Candid/Street photography.

The amount of candid photography should be reduced by 90%, that's my estimate of how much of it is really 'needed',..
That's one position to consider. Actually, it's not unreasonable to suggest that 90% of numerous other activities that people engage in don't qualify as 'needed' either.

For example, here's a variation to consider:

The amount of discussion and debate about candid photography should be reduced by 90%. That's almost certainly some people's estimate of how much of it is really 'needed'.
 
Last edited:
rsn wrote:
[../..]
So in Sweden, if I were Swedish and I throw a birthday party for my 8 year old son and I invited other families to bring their son or daughter over and I took photos, I could go to jail for up to two years. Or I could, when the parents dropped their kid off have them sign a liability waiver. Now do you think this actually goes on in Sweden, I'm not an expert but I can safely guess - no.

Many laws are really to make politicians look good but aren't enforced. [../..]
I know about a couple who sued a photo-club here in France. A pic of their wedding - with all the guests pictured in front of the City hall - had been selected for a book. The book was intended to be a testimony of the life in the city.
In the end the Court granted that there was no law infringement, the couple lost,... but the photo-club was ruined by the trial and had to close.
 
[No message]
 
The amount of candid photography should be reduced by 90%, that's my estimate of how much of it is really 'needed',..
That's one position to consider. Actually, it's not unreasonable to suggest that 90% of numerous other activities that people engage in don't qualify as 'needed' either.

For example, here's a variation to consider:

The amount of discussion and debate about candid photography should be reduced by 90%. That's almost certainly some people's estimate of how much of it is really 'needed'.
So you equate discussions about candid photography (or any other topic, for that matter) on Internet fora with the question of whether or not you should have a right to take another person's photo in the street? A poor analogy, I think.
 
Last edited:
Warning: the first eleven minutes are the presenter being professorly, pedantic in other words. Jump to the eleven minute mark if you wish to avoid academia. If you wish to learn more about street photography watch the first eleven minutes:

[A number of years ago, I linked this video in the documentary forum and many there found it enjoyable]

It's pretty much the same in most genres of photography. Consider the nude. Everyone shooting nudes claims theirs is art. Many looking at other's work consider it trash and smut. Many will come to its defense and many will condemn it.

Not much different. Except nudes have the decency of the model's consent (well, they SHOULD!) and street often doesn't. Unless it is nude on the street, then then it too should, LOL, there have been some interesting ones, including a photographer shooting massive crowds of nude people covering entire street, square, etc.

Drawing distinctions between documentary and journalistic and artistic and social and personal subgenres will be difficult.
 
In the US generally, if you are in a public place you have no expectation of anonymity. As such photographing people is legal for noncommercial use in most countries. If you do a web search it will answer all your questions with more accuracy than you will receive in a forum. The fact that it is legal should be obvious considering all the videos and stills taken by amateurs of crimes and other activities that we see on US television.

As far as people being harassed by the police for taking photos of them, they have no legal right to do that and the ACLU has a history of winning lawsuits against police for doing that.

--
Tom
 
Last edited:
Are you allowed to take photos of random people in the street?
What's legally allowed, and what might get you beat up, are two different things.
In that case, the person photographed committed a crime and would probably end up in prison with a felony record.
 
The amount of candid photography should be reduced by 90%, that's my estimate of how much of it is really 'needed'...
That's one position to consider. Actually, it's not unreasonable to suggest that 90% of numerous other activities that people engage in don't qualify as 'needed' either.

For example, here's a variation to consider:

The amount of discussion and debate about candid photography should be reduced by 90%. That's almost certainly some people's estimate of how much of it is really 'needed'.
So you equate discussions about candid photography (or any other topic, for that matter) on Internet fora with the question of whether or not you should have a right to take another person's photo in the street?
I haven't equated anything with anything.
A poor analogy, I think.
I haven't presented an analogy either. I presented a variation of the other poster's statement about how much of anything different people think is 'needed'.
 
Last edited:
The amount of candid photography should be reduced by 90%, that's my estimate of how much of it is really 'needed'...
That's one position to consider. Actually, it's not unreasonable to suggest that 90% of numerous other activities that people engage in don't qualify as 'needed' either.

For example, here's a variation to consider:

The amount of discussion and debate about candid photography should be reduced by 90%. That's almost certainly some people's estimate of how much of it is really 'needed'.
So you equate discussions about candid photography (or any other topic, for that matter) on Internet fora with the question of whether or not you should have a right to take another person's photo in the street?
I haven't equated anything with anything.
A poor analogy, I think.
I haven't presented an analogy either. I presented a variation of the other poster's statement about how much of anything different people think is 'needed'.
whatever. you sought to say that the same could be said of many other things - your purpose was to trivialise the debate (presumably because you don't think it is worth having). It wasn't very illuminating.
 
The amount of candid photography should be reduced by 90%, that's my estimate of how much of it is really 'needed'...
That's one position to consider. Actually, it's not unreasonable to suggest that 90% of numerous other activities that people engage in don't qualify as 'needed' either.

For example, here's a variation to consider:

The amount of discussion and debate about candid photography should be reduced by 90%. That's almost certainly some people's estimate of how much of it is really 'needed'.
So you equate discussions about candid photography (or any other topic, for that matter) on Internet fora with the question of whether or not you should have a right to take another person's photo in the street?
I haven't equated anything with anything.
A poor analogy, I think.
I haven't presented an analogy either. I presented a variation of the other poster's statement about how much of anything different people think is 'needed'.
whatever. you sought to say that the same could be said of many other things -
I contend that it's not unreasonable to apply the same thought to numerous other activities.
your purpose was to trivialise the debate (presumably because you don't think it is worth having).
People may choose to question the necessity of candid photography, and people may also choose to question the necessity of debates about it. Their purposes for questioning these things would be a different matter.

