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I have heard that Fuji (might) come out with computational photography along with the X-H2. What exactly does that mean? Is that a hardware thing or software, or both? I honestly haven't really been paying too much attention to this subject, but what does computational photography have to do with Fujifilm.

Are they the only ones that will have that technology? Does it mean that I can do that with my old rinky dinky XT1 or will it involve having to buy the latest and greatest Fujifilm camera? What about other camera brands? Can someone explain this in an easier language to get a better idea?

Thank you :-)
 
kamerakiri wrote

X-T200 does exposure stacking for video to give HDR video. No X camera has that. Of course, it does not make sense for X-T3/4 since they have F-log, which one can use to recover even more details in post processing.

Also, X-T200 has gyro sensor stabilization like Sony A7C. It gives much better performance for digital IS. Again, no X-camera has this.

X-T200 also has a neat film simulation/art filter preview interface.

It has portrait enhancer, bright mode, and some unique Advanced Filters which no X camera has:

[FISH-EYE]

[DYNAMIC TONE]

[HDR ART]

[CROSS SCREEN]

[RICH & FINE]

[MONOCHROME(NIR)]

[FOG REMOVE]

You may argue about the usefulness of these features(I think any extra feature is good to have).

But it can't be denied that X-T200 remains the most advanced computational photography camera by Fujifilm to date. Fuji does crazy stuff at times. It will be great if they release new "fun" Bayer camera with even more computational photography stuff.
Good point
 
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I've seen a rumour from an impeccable source that the H2 will come with the option to add pretty pink picture frames to your images AND will be able to add cat ears or antlers to portraits. Or even spectacles to your cat. Oh, and trout pout, wouldn't want to miss that.

You can trust me, I used to work for the government.
 
I know I'm being a bit of a wet blanket when I say that we shouldn't get any hopes up for something revolutionary from Fuji in the area of CP. Unless they've recently hired some disgruntled Apple employees, their track record in this area of photography is unremarkable; there's no real evidence of a significant investment in in-camera processing, other than their (remarkable!) color science. I've said it many times, but there are more in-camera features in their lower-end Bayer cameras (made by a third party, hmmm ) than in any X-Trans camera. The X-T200 is the pinnacle of "Fuji's" computational photography cameras thus far. At this stage, I'm actually more interested to see "Fuji's" next Bayer cam, to be honest.
The flagship cameras feature CP in the form of HDR Raw exposure stacking. What CP does the XT200 feature?
X-T200 does exposure stacking for video to give HDR video. No X camera has that. Of course, it does not make sense for X-T3/4 since they have F-log, which one can use to recover even more details in post processing.

Also, X-T200 has gyro sensor stabilization like Sony A7C. It gives much better performance for digital IS. Again, no X-camera has this.

X-T200 also has a neat film simulation/art filter preview interface.

It has portrait enhancer, bright mode, and some unique Advanced Filters which no X camera has:

[FISH-EYE]

[DYNAMIC TONE]

[HDR ART]

[CROSS SCREEN]

[RICH & FINE]

[MONOCHROME(NIR)]

[FOG REMOVE]

You may argue about the usefulness of these features(I think any extra feature is good to have).

But it can't be denied that X-T200 remains the most advanced computational photography camera by Fujifilm to date. Fuji does crazy stuff at times. It will be great if they release new "fun" Bayer camera with even more computational photography stuff.
The EIS for video in the XT200, which isn't available with photos and significantly crops the footage. That being said, I would have liked to have EIS for photos and videos in my X100V.

The HDR video is cool and its only downside is that both it and the EIS are only available at 1080P/30fps and lower. One reason why the higher end cameras dont have HDR video is that they capture Rawer f-log video and can recover the highlights that you can't with the XT200; its like using the the Dynamic Range JPG settings vs just processing a Raw photo.

