How many rolls of film do Kodak sell per year in 2021 ?

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A discussion came up in comments on one of the DPR articles about how many rolls of film Kodak sell now. As you might imagine these numbers are pretty hard to come by but it’s possible to have a go at estimating it from publicly available articles -

In Table 7 of KODAK VS. FUJI: THE BATTLE FOR GLOBAL MARKET SHARE by Thomas C. Finnerty. https://pdgciv.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/tfinnerty2.pdf it says that around 2,219 million rolls of film were sold in 1999, and elsewhere estimates that Kodak has 33% of the worldwide market in 1999 (I’m assuming 1999 is “peak film”)

In the New York Times it says that “AMERICANS buy 850 million rolls a year in 2003” which fits in with Table 7 in the Finnerty paper https://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/26/...is-digital-eclipsing-the-moment-at-kodak.html

In the Phoblograpger in 2025 it said that sales of Kodak’s consumer film had dropped to 1% of their peak “Consumer film (i.e. Kodak Gold 200 and UltraMax 400) sales have dropped to less than 1% of what they were in the peak years” - https://www.thephoblographer.com/2015/04/23/manufacturers-talk-state-film-photography-industry/ It also says that the professional film sales declined less

In Kosmophoto in 2020 it said the “Eastman Kodak’s still film production more than doubled in the last four years (2015 - 2019)” https://kosmofoto.com/2020/01/eastm...ion-more-than-doubled-in-the-last-four-years/

So a worst case for those numbers (I.e. assuming the drop in sales for ColorPlus etc we’re consistent across all films ) then multiplying all this together would indicate that Kodak is selling somewhere around 14.8 million rolls of film a year.

Does that fit in with what people think ? Are there any other statistics available ? I did find a number which indicated that the equivalent of 80million rolls of film are made a year by Kodak, but this would include all the movie film that Kodak manufacturers
 
Take a look at Eastman Kodak earnings statement. Their film and chemicals division posted $133MM revenue for 9 months of 2021, so lets round up to $180MM per year. Let's assume they take home about 50% of the retail, which means the $180MM becomes $360MM. Assuming the average retail roll is $10 (for simplicity) that's 36 million rolls of film per year.

BUT...

That number includes not just film, but also chemicals. And also it's the combination of motion picture and photo film.

Allocating some of that to chemistry, I think it's safe to assume that 30 million rolls is the upper bound. If we assume that the cine film is half of their sales, we end up with 15 million rolls - almost the same number as in your estimate :)
 
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Take a look at Eastman Kodak earnings statement. Their film and chemicals division posted $133MM revenue for 9 months of 2021, so lets round up to $180MM per year. Let's assume they take home about 50% of the retail, which means the $180MM becomes $360MM. Assuming the average retail roll is $10 (for simplicity) that's 36 million rolls of film per year.

BUT...

That number includes not just film, but also chemicals. And also it's the combination of motion picture and photo film.

Allocating some of that to chemistry, I think it's safe to assume that 30 million rolls is the upper bound. If we assume that the cine film is half of their sales, we end up with 15 million rolls - almost the same number as in your estimate :)
The problem with that is that Eastman Kodak don't sell rolls of film for stills (although they do manufacture). They manufacture for Kodak Araris, plus a number of other brands, plus a load of film for commercial film production.

To get the Kodak figure, you will need to look at Kodak Alaris' reports. I'd imagine that consumer film (like Gold), might well be down to 1%, but would guess that the higher end stuff plus the B&W might be higher than that.

edit: A quick view of the Financial report for Kodak Alaris Holdings in 2020 does not give any figures for films supplied, but it does say that the film business revenue was $71m, compared to $54m for the year before. Kodak Alaris made a loss after tax of about $91m, but the film bit seems to be one of the more buoyant.

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Take a look at Eastman Kodak earnings statement. Their film and chemicals division posted $133MM revenue for 9 months of 2021, so lets round up to $180MM per year. Let's assume they take home about 50% of the retail, which means the $180MM becomes $360MM. Assuming the average retail roll is $10 (for simplicity) that's 36 million rolls of film per year.

BUT...

That number includes not just film, but also chemicals. And also it's the combination of motion picture and photo film.

Allocating some of that to chemistry, I think it's safe to assume that 30 million rolls is the upper bound. If we assume that the cine film is half of their sales, we end up with 15 million rolls - almost the same number as in your estimate :)
The problem with that is that Eastman Kodak don't sell rolls of film for stills (although they do manufacture). They manufacture for Kodak Araris, plus a number of other brands, plus a load of film for commercial film production.

