bobn2
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That's not what the ISO control is intended to do, that's working with the side effects built into the ISO control, which vary from camera to camera. The primary means of maximising IQ is maximising exposure, the effect of the ISO control in terms of DR is pretty complex, but revolves around whether or not its making best use of the exposure that you have. In general DR is maximised by maximising exposure, with a last tweak being given by using the ISO setting which gives lowest read noise but can accept the exposure you're using.Interesting point. To me, ISO control = dynamic range/image quality control.Clearly, if cameras didn't have an ISO control there would be no discussion of what it did.I think most of these ISO discussions could be avoided if cameras had two controls, one labelled Exposure Compensation, and the other labelled Noise Reduction. No "ISO" control at all.I think you meant input there.I think the processing stream between the sensor and the ADC is designed to condition the signal into the ADC to match the output
The ISO setting is certainly one of the 'influencing characteristics' since it can be taken as a guide to the expected exposure, and therefore how large the full scale is likely to be. ISO itself has nothing to do with the sensor.requirements from the ADC, which may of course include ISO as one of the influencing characteristics of the output
There is the question of which control would set the lightness of the final rendering for in-camera JPEGs. I think also if you really want to be able to fine tune control of your camera you'd want independent control of read-chain gain and NR.The NR control would affect analog gain and the NR in the JPG engine. EC as now.
But in the end, I don't think there is a need for either a gain control or an ISO control, especially in mirrorless cameras.
That's what I call 'ISO first' technique, and it has its problems. Essentially you are making a guess at the exposure you'll use in advance of metering it. The assumption that you make setting the lowest ISO for landscape shots is that none of your creative constraints will lead to a lower exposure than the nominal for the base ISO. The using of base ISO and ND filters is exactly equivalent in exposure terms to stopping down.So in landscape photography, I set ISO first (base ISO 100 most of the time) to make sure I get max dynamic range. Then I set aperture and shutter speed, the latter can usually vary wildly. So most of the time, my priorities are ISO > f-stop > shutter speed. When I take a long exposure shot, it's still ISO 100 and ND filters. In rare cases I'm really constrained in terms of exposure, I'd increase ISO after exposure (ETTR through ISO - very close to manual plus auto ISO).
ISO first works OK if you never leave base ISO, but if you do, generally has the effect of you ending up with a lower exposure than your creative constraints would allow, because you end up using the nominal exposure for the ISO that you guessed in the first place. My preferred technique is what I call 'exposure first', where you set the f-number for the minimum DOF you want, and the shutter speed for the motion blur you want (or don't want). Then you set the ISO to match. If you go down to the lowest ISO and the exposure is too big, then you reduce it. That is a straightforward and mechanistic procedure. It is easily automated (with auto ISO currently) and always leads to the best IQ and DR that your creative constraints allow.
Which settings are you talking about? If you want consistent settings, why not just set them consistently?Having the ISO setting may also be important in production to have consistent settings across all cameras used in the field.The sensor readout for viewing/metering gives the camera all the information that it needs about the range of exposures over the sensor, and it can use an algorithm to optimise gain which would take into account the detailed specification of the sensor, and do a better job than would the photographer who has either no information of some derived information such as DxOMark or Bill Claff. All it needs to do is to adjust the gain to maximise the capture of information in the detected range of exposures. As for ISO, it really is a rendering intent control, apart from the setting of the target exposure. Since the camera has all of the information about the captured range of exposures, it is in a position to make a decision about how to render it based on that information - auto ISO, if you like. As for 'EC', what it does now is bias the meter. I would prefer an explicit metering calibration facility, with banks to allow different calibrations to be stored. The role of controlling lightness (which it does sub-optimally by changing exposure) could be done with a rendering intent control.
But, the standardised UI is what it is. I doubt that any of the camera manufacturers will change it.