Those filters aren't CP in the same way that film simulations and the advanced filters like Toy Camera we saw in the XPro1 aren't considered CP. So while the XT200 has some nice JPG style features it doesnt have the most advanced CP features. Similarly, I dont consider multiple exposure photos on my X100V to be CP. But how the cameras rank really depends on what you consider to be CP vs just a JPG effect.

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I know I'm being a bit of a wet blanket when I say that we shouldn't get any hopes up for something revolutionary from Fuji in the area of CP. Unless they've recently hired some disgruntled Apple employees, their track record in this area of photography is unremarkable; there's no real evidence of a significant investment in in-camera processing, other than their (remarkable!) color science. I've said it many times, but there are more in-camera features in their lower-end Bayer cameras (made by a third party, hmmm ) than in any X-Trans camera. The X-T200 is the pinnacle of "Fuji's" computational photography cameras thus far. At this stage, I'm actually more interested to see "Fuji's" next Bayer cam, to be honest.
The flagship cameras feature CP in the form of HDR Raw exposure stacking. What CP does the XT200 feature?
X-T200 does exposure stacking for video to give HDR video. No X camera has that. Of course, it does not make sense for X-T3/4 since they have F-log, which one can use to recover even more details in post processing.

Also, X-T200 has gyro sensor stabilization like Sony A7C. It gives much better performance for digital IS. Again, no X-camera has this.

X-T200 also has a neat film simulation/art filter preview interface.

It has portrait enhancer, bright mode, and some unique Advanced Filters which no X camera has:

[FISH-EYE]

[DYNAMIC TONE]

[HDR ART]

[CROSS SCREEN]

[RICH & FINE]

[MONOCHROME(NIR)]

[FOG REMOVE]

You may argue about the usefulness of these features(I think any extra feature is good to have).

But it can't be denied that X-T200 remains the most advanced computational photography camera by Fujifilm to date. Fuji does crazy stuff at times. It will be great if they release new "fun" Bayer camera with even more computational photography stuff.
Thanks for the list here Kamerakiri, I was going to reply with similar, but I'll add two other cp features: Light trails and in-camera time-lapse video. Perhaps these don't fall strictly under the cp umbrella, but they certainly involve real-time in-camera image processing, not available on X-trans cameras.

Light Trails mode: similar (or identical) to Olympus' Live Time/Bulb, where the shutter can be set to stay open for a certain amount of time, or can be activated on or off manually, while the photographer watches the image "build" in real time on the LCD. The shutter can be closed once the shooter is satisfied with the image.

Time Lapse video: the camera can process and render finished 4k/30p time lapse videos in-camera from interval shooting, while keeping the individual image files separate, in case the photographer wants to use them in pp later. The X-T100 also had this feature (the X-T200's regular video features were much more improved over the X-T100 though).

This TL feature is also available on some Nikon, Panasonic and Olympus cameras, and I believe on some Canons as well. Not sure about Sony, they used to have an extra app one had to purchase in order to shoot by intervals and create in-camera TL videos. The Nikon Z5 was the first Nikon camera to offer the same TL feature set as the previously-released X-T200, though with some more flexible settings. The impressive thing about Nikon's implementation was that the finished TL video was being rendered while the camera was shooting the still images in the interval timer, not after the intervals were finished. If one stopped the interval timer the TL video up to that point was ready to watch immediately. One can deduce that a lot of processing power is going on under the hood.

In any case, I think it's correct to say that the X-T200 (made by the Xacti Corporation, as stated here by FR) had/has some CP and in-camera processing features not yet available on any X-Trans camera. To be clear, I am not bashing Fuji at all, as I love my Fuji gear 9I'll never sell my X-H1!), and returned to it after several months dabbling in the Z system. However, I think when we look objectively at Fuji's efforts in CP thus far, the company proper has a significant leap to make if they are going to meet or surpass the other brands.
 
