Any modern digital cameras with the equivalent of a waist-level finder?

Sony did have a small articulated top screen in the R1, as illustrated by Ken Rockwell

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That is the only camera I know (apart from the Blads) that had one.
The secondary LCD on the top plate of the Samsung Pro 815 could also be used as a waist level finder, but given the size and resolution you'd need sharp eyesight (or a very high waist):

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Used to have a Rolleiflex TLR - taking pics from waist level is my all time favorite way to take pics.

Wondering if there's any modern equivalents. Like maybe an articulating screen that extends all the way on top of the camera.

I've tried with articulating screens that just flip up, and it is not quite the same. The handling is awkward.
How about the following tilteable evf design of Panasonic M43?

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It was first introduced on GX7, then GX8 and the latest on GX9.

I love to tilte up the evf for low angle shooting slot.

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That is still (pretty much) an Eye Level finder.

You cannot compose a photo at waist level with that. Like this :



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Thank you.

I am familiar with Samsung film and digital cameras but I don't remember having seen one of those.

At the same time the model Number 815 seems familiar .
 
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It will depend on how low I can bow. Normally my camera can be shoot around or slightly below my chest level...

It is also very helpful under bright outdoor, and keep the concentration as using viewfinder.
 
Maybe. Define modern and equivalent.
Heh. If "modern" means 2015 and "equivalent" means ½ then the Rolleiflex MiniDigi. You can still find them on ebay. Why accept substitutes and hacks?
Yep, the definitions matter. I was thinking of the Sony R1, the 10MP wonder from 2005.

Just look at that LCD rotated up for full time waist-level viewing:

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Why is it awkward? Because it adds to the depth of the camera? The old TLR's are also the same - basically thick rectangles.
It is awkward because as you're walking along with the display in WLF orientation, the flipped up display will get knocked out of position and/or close as the camera bounces against your waist.
As a screen only user I avoid that bumping by always using a wrist strap so the camera is carried differently, or more likely put back in the bag if I see no photo opportunities near.

From the bag of course I need to thumb out the screen to the nice tilt angle but that takes little time and effort and happens while the camera does its possibly 2 second boot up.
 
two things wrong with this, though.

1) walking around with the screen tilted up wacks against your abdomen and the screen will close after some steps

2) WLF like on a TLR sit much higher and are closer to your eye than a tilted up screen
 
that's a different shooting experience, though. Note how close a TLR sits to your body, it is almost a part of you.

where as with a display tilted up the camera sticks out far.

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Used to have a Rolleiflex TLR - taking pics from waist level is my all time favorite way to take pics.


You can get a camera with a side flip screen and this will get you vertical and see what you are shooting. very common for a camera model these days.

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and you have this model that will do a back flip

the screen does not interfere with the holding of said cam

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Wondering if there's any modern equivalents. Like maybe an articulating screen that extends all the way on top of the camera.
This may not happen due to engineering constraints, getting rid of top flash imputs are not so popular.
I've tried with articulating screens that just flip up, and it is not quite the same. The handling is awkward.
You other solution is to rig a tethered camera to a viewing screen, where you can place that on top of your rig.

Good luck finding something for you.
 
It will depend on how low I can bow. Normally my camera can be shoot around or slightly below my chest level...

It is also very helpful under bright outdoor, and keep the concentration as using viewfinder.
This may illustrate some points made in the discussion -

The main problem without a display hood - it is sometimes impossible to keep reflections off the LCD.
The main problem without a display hood - it is sometimes impossible to keep reflections off the LCD.

I cheated, I chose a shaded place for this demo.

Here is the photo I actually took -

There is wind movement on this.
There is wind movement on this.

Henry

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I suppose you know the GXs, except GX8 which has a FAS LCD, also has tilt LCD as your EM10s...

Indeed, older EPLs or Pens of Olympus has optional add on evf (VF4 being the latest?) are also tilt-able. Had you ever tried them? :-)
 
I suppose you know the GXs, except GX8 which has a FAS LCD, also has tilt LCD as your EM10s...

Indeed, older EPLs or Pens of Olympus has optional add on evf (VF4 being the latest?) are also tilt-able. Had you ever tried them? :-)
My first m4/3 is the E-M10 II, the second one is the E-M10 IV.

