Off The Mark
Veteran Member
Thanks for the elaboration.I will, but that's the next step in my learning how to use DR17. As it is, being a stills guy, I just tried again shooting stills in Flat then Neutral then Standard. I hoped this set would not be as alarming as the last set of stills I took in Flat. And...Did you grade the footage you shot in flat?I just took my D7500 out on a sunny day and shot on all the Camera Profiles available to me. Flat sucked, I mean it was horrible. I haven't checked out all the videos I took a few days ago up at a pristine alpine lake but I have my fingers crossed...
Flat looked so bad it was like something was wrong with my camera. No contrast (expected), washed out colors (expected) very very unsharp, like I'd taken my camera off AF and just winged the focus and missed badly. That bad. Of course, I didn't know that at the time so I press on.
To summarize what I found out: Flat is unusable at least for stills. Neutral is much better, a touch of color, way more sharpness and better focused (for want of a better description).
You will need to add saturation, color balance (CB) midtone details (MD) sharpness, and contrast. The method for adding contrast is really up to you. Some people like to use an S curve in the curves panel. Some people like to use the numeric Contrast value in the correction wheels palette. Some people like to use Lift and Gain color wheels.
I took both the jpegs and raws into Lightroom (where I live most of the time) and I have to say the Flat images just weren't recoverable. No matter what I did to either the jpegs or raws, I could not bring up the sharpness to match even Neutral. Like I said previously, it's like the camera purposely mis-focuses on Flat. Closeup of a flower revealed a mis-focused center, better on Neutral, looks great on Standard. Bumping up the Clarity and Sharpness and Contrast etc on the Flat images did basically nothing.
So I just looked at one of the vids I took in Flat (not in DR17) and a guy can't tell anything, really. Who knows if the video will sharpen up in the Color page. If it does, for some reason, shooting in Flat in a video, the camera just processes things totally differently.
I've never shot stills in Flat and it's a shock, really, giving results I would have never imagined. Learn something new everyday, right? Now into Resolve 17 and see what I can come up with. Stay tuned.
Can you upload one of the RAW photos shot in flat somewhere so we can download it and monkey around with it? Maybe the corresponding jpg file, too.
In theory, if you are shooting RAW stills, the picture profile won't matter (as far as I know), because picture profiles only affect JPG and video files (traditionally... maybe Nikon has done something with the D7500 RAW metadata??? Hopefully StoneJack can chime in since he has shot video on the D7500)