I know I'm being a bit of a wet blanket when I say that we shouldn't get any hopes up for something revolutionary from Fuji in the area of CP. Unless they've recently hired some disgruntled Apple employees, their track record in this area of photography is unremarkable; there's no real evidence of a significant investment in in-camera processing, other than their (remarkable!) color science. I've said it many times, but there are more in-camera features in their lower-end Bayer cameras (made by a third party, hmmm ) than in any X-Trans camera. The X-T200 is the pinnacle of "Fuji's" computational photography cameras thus far. At this stage, I'm actually more interested to see "Fuji's" next Bayer cam, to be honest.
The flagship cameras feature CP in the form of HDR Raw exposure stacking. What CP does the XT200 feature?
X-T200 does exposure stacking for video to give HDR video. No X camera has that. Of course, it does not make sense for X-T3/4 since they have F-log, which one can use to recover even more details in post processing.

Also, X-T200 has gyro sensor stabilization like Sony A7C. It gives much better performance for digital IS. Again, no X-camera has this.

X-T200 also has a neat film simulation/art filter preview interface.

It has portrait enhancer, bright mode, and some unique Advanced Filters which no X camera has:

[FISH-EYE]

[DYNAMIC TONE]

[HDR ART]

[CROSS SCREEN]

[RICH & FINE]

[MONOCHROME(NIR)]

[FOG REMOVE]

You may argue about the usefulness of these features(I think any extra feature is good to have).

But it can't be denied that X-T200 remains the most advanced computational photography camera by Fujifilm to date. Fuji does crazy stuff at times. It will be great if they release new "fun" Bayer camera with even more computational photography stuff.
The EIS for video in the XT200, which isn't available with photos and significantly crops the footage. That being said, I would have liked to have EIS for photos and videos in my X100V.

The HDR video is cool and its only downside is that both it and the EIS are only available at 1080P/30fps and lower. One reason why the higher end cameras dont have HDR video is that they capture Rawer f-log video and can recover the highlights that you can't with the XT200; its like using the the Dynamic Range JPG settings vs just processing a Raw photo.

Those filters aren't CP in the same way that film simulations and the advanced filters like Toy Camera we saw in the XPro1 aren't considered CP. So while the XT200 has some nice JPG style features it doesnt have the most advanced CP features.

So its funny that the XT200 has the most video CP but not the most photo CP.
 
I know I'm being a bit of a wet blanket when I say that we shouldn't get any hopes up for something revolutionary from Fuji in the area of CP. Unless they've recently hired some disgruntled Apple employees, their track record in this area of photography is unremarkable; there's no real evidence of a significant investment in in-camera processing, other than their (remarkable!) color science. I've said it many times, but there are more in-camera features in their lower-end Bayer cameras (made by a third party, hmmm ) than in any X-Trans camera. The X-T200 is the pinnacle of "Fuji's" computational photography cameras thus far. At this stage, I'm actually more interested to see "Fuji's" next Bayer cam, to be honest.
The flagship cameras feature CP in the form of HDR Raw exposure stacking. What CP does the XT200 feature?
X-T200 does exposure stacking for video to give HDR video. No X camera has that. Of course, it does not make sense for X-T3/4 since they have F-log, which one can use to recover even more details in post processing.

Also, X-T200 has gyro sensor stabilization like Sony A7C. It gives much better performance for digital IS. Again, no X-camera has this.

X-T200 also has a neat film simulation/art filter preview interface.

It has portrait enhancer, bright mode, and some unique Advanced Filters which no X camera has:

[FISH-EYE]

[DYNAMIC TONE]

[HDR ART]

[CROSS SCREEN]

[RICH & FINE]

[MONOCHROME(NIR)]

[FOG REMOVE]

You may argue about the usefulness of these features(I think any extra feature is good to have).

But it can't be denied that X-T200 remains the most advanced computational photography camera by Fujifilm to date. Fuji does crazy stuff at times. It will be great if they release new "fun" Bayer camera with even more computational photography stuff.
Thanks for the list here Kamerakiri, I was going to reply with similar, but I'll add two other cp features: Light trails and in-camera time-lapse video. Perhaps these don't fall strictly under the cp umbrella, but they certainly involve real-time in-camera image processing, not available on X-trans cameras.