I came from pocket zooms, when I was offered the E-M10 II at the price of a new SH-2, when mine had become unrepairable, and the model was no longer available.

Back to the topic, have seen snap-on hoods for LCDs from 3rd party suppliers, but not recently.

Henry
 
I suppose you know the GXs, except GX8 which has a FAS LCD, also has tilt LCD as your EM10s...

Indeed, older EPLs or Pens of Olympus has optional add on evf (VF4 being the latest?) are also tilt-able. Had you ever tried them? :-)
My first m4/3 is the E-M10 II, the second one is the E-M10 IV.

I came from pocket zooms, when I was offered the E-M10 II at the price of a new SH-2, when mine had become unrepairable, and the model was no longer available.

Back to the topic, have seen snap-on hoods for LCDs from 3rd party suppliers, but not recently.
When I shoot with M43 system, I prefer the simplest set up for the smallest possible size and weight. Optional accessories will destroy my purpose to use the format. YMMV.
Understand.

Because of my big belly complaints if I knee down on the ground to shoot (I shall struggle to raise myself up :-( ), and I love low angle shooting, I found the immediate beauty of my first tilt evf: an add on LVF2 on GX1.

The integrated evf of GX7 just made me happier. Missed it a lot when GX85 uses a fixed evf and the tilt-able evf can't fit into the dslr form factor G85 (similar to your EM10/5/1?).

Comparing to a tilt LCD, I can see clearly under all sort of lighting condition and also to concentrate on the evf...

If you would shoot low angle a lot, try one and might be you can find it is special.
 
Used to have a Rolleiflex TLR - taking pics from waist level is my all time favorite way to take pics.
You can get a camera with a side flip screen and this will get you vertical and see what you are shooting. very common for a camera model these days.

91859049e187486987c1ad053eac31f1.jpg

and you have this model that will do a back flip

the screen does not interfere with the holding of said cam

416e805686e7443ab1e3444b288a2959.jpg
Wondering if there's any modern equivalents. Like maybe an articulating screen that extends all the way on top of the camera.
This may not happen due to engineering constraints, getting rid of top flash imputs are not so popular.
I've tried with articulating screens that just flip up, and it is not quite the same. The handling is awkward.
You other solution is to rig a tethered camera to a viewing screen, where you can place that on top of your rig.

Good luck finding something for you.
When was the last twin lens reflex camera for the mass market made and commonly available to buy new? Must be around 70 years ago?

Those are the choices. The biggest issue is not the practicality of the choices but probably the willingness to adapt from the old camera to a modern one. The ‘culture shock’ maybe?
 
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I used to have a TLR - a Yashicamat, not a Rollei, and I never really got on with the waist-level finder because it reversed the image laterally. I find the tilt screen on a modern digital mirrorless much more user-friendly.
 
Any camera with a flip out screen would let you put it on waist level and look down. You may have to deal with light affecting clarity issue.

Exception is that the image left and right are not reversed like in the TLR.
 
I used to have a TLR - a Yashicamat, not a Rollei, and I never really got on with the waist-level finder because it reversed the image laterally. I find the tilt screen on a modern digital mirrorless much more user-friendly.
Ditto with a Bronica ETRs SLR 6x4.5, up front I bought the $$ prism viewfinder so things were right way 'round. Used that from 1983 to about 1993. Prior to that I used an old KowaSix SLR 6x6 and the combination of reversed image plus that huge clanking blackout mirror made it "interesting" to use.

When digital came for me (2002 onwards) I was glad to adapt to using screens and forget about any EVF availability.

So tilt screen and camera held usually maybe mid-chest down to waist level works for me.
 
Any camera with a flip out screen would let you put it on waist level and look down. You may have to deal with light affecting clarity issue.

Exception is that the image left and right are not reversed like in the TLR.
The smartphone has reverted to reversed images.

Use the selfie camera and the image is reversed like a mirror and by default the resulting shot is also reversed. How many posted pictures of people do you see with the text on their t-shirts reversed? Can be changed in settings though.

Wash my mouth out now, never will use the smartphone word again.
 

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