL100-400 but I'm not prepared to sacrifice the zoom
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