Light Trails mode: similar (or identical) to Olympus' Live Time/Bulb, where the shutter can be set to stay open for a certain amount of time, or can be activated on or off manually, while the photographer watches the image "build" in real time on the LCD. The shutter can be closed once the shooter is satisfied with the image.

Time Lapse video: the camera can process and render finished 4k/30p time lapse videos in-camera from interval shooting, while keeping the individual image files separate, in case the photographer wants to use them in pp later. The X-T100 also had this feature (the X-T200's regular video features were much more improved over the X-T100 though).

This TL feature is also available on some Nikon, Panasonic and Olympus cameras, and I believe on some Canons as well. Not sure about Sony, they used to have an extra app one had to purchase in order to shoot by intervals and create in-camera TL videos. The Nikon Z5 was the first Nikon camera to offer the same TL feature set as the previously-released X-T200, though with some more flexible settings. The impressive thing about Nikon's implementation was that the finished TL video was being rendered while the camera was shooting the still images in the interval timer, not after the intervals were finished. If one stopped the interval timer the TL video up to that point was ready to watch immediately. One can deduce that a lot of processing power is going on under the hood.

In any case, I think it's correct to say that the X-T200 (made by the Xacti Corporation, as stated here by FR) had/has some CP and in-camera processing features not yet available on any X-Trans camera. To be clear, I am not bashing Fuji at all, as I love my Fuji gear 9I'll never sell my X-H1!), and returned to it after several months dabbling in the Z system. However, I think when we look objectively at Fuji's efforts in CP thus far, the company proper has a significant leap to make if they are going to meet or surpass the other brands.
I personally think that the different live long exposure features are cool and very useful. I would really like them on my Fuji. In camera time-lapse videos would also be nice to have.
 
I know I'm being a bit of a wet blanket when I say that we shouldn't get any hopes up for something revolutionary from Fuji in the area of CP. Unless they've recently hired some disgruntled Apple employees, their track record in this area of photography is unremarkable; there's no real evidence of a significant investment in in-camera processing, other than their (remarkable!) color science. I've said it many times, but there are more in-camera features in their lower-end Bayer cameras (made by a third party, hmmm ) than in any X-Trans camera. The X-T200 is the pinnacle of "Fuji's" computational photography cameras thus far. At this stage, I'm actually more interested to see "Fuji's" next Bayer cam, to be honest.
The flagship cameras feature CP in the form of HDR Raw exposure stacking. What CP does the XT200 feature?
X-T200 does exposure stacking for video to give HDR video. No X camera has that. Of course, it does not make sense for X-T3/4 since they have F-log, which one can use to recover even more details in post processing.

Also, X-T200 has gyro sensor stabilization like Sony A7C. It gives much better performance for digital IS. Again, no X-camera has this.

X-T200 also has a neat film simulation/art filter preview interface.

It has portrait enhancer, bright mode, and some unique Advanced Filters which no X camera has:

[FISH-EYE]

[DYNAMIC TONE]

[HDR ART]

[CROSS SCREEN]

[RICH & FINE]

[MONOCHROME(NIR)]

[FOG REMOVE]

You may argue about the usefulness of these features(I think any extra feature is good to have).

But it can't be denied that X-T200 remains the most advanced computational photography camera by Fujifilm to date. Fuji does crazy stuff at times. It will be great if they release new "fun" Bayer camera with even more computational photography stuff.
Thanks for the list here Kamerakiri, I was going to reply with similar, but I'll add two other cp features: Light trails and in-camera time-lapse video. Perhaps these don't fall strictly under the cp umbrella, but they certainly involve real-time in-camera image processing, not available on X-trans cameras.

Light Trails mode: similar (or identical) to Olympus' Live Time/Bulb, where the shutter can be set to stay open for a certain amount of time, or can be activated on or off manually, while the photographer watches the image "build" in real time on the LCD. The shutter can be closed once the shooter is satisfied with the image.