Also, my purpose for commenting on that idea could be another different matter. You don't know my purpose, and are just inferring it based on your perceptions.
It wasn't very illuminating.
Perhaps not, though it's at least as illuminating as the comment to which I replied.
 
Last edited:
If you do a web search it will answer all your questions with more accuracy than you will receive in a [photography] forum.
A bit of a sad statement about dpr, but true.
Unfortunately, it degenerated into how terrible street photography is and what terrible people street photographers are. Everybody has a right to their own opinions but sometimes it's better to say nothing.
 
If you do a web search it will answer all your questions with more accuracy than you will receive in a [photography] forum.
A bit of a sad statement about dpr, but true.
Unfortunately, it degenerated into how terrible street photography is and what terrible people street photographers are. Everybody has a right to their own opinions but sometimes it's better to say nothing.
nonsense. I am a street photographer and I use telephotos (sometimes). No-one said street photographers are terrible people - someone simply pointed out that there is a moral issue that needs to be considered - what's wrong with that? what's degenerate about that? are we so thin-skinned? It is possible to love and enjoy street photography and still consider these issues. unless you'd rather DPR was the kind place where there are sacred cows.
 
The amount of candid photography should be reduced by 90%, that's my estimate of how much of it is really 'needed'...
That's one position to consider. Actually, it's not unreasonable to suggest that 90% of numerous other activities that people engage in don't qualify as 'needed' either.

For example, here's a variation to consider:

The amount of discussion and debate about candid photography should be reduced by 90%. That's almost certainly some people's estimate of how much of it is really 'needed'.
So you equate discussions about candid photography (or any other topic, for that matter) on Internet fora with the question of whether or not you should have a right to take another person's photo in the street?
I haven't equated anything with anything.
A poor analogy, I think.
I haven't presented an analogy either. I presented a variation of the other poster's statement about how much of anything different people think is 'needed'.
whatever. you sought to say that the same could be said of many other things -
I contend that it's not unreasonable to apply the same thought to numerous other activities.
your purpose was to trivialise the debate (presumably because you don't think it is worth having).
People may choose to question the necessity of candid photography, and people may also choose to question the necessity of debates about it. Their purposes for questioning these things would be a different matter.

Also, my purpose for commenting on that idea could be another different matter. You don't know my purpose, and are just inferring it based on your perceptions.
It wasn't very illuminating.
Perhaps not, though it's at least as illuminating as the comment to which I replied.
Tough to say if it was illuminating but it was a perfect and needed reply. I disliked the use of the word should. I don't like being told what sort of photography I should or shouldn't do. The word need doesn't fly either. I don't know if I need to take one picture or ever eat ice cream again. That's not going to stop me.
 
Tough to say if it was illuminating but it was a perfect and needed reply. I disliked the use of the word should. I don't like being told what sort of photography I should or shouldn't do. The word need doesn't fly either. I don't know if I need to take one picture or ever eat ice cream again. That's not going to stop me.
I think the person who made those assertions was simply saying what he feels . he doesn't have the power to stop anybody from doing street photography the way he feels they shouldn't. As you say, it's not going to stop you - and after thinking about it, it's not going to stop me either. if that's how he feels, what other way is there to make that point? I think the sensitivity of many to this topic belies he fact that he has a point. There is a moral dimension to street photography, it's ignored by street photographers and it's good that it gets an airing.
 
99% of this candid street photography is voyeuristic, not journalistic.
Yes, exactly, 99.9% of what you see in these forums is.
Well since 99.9 % of street photos are voyeuristic can you provide some links from the Documentary and Street Photography Forum here so that I and others may see these voyeuristic images. Should be dirt easy since almost all of them are.

You might want to watch the video I linked to earlier that you didn't watch to learn about the genre. Might want to point out the voyeuristic images in that video as well.
SP by its very own nature is voyeuristic, seems you have a problem with this, guess you haven`t learned a lot, after all we are all voyeurs.

Anyone questioning should ignore the legal and observe the morality of it all, just because the law says you can, it does not mean that you should.
Video I linked to earlier:

--
Hoka Hey
 
Last edited:
Tough to say if it was illuminating but it was a perfect and needed reply. I disliked the use of the word should. I don't like being told what sort of photography I should or shouldn't do. The word need doesn't fly either. I don't know if I need to take one picture or ever eat ice cream again. That's not going to stop me.
I think the person who made those assertions was simply saying what he feels . he doesn't have the power to stop anybody from doing street photography the way he feels they shouldn't. As you say, it's not going to stop you - and after thinking about it, it's not going to stop me either. if that's how he feels, what other way is there to make that point? I think the sensitivity of many to this topic belies he fact that he has a point. There is a moral dimension to street photography, it's ignored by street photographers and it's good that it gets an airing.
There's a moral dimension to everything. Every type of photography. Wildlife photographers who leave bait. Landscape photographers trodding over the land. Just have to do good the best we can do whatever we are doing.
 
Most people think that taking photos of ordinary, everyday things is useless. Except when you see the photos again, years later, and notice that practically everything has changed, and will remember things that you had long forgotten.
in my city, downtown, new buildings are popping up like mushrooms. And old ones are disappearing.

I'm surprised that my "boring" pictures of downtown streets are now documents about the recent and older past.

And, not so old pictures with people are surprising too as the demographics, fashion and behaviours (*) have changed.

In a few years, will many people wear VR glasses ? Will there be smartphones in everyone's hand ? Almost no one has a flip phone or Blackberry now ;)

(*) examples: smartphones with "feed" zombies, many people talking to themselves... but, actually using bluetooth earphone, etc.
 

Keyboard shortcuts

Back
Top