Mirrorless for low light / travel - Canon Panosonic or Sony?

Curious what the best mirrorless body/lens combo is for travel and shooting in low light - beachy, sunsets, and indoors. I also prefer at least a 10 fps and at least 25 mp for enlargements (from poster size to panoramics)

Im considering the Canon M6 MII, but read conflicting info about its flash and performance in low light. I know Lenses make a differance too..

Will be attending a graduation, as well as wanting something easy to travel to the Florida Keys with.



Also considered the Sony ZV-E10 and Panasonic DC-S5.. but wasnt sure how they are in terns of Lenses,
I have a Canon 80D and have used Sony and Panosonic compacts, but not DSLRs.

Looking to spend under $1800ish for both..

Andrea Sanddollar shutterbug said:

Curious what the best mirrorless body/lens combo is for travel and shooting in low light - beachy, sunsets, and indoors. I also prefer at least a 10 fps and at least 25 mp for enlargements (from poster size to panoramics)

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I'd suggest some flexibility on the frame rate. Not impossible but might be limiting when it comes to choices. 24 mp is common, 25 mp or greater, much less so.

Andrea Sanddollar shutterbug said:

Im considering the Canon M6 MII, but read conflicting info about its flash and performance in low light. I know Lenses make a differance too..

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The Canon M series seems quite a bit less popular in the US compared to global popularity. Not sure why. I might suggest seeing about how Canon chooses to move forward with aps-c mirror-less. I don't believe the M lenses are compatible with the new R series mount. I happen to be a Sony user so not real familiar with the Canon Ms. If the current offerings in body/lenses work for you, probably fine. Not sure about future system growth.

There are some f2.8 zooms in some aps-c systems. Also faster f1.8 or f1.4 primes. This could help in low light shooting when compaed to variable aperture zooms which might start at f3.5 but move through to f5.6 or f6.3 at the long end.

Andrea Sanddollar shutterbug said:

Will be attending a graduation, as well as wanting something easy to travel to the Florida Keys with.

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I think all the aps-c systems are pretty similar in size and weight and ease of traveling with. Is the graduation going to require longer focal lengths and/or be indoors, outdoors at night, etc.?

Andrea Sanddollar shutterbug said:

Also considered the Sony ZV-E10 and Panasonic DC-S5.. but wasnt sure how they are in terns of Lenses,

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The ZV-E10 is similar (I guess) to the Sony A6100 but aimed at vlogging as opposed to stills shooting. It uses the Sony E mount, which supports aps-c and ff lenses/bodies and I believe would have the broadest range of available lenses.

Andrea Sanddollar shutterbug said:

I have a Canon 80D and have used Sony and Panosonic compacts, but not DSLRs.

Looking to spend under $1800ish for both..

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Could you amplify what you'd like to improve on from the 80D/ There are a lot of options so it's hard to narrow suggestions down.

I agree with what Craig has said.

24MP is plenty of resolution and I doubt that you need 10 fps unless you want to shoot sports/action. I also have concerns about the future of the EOS-M system and would suggest not buying into it until we know what Canon's intention are with regard to APS-C and EOS-R. You can't use EOS-R lenses on EOS-M bodies and all Canon's best new lenses are going to be EOS-R.

I have had a look at your last posts in 2015 when you had a Canon T5i and 18-55mm STM and 75-300mm lenses. At the end of that thread you said that you were going to change the 75-300mm lens for a 55-250mm (good move!) so I assume that you have done that and upgraded to an 80D. Have you bought any other lenses? Do you have an external flash?

The 80D and the 18-55mm plus 55-250mm is still a good setup for travel, so telling us what improvements you want to get from a change to mirrorless would be a good starting point for suggestions.

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Unless you are really into vlogging or video, I'd suggest a Sony a6100 or 6400 instead. I think that Sony seems to have the most compact system as long as you stick with the APS-C format lenses. If you start putting full frame lenses on the Sony APS-C bodies, you are defeating your desire for a lightweight system.

Thanks.

I actually recently sold my 80D.... didnt want to but needed money and thought of upgrading anyway.
I loved that camera and still planning on getting a 90D (if Canon keeps DSLR line) but just wanted more of a quicky camera to travel with that has the same quality as DSLR.

I will say I'm eyeing the Sony more.. seems their Lens selection is better than the Canon for mirrorless..
Planning on using it for everyday shots, sunsets, beachy shots, and an outdoor graduation.

Canon eos m6 mark ii is an old camera. If you can wait till the new RF aps-c system, many say that Canon will announce at the second half of 2022. Better have something you can evolve with.

Andrea Sanddollar shutterbug said:

Thanks.

I actually recently sold my 80D.... didnt want to but needed money and thought of upgrading anyway.
I loved that camera and still planning on getting a 90D (if Canon keeps DSLR line) but just wanted more of a quicky camera to travel with that has the same quality as DSLR.

I will say I'm eyeing the Sony more.. seems their Lens selection is better than the Canon for mirrorless..
Planning on using it for everyday shots, sunsets, beachy shots, and an outdoor graduation.

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The M6ii has a similar feature set to the 90D. Also, the EF-M cameras can use the EF lenses with an adaptor, so you have access to a huge variety of Canon lenses.

Andrea Sanddollar shutterbug said:

Curious what the best mirrorless body/lens combo is for travel and shooting in low light - beachy, sunsets, and indoors. I also prefer at least a 10 fps and at least 25 mp for enlargements (from poster size to panoramics)

Im considering the Canon M6 MII, but read conflicting info about its flash and performance in low light. I know Lenses make a differance too..

Will be attending a graduation, as well as wanting something easy to travel to the Florida Keys with.

Also considered the Sony ZV-E10 and Panasonic DC-S5.. but wasnt sure how they are in terns of Lenses,
I have a Canon 80D and have used Sony and Panosonic compacts, but not DSLRs.

Looking to spend under $1800ish for both..

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Also look at the Canon R6 or R - can easily use Canon EF and EFS lens with adapter

You should check out the Fuji X-T series of cameras and lenses. I picked up an X-T20 with the kit 18-55mm f/2.8-4 for lightweight travel & backpacking back in 2017 and love it for travel. It's small and easy to carry all day or night while walking around. The EVF is great for visual confirmation of settings. Whether you choose a body with IBIS or lens(es) with stabilization, the system does will in low-light situations. And Fuji has the best selection of APS-C lenses of any manufacturer.

Good luck with your choice.

Are you gonna use a tripod?

Otherwise, keep in mind that image stabilization might be more important than lens aperture.

An f4 lens with good image stabilization might give better results than an f1.4 with no image stabilization for landscape photography.

Anyways, the healthier aps-c systems with the most dedicated aps-c mirrorless lenses are certainly Fuji and Sony.

Only if I was a vlogger / reviewer (which I'm not) I'd consider the plasticky viewfinder-less ZV-E10, and even in that scenario, I'd still consider the X-S10 for the external 10 bit and the IBIS.

Krusty79 said:

Andrea Sanddollar shutterbug said:

Thanks.

I actually recently sold my 80D.... didnt want to but needed money and thought of upgrading anyway.
I loved that camera and still planning on getting a 90D (if Canon keeps DSLR line) but just wanted more of a quicky camera to travel with that has the same quality as DSLR.

I will say I'm eyeing the Sony more.. seems their Lens selection is better than the Canon for mirrorless..
Planning on using it for everyday shots, sunsets, beachy shots, and an outdoor graduation.

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The M6ii has a similar feature set to the 90D. Also, the EF-M cameras can use the EF lenses with an adaptor, so you have access to a huge variety of Canon lenses.

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yes - Canon M can use EF and EFS lens