Time Lapse video: the camera can process and render finished 4k/30p time lapse videos in-camera from interval shooting, while keeping the individual image files separate, in case the photographer wants to use them in pp later. The X-T100 also had this feature (the X-T200's regular video features were much more improved over the X-T100 though).

This TL feature is also available on some Nikon, Panasonic and Olympus cameras, and I believe on some Canons as well. Not sure about Sony, they used to have an extra app one had to purchase in order to shoot by intervals and create in-camera TL videos. The Nikon Z5 was the first Nikon camera to offer the same TL feature set as the previously-released X-T200, though with some more flexible settings. The impressive thing about Nikon's implementation was that the finished TL video was being rendered while the camera was shooting the still images in the interval timer, not after the intervals were finished. If one stopped the interval timer the TL video up to that point was ready to watch immediately. One can deduce that a lot of processing power is going on under the hood.

In any case, I think it's correct to say that the X-T200 (made by the Xacti Corporation, as stated here by FR) had/has some CP and in-camera processing features not yet available on any X-Trans camera. To be clear, I am not bashing Fuji at all, as I love my Fuji gear 9I'll never sell my X-H1!), and returned to it after several months dabbling in the Z system. However, I think when we look objectively at Fuji's efforts in CP thus far, the company proper has a significant leap to make if they are going to meet or surpass the other brands.
 
I know I'm being a bit of a wet blanket when I say that we shouldn't get any hopes up for something revolutionary from Fuji in the area of CP. Unless they've recently hired some disgruntled Apple employees, their track record in this area of photography is unremarkable; there's no real evidence of a significant investment in in-camera processing, other than their (remarkable!) color science. I've said it many times, but there are more in-camera features in their lower-end Bayer cameras (made by a third party, hmmm ) than in any X-Trans camera. The X-T200 is the pinnacle of "Fuji's" computational photography cameras thus far. At this stage, I'm actually more interested to see "Fuji's" next Bayer cam, to be honest.
The flagship cameras feature CP in the form of HDR Raw exposure stacking. What CP does the XT200 feature?
X-T200 does exposure stacking for video to give HDR video. No X camera has that. Of course, it does not make sense for X-T3/4 since they have F-log, which one can use to recover even more details in post processing.

Also, X-T200 has gyro sensor stabilization like Sony A7C. It gives much better performance for digital IS. Again, no X-camera has this.

X-T200 also has a neat film simulation/art filter preview interface.

It has portrait enhancer, bright mode, and some unique Advanced Filters which no X camera has:

[FISH-EYE]

[DYNAMIC TONE]

[HDR ART]

[CROSS SCREEN]

[RICH & FINE]

[MONOCHROME(NIR)]

[FOG REMOVE]

You may argue about the usefulness of these features(I think any extra feature is good to have).

But it can't be denied that X-T200 remains the most advanced computational photography camera by Fujifilm to date. Fuji does crazy stuff at times. It will be great if they release new "fun" Bayer camera with even more computational photography stuff.
Thanks for the list here Kamerakiri, I was going to reply with similar, but I'll add two other cp features: Light trails and in-camera time-lapse video. Perhaps these don't fall strictly under the cp umbrella, but they certainly involve real-time in-camera image processing, not available on X-trans cameras.

Light Trails mode: similar (or identical) to Olympus' Live Time/Bulb, where the shutter can be set to stay open for a certain amount of time, or can be activated on or off manually, while the photographer watches the image "build" in real time on the LCD. The shutter can be closed once the shooter is satisfied with the image.

Time Lapse video: the camera can process and render finished 4k/30p time lapse videos in-camera from interval shooting, while keeping the individual image files separate, in case the photographer wants to use them in pp later. The X-T100 also had this feature (the X-T200's regular video features were much more improved over the X-T100 though).

