R5 or wait...

I have been holding there for R3, but it seems to me that R3 may have a lower resolution than R5. Frankly speaking, I will not buy R3 if its resolution is lower than R5 no matter what. I am willing to pay more for R3 with at least the same resolution as R5. It seems to me that Canon doesn't want to make money from me.

I bought an EF-R adaptor for $99.00 from Bestbuy. I am ready. Some jerks are selling the same adaptor for $249 at Amazon. Both Amazon and BH don't have it in stock.

If you really want the high res get the R5. The R3 will almost certainly have less

jwpnyc said:

I have been holding there for R3, but it seems to me that R3 may have a lower resolution than R5. Frankly speaking, I will not buy R3 if its resolution is lower than R5 no matter what.

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jwpnyc said:

I am willing to pay more for R3 with at least the same resolution as R5.

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You will

jwpnyc said:

It seems to me that Canon doesn't want to make money from me.

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Actually they want your money, you don’t want their camera. :-D

jwpnyc said:

I bought an EF-R adaptor for $99.00 from Bestbuy. I am ready. Some jerks are selling the same adaptor for $249 at Amazon. Both Amazon and BH don't have it in stock.

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The R5 is the one to get for resolution, that's all but confirmed at this point.

The R3 however is the one to get for video work, sports and photojournalism. That's all but confirmed too.

It's a 1DX IV, with an RF mount. Think of it that way.

Now it may come with more than 20MP, but less than 45MP. What that number is? Your guess is as good as mine. This camera isn't for everyone.

Now the R1 may be more of a A1 but Canon flavored. You can wait for that. It won't be cheap, and you'll have to wait a bit longer obviously.

The sensible option is the R5 (or even R6, if you don't need the resolution). However, if you need more ISO, low light, speed, the R3 will be the one to get. Canon's leaked that much already; this will trump the 1DX III and R6 in those regards. Oh, and video. I suspect 4K will go for a long time, and less rolling shutter. Depends on your needs. That's why Canon makes multiple models. The R3 is just another tool, not for everyone. I have a curious fascination with it though myself as an event shooter; this might speak my language better than the R6. But, it'll be heavier, more expensive. And again, resolution isn't everything, but it does matter to me, as well.

Don't blow it. Get the R3.

My bet on the R3 is that it will use a 30ish mp sensor as it's more so aimed at the speed with it's new stacked sensor. I seriously do NOT see it being 45mp as a stacked sensor to start out on Canon's part with this tech. I'll be utterly shocked if it is. It is geared it seems as a speed shooting and focus monster in particular. The R5 seems to have hit the mark for higher rez coupled with quite decent and accurate speed. We'll have to be patient and see but I wouldn't hold out too much hope the R3 will feature high rez along with all it's other record setting attributes. I'm thinking they are going to saving the R1 to knock the A1's socks off. I also see the R3 as starting at $5999.95 and the coming R1 planned at around $7999.95. I'm reasonably confident the R1 will offer a top rez of around 80mp. Their coup de gras would be the ability to switch the resolution say from 80mp down to 45mp and perhaps even 24mp for all it's coming additional speed. I'd also bet the R1 will have that much discussed Quad Pixel tech and a electronic shutter to beat them ALL.

Based on the released video specs, the R3 will almost assuredly be lower rez than the R5.

As with all technology, if you can wait, then wait. If you need something now with 45MP, buy the R5.

Canon has likely thought through their pricing strategy, so it's unlikely that the R3 release will affect the R5 price.

Probably the unannounced R1 will have R3 speed/body with R5 resolution to compete with the Sony A1 and Nikon Z9. Later, buy the R1 and use the R5 as a backup body (or sell it).

At 30fps, no way it is going to be 45MP...but you never know and why they are keeping mum about it so as not to cannibalize sales of the R5.

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At 30fps, no way it is going to be 45MP...but you never know and why they are keeping mum about it so as not to cannibalize sales of the R5.

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That's likely to not be much of an issue when/if they release a R3 at say $6000. At over a $2000 difference the buyer for one camera won't compete with the buyer of the other to be sure. I view the R3 more like a "baby R1" of sorts. A truly different animal.

If it's not 45Mp it might be 20Mp.

An extra 30ishMp sensor just for a niche camera only? That's not very efficient if it comes to production costs....

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Don't blow it. Get the R3.

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Plan to; wife authorization pending... That's the hardest part of the deal.

I've never been big on big res, but big ISO? Oh yeah. Where the R5 and R6 split me was the R5's low light performance was so similar to the R6 that the resolution bump outweighed the slight loss of ISO performance and better 4K. Also, the loss of video features on the R6 made me pause (P or Auto) as well, as did the slightly less LCD quality which those do add up a little here a little there as someone who has the better LCD now (R) and video features now (R). Its a hard thing to grasp, how nice it is to cull photos in-camera because of the nice big, bright LCD and EVF. Wife likes to, too.

The R3 on the other hand clearly pulls in front of the R6 at -7EV sensitivity; it's going to have better ISO, and, it'll either match or surpass resolution of the R6. Add to that it has more video features off the bat. It has all the technical pros of the R6 I want (plus some niceties like the large EVF and eye control), but, costs more, weighs more and is larger. I can live with that.

If the R3 clocks in 24MP or more, I'll be really happy as then I can have my cake, and frosting. I get to eat the cake either way though.