To get the Kodak figure, you will need to look at Kodak Alaris' reports. I'd imagine that consumer film (like Gold), might well be down to 1%, but would guess that the higher end stuff plus the B&W might be higher than that.
Id assumed a cross film 99% drop because the consumer colour films are the big sellers, and it will only under estimate the size of the film business
edit: A quick view of the Financial report for Kodak Alaris Holdings in 2020 does not give any figures for films supplied, but it does say that the film business revenue was $71m, compared to $54m for the year before. Kodak Alaris made a loss after tax of about $91m, but the film bit seems to be one of the more buoyant.
I presume that will include and development kits and paper too ? $71m wouldn’t support 15m sales unless the cost of film to a distributor is around $4. Which might be right, I get the impression film is a pretty high margin business
 
Take a look at Eastman Kodak earnings statement. Their film and chemicals division posted $133MM revenue for 9 months of 2021, so lets round up to $180MM per year. Let's assume they take home about 50% of the retail, which means the $180MM becomes $360MM. Assuming the average retail roll is $10 (for simplicity) that's 36 million rolls of film per year.

BUT...

That number includes not just film, but also chemicals. And also it's the combination of motion picture and photo film.

Allocating some of that to chemistry, I think it's safe to assume that 30 million rolls is the upper bound. If we assume that the cine film is half of their sales, we end up with 15 million rolls - almost the same number as in your estimate :)
The problem with that is that Eastman Kodak don't sell rolls of film for stills (although they do manufacture). They manufacture for Kodak Araris, plus a number of other brands, plus a load of film for commercial film production.

To get the Kodak figure, you will need to look at Kodak Alaris' reports. I'd imagine that consumer film (like Gold), might well be down to 1%, but would guess that the higher end stuff plus the B&W might be higher than that.
Id assumed a cross film 99% drop because the consumer colour films are the big sellers, and it will only under estimate the size of the film business
edit: A quick view of the Financial report for Kodak Alaris Holdings in 2020 does not give any figures for films supplied, but it does say that the film business revenue was $71m, compared to $54m for the year before. Kodak Alaris made a loss after tax of about $91m, but the film bit seems to be one of the more buoyant.
I presume that will include and development kits and paper too ? $71m wouldn’t support 15m sales unless the cost of film to a distributor is around $4. Which might be right, I get the impression film is a pretty high margin business
That was just film - The Paper/Photochemicals/Film division had revenues of $149m (down from 2019 which was $151m). Gross profits for the PPF division was $19m which they say was down to film. The report says they have since sold off the paper, photochemicals and Display and software business.
 
I presume that will include and development kits and paper too ? $71m wouldn’t support 15m sales unless the cost of film to a distributor is around $4. Which might be right, I get the impression film is a pretty high margin business
In my country Kodak films runs around 30-35% profit margin between wholesale and retail prices. How much is a wholesale profit margin I don’t know, but I assume it would run around 20%.
 
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A discussion came up in comments on one of the DPR articles about how many rolls of film Kodak sell now. As you might imagine these numbers are pretty hard to come by but it’s possible to have a go at estimating it from publicly available articles -

In Table 7 of KODAK VS. FUJI: THE BATTLE FOR GLOBAL MARKET SHARE by Thomas C. Finnerty. https://pdgciv.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/tfinnerty2.pdfit says that around 2,219 million rolls of film were sold in 1999, and elsewhere estimates that Kodak has 33% of the worldwide market in 1999 (I’m assuming 1999 is “peak film”)

In the New York Times it says that “AMERICANS buy 850 million rolls a year in 2003” which fits in with Table 7 in the Finnerty paper https://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/26/...is-digital-eclipsing-the-moment-at-kodak.html

In the Phoblograpger in 2025 it said that sales of Kodak’s consumer film had dropped to 1% of their peak “Consumer film (i.e. Kodak Gold 200 and UltraMax 400) sales have dropped to less than 1% of what they were in the peak years” - https://www.thephoblographer.com/2015/04/23/manufacturers-talk-state-film-photography-industry/It also says that the professional film sales declined less

In Kosmophoto in 2020 it said the “Eastman Kodak’s still film production more than doubled in the last four years (2015 - 2019)” https://kosmofoto.com/2020/01/eastm...ion-more-than-doubled-in-the-last-four-years/

So a worst case for those numbers (I.e. assuming the drop in sales for ColorPlus etc we’re consistent across all films ) then multiplying all this together would indicate that Kodak is selling somewhere around 14.8 million rolls of film a year.

Does that fit in with what people think ? Are there any other statistics available ? I did find a number which indicated that the equivalent of 80million rolls of film are made a year by Kodak, but this would include all the movie film that Kodak manufacturers
IDK but I still shoot film with my film cameras especially my Canon EA- 1 program . :-)
 

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