This TL feature is also available on some Nikon, Panasonic and Olympus cameras, and I believe on some Canons as well. Not sure about Sony, they used to have an extra app one had to purchase in order to shoot by intervals and create in-camera TL videos. The Nikon Z5 was the first Nikon camera to offer the same TL feature set as the previously-released X-T200, though with some more flexible settings. The impressive thing about Nikon's implementation was that the finished TL video was being rendered while the camera was shooting the still images in the interval timer, not after the intervals were finished. If one stopped the interval timer the TL video up to that point was ready to watch immediately. One can deduce that a lot of processing power is going on under the hood.

In any case, I think it's correct to say that the X-T200 (made by the Xacti Corporation, as stated here by FR) had/has some CP and in-camera processing features not yet available on any X-Trans camera. To be clear, I am not bashing Fuji at all, as I love my Fuji gear 9I'll never sell my X-H1!), and returned to it after several months dabbling in the Z system. However, I think when we look objectively at Fuji's efforts in CP thus far, the company proper has a significant leap to make if they are going to meet or surpass the other brands.
Thanks for mentioning these features. Yeah, Live Trail is an excellent feature. It is surprising that the sub-contractor that develops their Bayer cameras added many CP related features to the interface.
I think those features have been added to the cameras where the user is more likely to be JPG only.
 
I know I'm being a bit of a wet blanket when I say that we shouldn't get any hopes up for something revolutionary from Fuji in the area of CP. Unless they've recently hired some disgruntled Apple employees, their track record in this area of photography is unremarkable; there's no real evidence of a significant investment in in-camera processing, other than their (remarkable!) color science. I've said it many times, but there are more in-camera features in their lower-end Bayer cameras (made by a third party, hmmm ) than in any X-Trans camera. The X-T200 is the pinnacle of "Fuji's" computational photography cameras thus far. At this stage, I'm actually more interested to see "Fuji's" next Bayer cam, to be honest.
The flagship cameras feature CP in the form of HDR Raw exposure stacking. What CP does the XT200 feature?
X-T200 does exposure stacking for video to give HDR video. No X camera has that. Of course, it does not make sense for X-T3/4 since they have F-log, which one can use to recover even more details in post processing.

Also, X-T200 has gyro sensor stabilization like Sony A7C. It gives much better performance for digital IS. Again, no X-camera has this.

X-T200 also has a neat film simulation/art filter preview interface.

It has portrait enhancer, bright mode, and some unique Advanced Filters which no X camera has:

[FISH-EYE]

[DYNAMIC TONE]

[HDR ART]

[CROSS SCREEN]

[RICH & FINE]

[MONOCHROME(NIR)]

[FOG REMOVE]

You may argue about the usefulness of these features(I think any extra feature is good to have).

But it can't be denied that X-T200 remains the most advanced computational photography camera by Fujifilm to date. Fuji does crazy stuff at times. It will be great if they release new "fun" Bayer camera with even more computational photography stuff.
Thanks for the list here Kamerakiri, I was going to reply with similar, but I'll add two other cp features: Light trails and in-camera time-lapse video. Perhaps these don't fall strictly under the cp umbrella, but they certainly involve real-time in-camera image processing, not available on X-trans cameras.

Light Trails mode: similar (or identical) to Olympus' Live Time/Bulb, where the shutter can be set to stay open for a certain amount of time, or can be activated on or off manually, while the photographer watches the image "build" in real time on the LCD. The shutter can be closed once the shooter is satisfied with the image.

Time Lapse video: the camera can process and render finished 4k/30p time lapse videos in-camera from interval shooting, while keeping the individual image files separate, in case the photographer wants to use them in pp later. The X-T100 also had this feature (the X-T200's regular video features were much more improved over the X-T100 though).

This TL feature is also available on some Nikon, Panasonic and Olympus cameras, and I believe on some Canons as well. Not sure about Sony, they used to have an extra app one had to purchase in order to shoot by intervals and create in-camera TL videos. The Nikon Z5 was the first Nikon camera to offer the same TL feature set as the previously-released X-T200, though with some more flexible settings. The impressive thing about Nikon's implementation was that the finished TL video was being rendered while the camera was shooting the still images in the interval timer, not after the intervals were finished. If one stopped the interval timer the TL video up to that point was ready to watch immediately. One can deduce that a lot of processing power is going on under the hood.