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Max5150 said:

Don't blow it. Get the R3.

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Plan to; wife authorization pending... That's the hardest part of the deal.

I've never been big on big res, but big ISO? Oh yeah. Where the R5 and R6 split me was the R5's low light performance was so similar to the R6, that the resolution bump outweighed the slight loss of ISO performance and better 4K. Also, the loss of video features on the R6 made me pause (P or Auto) as well, as did the slightly less LCD quality which those do add up a little here a little there as someone who has the better LCD now (R) and video features now (R). Its a hard thing to grasp, how nice it is to cull photos in-camera because of the nice big, bright LCD and EVF. Wife likes to, too.

The R3 on the other hand clearly pulls in front of the R6 at -7EV sensitivity;

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Do you need that? The difference between -1 or -2EV is important, but at some point the law of diminishing returns kicks in.

RLight said:

it's going to have better ISO,

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Always nice to have, but what if it's just a third of a stop?

RLight said:

and, it'll either match or surpass resolution of the R6. Add to that it has more video features off the bat. It has all the technical pros of the R6 I want, but, costs more, weighs more and is larger. I can live with that.

If the R3 clocks in 24MP

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Not sure if the difference between 20 and 24 is very noticeable.

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or more, I'll be really happy as then I can have my cake, and frosting. I get to eat the cake either way though.

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I guess you won't be buying it. I am thinking it will be 30-36MP.

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RLight said:

Max5150 said:

Don't blow it. Get the R3.

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Plan to; wife authorization pending... That's the hardest part of the deal.

I've never been big on big res, but big ISO? Oh yeah. Where the R5 and R6 split me was the R5's low light performance was so similar to the R6, that the resolution bump outweighed the slight loss of ISO performance and better 4K. Also, the loss of video features on the R6 made me pause (P or Auto) as well, as did the slightly less LCD quality which those do add up a little here a little there as someone who has the better LCD now (R) and video features now (R). Its a hard thing to grasp, how nice it is to cull photos in-camera because of the nice big, bright LCD and EVF. Wife likes to, too.

The R3 on the other hand clearly pulls in front of the R6 at -7EV sensitivity;

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Do you need that? The difference between -1 or -2EV is important, but at some point the law of diminishing returns kicks in.

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Heck no. No-one needs an R, RF-L glass, etc etc. Frankly I could conquer all my needs on an M50 and some fast glass, say Sigma or Rokinon. But do I want to swap lenses? No. That's where the RF 28-70 f/2L comes in. But you need an R for that, mm-hmm. The R6 itself stomps on the R in ISO performance, but, for the life of me, I couldn't decide between the R5 and R6, it's not about the money either, trust me I'm fine spending more on the R3 if it delivers. The R5, I don't need huge files either, and I'd rather have the better 4K of the R6, but again, why do I have to be confined to Auto/P? Ugh. R3 solves all this mess of lack of this and that of the R6, with all the pros of the R6, and then some.

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it's going to have better ISO,

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Always nice to have, but what if it's just a third of a stop?

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Then it is. I'll take it. That's what I expect btw.

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and, it'll either match or surpass resolution of the R6. Add to that it has more video features off the bat. It has all the technical pros of the R6 I want, but, costs more, weighs more and is larger. I can live with that.

If the R3 clocks in 24MP

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Not sure if the difference between 20 and 24 is very noticeable.

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It is when you're printing or cropping.

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or more, I'll be really happy as then I can have my cake, and frosting. I get to eat the cake either way though.

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Thanks, everyone! You have helped me to make the decision. I finally pull the trigger and ordered R5 with an express card from BH. They discounted the package by $50.

Now, any recommendation for an express card reader?

jwpnyc said:

Thanks, everyone! You have helped me to make the decision. I finally pull the trigger and ordered R5 with an express card from BH. They discounted the package by $50.

Now, any recommendation for an express card reader?

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Get the Prograde dual card reader for CFExpress and SD. You will eventually need both slots.

Seems like R3 is lower resolution than R5 so just get your R5

The R5 still might be the better deal i.m.o. It gives you everything but an extra stop of AF sensitivity and 1/3th of a stop less high ISO noise.

Look, if you only have a slow zoom and you use it with a speedlite, that extra stop of AF sensitivity can be useful. However, when you own the f/2.0 zoom or when you're satisfied with primes, -6EV will do. Canon focuses wide open, so It only comes into play when you're using too high ISO values.

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Now, any recommendation for an express card reader?

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Just my humble opinion. I would not get a reader. I was thinking the same thing as you, but they were pretty expensive so I waited. What I've been doing is using wifi. I come home from a weekend of shooting, turn on the wifi on the camera, and then walk away and open a bottle of wine (I deserve it after that long weekend of shooting). The Canon app that comes with the camera downloads everything to my computer. It's about one full resolution RAW image every 2 seconds. Yeah, it uses some battery. I'm done shooting anyway for the day, I don't care. It's SOFA KING easy! I absolutely love it. I encourage you not to get a card reader and just use the EOS utility and see how it works for you.

FWIW

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I would have waited until the official announcement from Canon. Hopefully within the next few weeks. But it also depends on your needs. R3 will certainly cost more but the integrated grip is a bonus. A lot of speculation that it will have 5d IV resolution. I do not but that one. I think the resolution will be similar to the R5. But only Canon knows for sure.