But the A1 is out of reach for the vast majority of the market. And Sony is still catching up on their backlog of important cameras, like the A7IV.
More than the current cameras, that's for sure. Unless the new model would be subsidized. Because you have all of the extra costs of a new camera model - separate production runs, marketing, retail space, software, documentation, shipping, etc. - spread over much, much smaller unit sales. It's the same as when people demand special "no-video" cameras at a discount, not understanding economies of scale.
I think it would have a larger market than the s series, which currently is orphaned in all but the most niche scenarios.
i think a ~1700 usd price point for a b&w a7r3 or similar would be perfect. Ideally with tracking af, and whole sensor video. It will be much more successful if it is comparatively affordable because it will be a second camera for many
all they really need to do is not update the design frequently.
True, but Sony has many more product lines than competing manufacturers.
According to B&H, it's the second best selling Sony camera. According to Amazon it is ahead of the A7RIV, A1, A6000, etc.
You are not factoring in recency and other elements, it’s the only non-a1 camera with bionz xr and active stabilization for example. My understanding is that for the 2 series cameras it was about 50/50 with the a7ii and a7rii but less than 5% a7s2
Why would taking off the Bayer filter allow Sony to sell the A7RIII for $1,000 less than it is going for now? Especially when you're demanding massive AF and video upgrades. It would be more expensive than the color version. And more expensive than the current A7RIIIA, which is retailing for $2,700. Maybe you could get a mono A7RII for $1,700 body only, with zero additional improvements.
Video is bigger than ever these days, and even if it was oddly 5% you're still trying to replace it with a <1% camera model.
It’s only firmware.
True. Maybe that would make the a7iv a more relevant base. It’s just, if there is one Sony monochrome, it needs to do both still and video well
the a7riii has occasionally been down to 1700 I believe.
doubt the a7rii is cheaper to make than the a7riii
yes.
i don’t think so.
The logic is more, Sony has all these overlapping product lines, why not create one non-overlapping product, at least as a one off. And I think the investment is fairly minor, some firmware tweaks and a new olpf.
Doubt there will ever be an s4, in the same form factor. Don’t know exactly what the market is, but it’s probably > 1% and less than 5%. Bear in mind that they are marginal buyers though, while s buyers presumably would just pick another Sony camera.
Canon sells a stock ir converted camera. I do think Sony could as well.
I am not sure if it makes sense financially or not. But the investment would presumably be much less than a wholly different camera, with its own sensor production line, like the s-series. As a one-off, I think it could make sense to try. Interchangeable lens cameras are a niche product largely confined to 40+ year olds anyway. It’s all Leica in a way
Why do you think that video is not a market? The A7SIII was outselling the Canon R5 and R6, last year, which are mainstream cameras.
video is a market, but isolated sales figures are not so informative. Oversampled video is superior to the s series in most regards
I love video
we’ll see
If some really want a monochrome camera, they don't look for rational arguments.
As said, do your own check, and do some real world tests. What are your findings? This is basically what I say.
Without an output device, how can you view a raw file - or any digital file?
how many people buy a camera for “rational arguments”? How many buy a full frame ilc for “rational arguments”?If some really want a monochrome camera, they don't look for rational arguments.
Just take a look at the discussions on any camera forum ...how many people buy a camera for “rational arguments”? How many buy a full frame ilc for “rational arguments”?If some really want a monochrome camera, they don't look for rational arguments.