In any case, I think it's correct to say that the X-T200 (made by the Xacti Corporation, as stated here by FR) had/has some CP and in-camera processing features not yet available on any X-Trans camera. To be clear, I am not bashing Fuji at all, as I love my Fuji gear 9I'll never sell my X-H1!), and returned to it after several months dabbling in the Z system. However, I think when we look objectively at Fuji's efforts in CP thus far, the company proper has a significant leap to make if they are going to meet or surpass the other brands.
Thanks for mentioning these features. Yeah, Live Trail is an excellent feature. It is surprising that the sub-contractor that develops their Bayer cameras added many CP related features to the interface.
I think those features have been added to the cameras where the user is more likely to be JPG only.
 
I have heard that Fuji (might) come out with computational photography along with the X-H2. What exactly does that mean? Is that a hardware thing or software, or both? I honestly haven't really been paying too much attention to this subject, but what does computational photography have to do with Fujifilm.
Let's see. My nearly 10yo Fuji X-S1 bridge camera can take multiple exposures at high ISO, align them and make a low noise composite image. It can simulate background blur again by taking multiple exposures, some in focus and some not, and combining them in camera. Does the panorama mode count as computational photography? It has got that too.

Oh, and it also has a powerful AI engine. It can detect and recognise people's faces and then tag photos with their names. It will trip the shutter only when the cat is looking at the camera. It optimises JPEG settings to match the current scene and it automatically selects white balance and exposure parameters. It is very clever.

Fuji had this technology a decade ago.

Modern phones can easily do all of the above. On top of that they can also combine images that come from different cameras on their back - something the single-lens-single-sensor camera cannot possibly do.

What radically new features this "computational photography" can possibly offer? HDR? Focus stacking? Super resolution pixel shift? Fuji got most of that already, while Olympus seems to be running out of ideas what next feature to introduce.

To me this "computational photography" buzz sounds like a rehash of what has already been done many times over rather than a revolution. What am I missing?
Good points!

I remember cameras 5-10 years ago having all these gimmicks, but then people started to correlate these features with lowend cameras, and manufacturers slowly started removing them.

But suddenly you add fancy words like machine learning to the exactly same words again, and it is cool again somehow.
This thread has got me thinking, computational photography might be an excuse to manufacture cheaper lenses, and to just “correct” the defects in post-processing.

They already do this, but it might take on an even larger role in the future. Thoughts?
Agreed. The future of non-smartphone photography is a bridge camera - one body, one lens. Optical quality won't matter very much because every aspect of the image is processed in-camera. Maybe there will be profiles as pre-sets, such as a "Canon" profile, with lens and dof selections. Want to shoot like a Nikon D850 with a 200-500mm? No problem, we have that profile. Want to bracket a shot with all generations of Fuji X-Trans sensors? We can do that too.

The sky is the limit. No, wait... :-|
 
The flagship cameras feature CP in the form of HDR Raw exposure stacking. What CP does the XT200 feature?
X-T200 does exposure stacking for video to give HDR video. No X camera has that. Of course, it does not make sense for X-T3/4 since they have F-log, which one can use to recover even more details in post processing.

Also, X-T200 has gyro sensor stabilization like Sony A7C. It gives much better performance for digital IS. Again, no X-camera has this.

X-T200 also has a neat film simulation/art filter preview interface.

It has portrait enhancer, bright mode, and some unique Advanced Filters which no X camera has:

[FISH-EYE]

[DYNAMIC TONE]

[HDR ART]

[CROSS SCREEN]

[RICH & FINE]

[MONOCHROME(NIR)]

[FOG REMOVE]

You may argue about the usefulness of these features(I think any extra feature is good to have).
Light Trails mode: similar (or identical) to Olympus' Live Time/Bulb, where the shutter can be set to stay open for a certain amount of time, or can be activated on or off manually, while the photographer watches the image "build" in real time on the LCD. The shutter can be closed once the shooter is satisfied with the image.

