What does the 28-75mm tell us?

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Is it possible that instead of licensing the Z mount, Nikon is just going to use Tamron as a partner to offer an expanded lens range?

It seems like a good strategy to me.

Nikon has partnered with Tamron before (see https://cameragossip.github.io/nikon-lens-patents.html)
There are some ups and downs. On the upside we'll have more lenses and more, also affordable options, while the downside is that we pay probably some 20-30% extra to Nikon just for putting their badge on a Tamron lens. I do seriously hope that we at least get the same quality control and same Nikon support in terms of Firmware and lens corrections and that these lenses are not treated or regarded in any way different than their in-house lenses regarding such aspects.
 
Is it possible that instead of licensing the Z mount, Nikon is just going to use Tamron as a partner to offer an expanded lens range?

It seems like a good strategy to me.

Nikon has partnered with Tamron before (see https://cameragossip.github.io/nikon-lens-patents.html)
There are some ups and downs. On the upside we'll have more lenses and more, also affordable options, while the downside is that we pay probably some 20-30% extra to Nikon just for putting their badge on a Tamron lens. I do seriously hope that we at least get the same quality control and same Nikon support in terms of Firmware and lens corrections and that these lenses are not treated or regarded in any way different than their in-house lenses regarding such aspects.
Its probably a lot more then simply re badging. This lens could be using the chips that Nikon use for AF in their own Z lenses, motors can be different than those used in the Tamron for Sony, remember Sony only allow 3rd party lenses up to 15fps not the 20-30 and 120fps that all Z lenses can achieve on the Z9, If you have used a Panasonic 7-14mm f4 on a Olympus body you will know about the purple blobs caused by the mismatch of coatings on the rear of the lens and sensor. Basically it's a lens made for Nikon by a sub contractor, for which Nikon have to take full responsibility for, regarding quality and performance, due to it having their name on it.

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Is it possible that instead of licensing the Z mount, Nikon is just going to use Tamron as a partner to offer an expanded lens range?
Have a look at the lens construction.

Super ED indicates it might be a Nikon design.

The rear element approximately 15.75mm from the sensor seems to clarify it is a new lens design that will not easily fit anything else as a protruding rear element would be needed to achieve a workable lens bayonet to sensor distance.

Lens construction - Nikon 28-75 S
Lens construction - Nikon 28-75 S

On the Nikon UK web site it is £949 - which should include 20% VAT. This seems distinctly lower than USA - unless there has been a mistake in UK and VAT has not been included in the price.



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Is it possible that instead of licensing the Z mount, Nikon is just going to use Tamron as a partner to offer an expanded lens range?
Have a look at the lens construction.

Super ED indicates it might be a Nikon design.
Not really as Nikon refers to any glass with vd > 91 as Super ED. Now-a-days many third-party lenses use Hoya FCD100 that is vd 95 same as fluorite.
The rear element approximately 15.75mm from the sensor seems to clarify it is a new lens design that will not easily fit anything else as a protruding rear element would be needed to achieve a workable lens bayonet to sensor distance.

Lens construction - Nikon 28-75 S
Lens construction - Nikon 28-75 S

On the Nikon UK web site it is £949 - which should include 20% VAT. This seems distinctly lower than USA - unless there has been a mistake in UK and VAT has not been included in the price.
Here is the Tamron

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You will notice that the Nikon version has the rear lens more recessed; so this is the same lens design used for Sony E mount.

MTF chart is also the same almost.

 
Is it possible that instead of licensing the Z mount, Nikon is just going to use Tamron as a partner to offer an expanded lens range?

It seems like a good strategy to me.

Nikon has partnered with Tamron before (see https://cameragossip.github.io/nikon-lens-patents.html)
There are some ups and downs. On the upside we'll have more lenses and more, also affordable options, while the downside is that we pay probably some 20-30% extra to Nikon just for putting their badge on a Tamron lens. I do seriously hope that we at least get the same quality control and same Nikon support in terms of Firmware and lens corrections and that these lenses are not treated or regarded in any way different than their in-house lenses regarding such aspects.
I would expect that this lens is made to Nikon's specs, and to be fully supported like other Nikon lenses.

Either Tamron is supplying the optical components and Nikon is assembling them.

Or Tamron is building the whole lens to Nikon's specs. This is more interesting as it means Nikon is sharing the mount protocol etc with Tamron or supplying them parts.
 
I don't know. Nikon has used Konica-Minolta for so many designs that I think that's their off-the-farm lens design partner. I expect Tamron offered the 28-75 design on the cheap and it wasn't a hard thing for Nikon to utilize as a budget lens in their lineup.
I haven't seen any new collaboration with Konica Minolta since the Z 35mm f1.8.

Maybe that was driven by staff who are no longer running the show.
 
I spent some time looking at the patents the other day, and I believe the 85/1.8S is a K-M design; check out EX 3 in the following. It looks like a better match to the production lens than the patent (attributed to Nikon) that you have listed on your site.

I suspect there are other K-M designs we haven't seen yet....


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I spent some time looking at the patents the other day, and I believe the 85/1.8S is a K-M design; check out EX 3 in the following. It looks like a better match to the production lens than the patent (attributed to Nikon) that you have listed on your site.

I suspect there are other K-M designs we haven't seen yet....

https://www.j-platpat.inpit.go.jp/p0200
Indeed you are correct as confirmed by photonstophotos

I updated my list with the better match.
 
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