Dell UP2716D vs U2713H

Pictus said:

Flycoop said:

Thanks Pictus. That sounds like great advice.

Unfortunately I have more questions.

Should I also be considering the NEC PA242W? It seems to get good reviews.

How about the Eizo CS270? The Eizo CS270 is now almost the same price as the CS240. (Does that suggest problems with the CS270?)

The CS270 has a "2.5 K" resolution ( 17" screen) - would images appear to be sharper than on the CS240?

Thanks again for your help.

Coop

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Glad to help,
Should consider everything ...
No problem with the Eizo CS270, it is the best of the bunch.

The CS270 have more resolution and higher PPI than CS240, the
photos will look better in the Cs270.

Reviews for the NEC/ Eizo
http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2013/test-nec-pa242w-bk.html
http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2015/test-eizo-cs270.html

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Flycoop said:

Now that I can read these reviews, they are very helpful. I seem to be warming up to the CS270 in spite of the IPS glow issues.

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Flycoop said:

Will an Intel i7 6700 CPU with a GeForce GT 720 1GB DP video card & 16 GB RAM be enough to run the CS270? (The power supply is described as 85% 250 W adapter - whatever that means.)

Thanks.

Coop

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Pictus said:

Flycoop said:

Now that I can read these reviews, they are very helpful. I seem to be warming up to the CS270 in spite of the IPS glow issues.

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This IPS glow thing is a over-hyped as "99,9%" of all IPS do have, some a bit more
others a bit less...
The big difference is with the other "0,1%" with an A-TW(Advanced True White) polarizer
like the new Eizos CG/CX.

Pictus said:

Will an Intel i7 6700 CPU with a GeForce GT 720 1GB DP video card & 16 GB RAM be enough to run the CS270? (The power supply is described as 85% 250 W adapter - whatever that means.)

Thanks.

Coop

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You are welcome, I have no doubt that the CS270 is the best choice and will work well with your PC.

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Pictus said:

Flycoop said:

Now that I can read these reviews, they are very helpful. I seem to be warming up to the CS270 in spite of the IPS glow issues.

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This IPS glow thing is a over-hyped as "99,9%" of all IPS do have, some a bit more
others a bit less...
The big difference is with the other "0,1%" with an A-TW(Advanced True White) polarizer
like the new Eizos CG/CX.

Pictus said:

Will an Intel i7 6700 CPU with a GeForce GT 720 1GB DP video card & 16 GB RAM be enough to run the CS270? (The power supply is described as 85% 250 W adapter - whatever that means.)

Thanks.

Coop

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You are welcome, I have no doubt that the CS270 is the best choice and will work well with your PC.

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Flycoop said:

I would like to set individual calibrations to each of the CAL1, CAL2 and CAL3 modes using ColorNavigator - but I can't for the life of me figure this out. (I'm using i1Display Pro.)

It seems to always want to set calibration to CAL3.

I'm missing something here. I've pored over the manuals & FAQs for hours with little success.

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Pictus said:

Flycoop said:

I would like to set individual calibrations to each of the CAL1, CAL2 and CAL3 modes using ColorNavigator - but I can't for the life of me figure this out. (I'm using i1Display Pro.)

It seems to always want to set calibration to CAL3.

I'm missing something here. I've pored over the manuals & FAQs for hours with little success.

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Sorry, I do not know.
Ask Simon Garrett, he has an Eizo CS240.

BTW, what do you think about the monitor?

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Flycoop said:

Thanks.

Actually, I think I just figured out the answer to the above question.

I think the CS270 is great. I'm in the process of playing with it.

I've done some calibration & the delta E values seem to be very good.

However I have a question about delta Es for the color black.

My delta Es are much higher for black (above 1.00 but below 2.00 - closer to 2.00) than the other colors (all below 1.00 - most significantly below). The deltas Es for black are about 2 to 5 times as high as the other colors.

I really can't find any info about this except that the max perceptible delta Es vary by color and especially saturation (differences in highly saturated colors seem to be less perceptible than less saturated colors as I understand it). I guess black would be a highly saturated color.

I'm wondering however if this is a problem.

Also, I wonder if high delta Es for black might be somehow related to IPS glow.

(I've got noticeable IPS glow on black screens - even in normal, daylight lighting conditions - but I don't really think this will be a problem because it is mainly in the lower corners. It's not noticeable except on black screens. I don't notice it in photos in Lightroom except ever so slightly in photos with black borders.)

Any ideas about this?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Coop

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Pictus said:

Flycoop said:

Thanks.

Actually, I think I just figured out the answer to the above question.

I think the CS270 is great. I'm in the process of playing with it.

I've done some calibration & the delta E values seem to be very good.

However I have a question about delta Es for the color black.

My delta Es are much higher for black (above 1.00 but below 2.00 - closer to 2.00) than the other colors (all below 1.00 - most significantly below). The deltas Es for black are about 2 to 5 times as high as the other colors.

I really can't find any info about this except that the max perceptible delta Es vary by color and especially saturation (differences in highly saturated colors seem to be less perceptible than less saturated colors as I understand it). I guess black would be a highly saturated color.

I'm wondering however if this is a problem.

Also, I wonder if high delta Es for black might be somehow related to IPS glow.

(I've got noticeable IPS glow on black screens - even in normal, daylight lighting conditions - but I don't really think this will be a problem because it is mainly in the lower corners. It's not noticeable except on black screens. I don't notice it in photos in Lightroom except ever so slightly in photos with black borders.)

Any ideas about this?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Coop

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Glad to help, in Prad.de after the calibration(140 cd/m²) the biggest value was 0.6 for blacks, I guess it is some setting in Color Navigator...

Make sure you are using the updated version 6.4.14, recheck the settings
and experiment with Gamut Clipping and Priority(page 40/43 of the manual).

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Pictus said:

Flycoop said:

Thanks.

Actually, I think I just figured out the answer to the above question.

I think the CS270 is great. I'm in the process of playing with it.

I've done some calibration & the delta E values seem to be very good.

However I have a question about delta Es for the color black.

My delta Es are much higher for black (above 1.00 but below 2.00 - closer to 2.00) than the other colors (all below 1.00 - most significantly below). The deltas Es for black are about 2 to 5 times as high as the other colors.

I really can't find any info about this except that the max perceptible delta Es vary by color and especially saturation (differences in highly saturated colors seem to be less perceptible than less saturated colors as I understand it). I guess black would be a highly saturated color.

I'm wondering however if this is a problem.

Also, I wonder if high delta Es for black might be somehow related to IPS glow.

(I've got noticeable IPS glow on black screens - even in normal, daylight lighting conditions - but I don't really think this will be a problem because it is mainly in the lower corners. It's not noticeable except on black screens. I don't notice it in photos in Lightroom except ever so slightly in photos with black borders.)

Any ideas about this?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Coop

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Glad to help, in Prad.de after the calibration(140 cd/m²) the biggest value was 0.6 for blacks, I guess it is some setting in Color Navigator...

Make sure you are using the updated version 6.4.14, recheck the settings
and experiment with Gamut Clipping and Priority(page 40/43 of the manual).

Click to expand...