Time Lapse video: the camera can process and render finished 4k/30p time lapse videos in-camera from interval shooting, while keeping the individual image files separate, in case the photographer wants to use them in pp later. The X-T100 also had this feature (the X-T200's regular video features were much more improved over the X-T100 though).

This TL feature is also available on some Nikon, Panasonic and Olympus cameras, and I believe on some Canons as well. Not sure about Sony, they used to have an extra app one had to purchase in order to shoot by intervals and create in-camera TL videos. The Nikon Z5 was the first Nikon camera to offer the same TL feature set as the previously-released X-T200, though with some more flexible settings. The impressive thing about Nikon's implementation was that the finished TL video was being rendered while the camera was shooting the still images in the interval timer, not after the intervals were finished. If one stopped the interval timer the TL video up to that point was ready to watch immediately. One can deduce that a lot of processing power is going on under the hood.
Thanks for mentioning these features. Yeah, Live Trail is an excellent feature. It is surprising that the sub-contractor that develops their Bayer cameras added many CP related features to the interface.
I think those features have been added to the cameras where the user is more likely to be JPG only.
Fujifilm famous film simulation also added to the cameras where the user is more likely to be JPEG only.

Are film simulation should remove from enthusiast model (e.g. X-T30)? IMO film simulation is nice features (also above X-T200 CP features).

Wish Fujifilm repacking X-T200 (include those CP tech) into X70 like affordable fixed lens compact camera (but include Lumix TZ95 like built-in lens cap)
 
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The flagship cameras feature CP in the form of HDR Raw exposure stacking. What CP does the XT200 feature?
X-T200 does exposure stacking for video to give HDR video. No X camera has that. Of course, it does not make sense for X-T3/4 since they have F-log, which one can use to recover even more details in post processing.

Also, X-T200 has gyro sensor stabilization like Sony A7C. It gives much better performance for digital IS. Again, no X-camera has this.

X-T200 also has a neat film simulation/art filter preview interface.

It has portrait enhancer, bright mode, and some unique Advanced Filters which no X camera has:

[FISH-EYE]

[DYNAMIC TONE]

[HDR ART]

[CROSS SCREEN]

[RICH & FINE]

[MONOCHROME(NIR)]

[FOG REMOVE]

You may argue about the usefulness of these features(I think any extra feature is good to have).
Light Trails mode: similar (or identical) to Olympus' Live Time/Bulb, where the shutter can be set to stay open for a certain amount of time, or can be activated on or off manually, while the photographer watches the image "build" in real time on the LCD. The shutter can be closed once the shooter is satisfied with the image.

Time Lapse video: the camera can process and render finished 4k/30p time lapse videos in-camera from interval shooting, while keeping the individual image files separate, in case the photographer wants to use them in pp later. The X-T100 also had this feature (the X-T200's regular video features were much more improved over the X-T100 though).

This TL feature is also available on some Nikon, Panasonic and Olympus cameras, and I believe on some Canons as well. Not sure about Sony, they used to have an extra app one had to purchase in order to shoot by intervals and create in-camera TL videos. The Nikon Z5 was the first Nikon camera to offer the same TL feature set as the previously-released X-T200, though with some more flexible settings. The impressive thing about Nikon's implementation was that the finished TL video was being rendered while the camera was shooting the still images in the interval timer, not after the intervals were finished. If one stopped the interval timer the TL video up to that point was ready to watch immediately. One can deduce that a lot of processing power is going on under the hood.
Thanks for mentioning these features. Yeah, Live Trail is an excellent feature. It is surprising that the sub-contractor that develops their Bayer cameras added many CP related features to the interface.
I think those features have been added to the cameras where the user is more likely to be JPG only.
Fujifilm famous film simulation also added to the cameras where the user is more likely to be JPEG only.
Just checked and yes the GFX100S has all the film sims. There are significantly more Fuji cameras with film sims where the user will not be JPG only.
 

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