I do. Real world experience seems to be all over the place.
On the fact that individual drops tend to stay where they are and water film tends to flow somewhere (a bit of magic called surface tension)...
Again, there are enough bad stories for me to err on the side of caution. Also, my A7RII is far from new, with heavy outer signs of wear and various missing rubber pieces, so it's quite likely that it's less able to resist water than a new camera.
It is really funny that those who have had no trouble in a very harsh climate are telling anecdotes while those who have had problems tell the truth.
Obviously to use a camera under coditions it was never made for is to take a risk.
Flowing water?
Have seen some but not too many reports of water in an unprotected hot shoe stopping the camera to work for a short while. Seems like this happens when there is no cover or flash in the shoe.
To be fair, not many things last long against salt water, like vehicles parked often by the sea.
Hate? Problems with the truth? Undermine?.... Seriously? :-O
If you want to risk your cameras that's your choice. Advising others to do so is bad advice IMO.
That was meant as helpful advice. You think maybe I shouldn't have mentioned it?
This is true for mobile phones as well, even though they claim an IP-rated water resistance/proofing. If there is evidence of water damage, the warranty will never cover it.
At the end of the day users want cameras that can shrug off water, manufacturers do what they can, and the outcome is a coin toss.
Basic psychology. Generally we want to...
When did personal experience become advice?
Obviously you should.
Actually, Leica does rate some of their stuff and IIRC with higher IPX ratings than Oly's bare minimum IPX1 (which is the lowest possible certification they can strive for within that scale)... Not saying that means much TBH, I think Oly could easily have some of their stuff certified higher but for whatever reason they haven't (maybe they wanna set the same bar for everything, maybe they just don't wanna jump thru extra hoops, who knows).
Or for any other purposes, really.
The A9 and A7rIV camera body shares a lot, but we don't know if the level of sealing is the same for these two camera models. The A9 might be better sealed that lower range cameras that use the same body structure.
Sony have officially said that the A1 is better sealed, and also has a more solid camera body structure than previous models.
Trusting one single test, with a random procedure, doesn't say much at all. The Nikon that got water in the viewfinder, what had happened ata slightly different water spray angle? Disaster? Or nothing?
Protecting the camera is a good idea. When I use my camera unprotected, I also accept that there is no warranty covering eventual damage caused by water.
Thanks for the update on Leica, I had missed that.
Good to know that if I ever buy a Leica I can't accidentally misplace my tripod inside it since it has that dandy solid object protection.
