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I sold my A7Riv and some unused glass towards my GFX100s and first few lenses (45, 80, 32-64). That was the easy part. Definitely no regrets. I also have some Fuji X for lightweight.

Now I am tempted to sell my A9 and remaining Sony lenses (24-70, 70-200 and 50) to get the 45-100mm and possibly other(s). This I might regret.

Anyone made this leap and regretted it?
 
Paul JN said:
I sold my A7Riv and some unused glass towards my GFX100s and first few lenses (45, 80, 32-64). That was the easy part. Definitely no regrets. I also have some Fuji X for lightweight.

Now I am tempted to sell my A9 and remaining Sony lenses (24-70, 70-200 and 50) to get the 45-100mm and possibly other(s). This I might regret.

Anyone made this leap and regretted it?
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I have an a9II and all four GFXen. I would most certainly not sell the a9 unless it was to get an a1.

Of course, if you don't need what the a9 can do uniquely well, my situation won't apply to you. Only you can determine that.

Jim
 
Paul JN said:
I sold my A7Riv and some unused glass towards my GFX100s and first few lenses (45, 80, 32-64). That was the easy part. Definitely no regrets. I also have some Fuji X for lightweight.

Now I am tempted to sell my A9 and remaining Sony lenses (24-70, 70-200 and 50) to get the 45-100mm and possibly other(s). This I might regret.

Anyone made this leap and regretted it?
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what are your use cases though, do you need the capabilities of the A9 in any way that the GFX may not offer?
 
Paul JN said:
I sold my A7Riv and some unused glass towards my GFX100s and first few lenses (45, 80, 32-64). That was the easy part. Definitely no regrets. I also have some Fuji X for lightweight.

Now I am tempted to sell my A9 and remaining Sony lenses (24-70, 70-200 and 50) to get the 45-100mm and possibly other(s). This I might regret.

Anyone made this leap and regretted it?
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You have a really lovely stream on Flickr.

You already have a lot of top-flight kit. TBH, I would do nothing for the time being except make images and wait for the answer to come to you, which it will in time. You have enough GF lenses for that, I would guess. Then your decision will feel right whereas following ‘advice’ prematurely rarely works out. If you major only on the GFX then you will lose a lot of flexibility, so the question is how much use you will make of lighter kit with fast AF and whether Fuji X can do that to an acceptable standard compared to your A9.

I have not yet made a leap to MF but if or more likely when I do I will be hanging on to a lot of my smaller-format kit. The smaller-format stuff makes it much easier to have a camera with me on many occasions. I am not a specialist but a generalist and imho MF is not really for generalists. It is a perfect fit for what some of us do some of the time but only a few of us have a real need for MF exclusively all of the time. The rest is bragging rights really.

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If you can afford it and it makes sense for your needs, do both Sony FF and Fuji GFX. The new alphaone does some important stuff MF can't do, especially fast and long.

A lot of us shoot FF and GFX. The problem is, once you taste GFX, it is hard to enjoy something else. You have already experienced this.

FF Sony does not have what GFX has in terms of image fidelity (not even close), but it beats GFX in size/weight/focus tracking/action/&long-fast...

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If you can afford it and it makes sense for your needs, do both Sony FF and Fuji GFX. The new alphaone does some important stuff MF can't do, especially fast and long.

A lot of us shoot FF and GFX. The problem is, once you taste GFX, it is hard to enjoy something else. You have already experienced this.

FF Sony does not have what GFX has in terms of image fidelity (not even close),
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My take on relative image fidelity:
  • The GFX cameras with their native lenses are sharper than a7/9x cameras with their native lenses.
  • GFX off-axis sharpness is usually, but not always better.
  • The proportion of real to false detail is higher in the GFX 100x than in the Sony cameras.
  • GFX 100x images with the new firmware are less noisy and have more usable DR.
  • GFX lenses tend to have more even illumination.
  • GFX lenses tend to have fewer aberrations. There are exceptions, like the 80/1.7.
  • GFX cameras with commercial color profiles tend to be slightly less accurate than Sony ones under those conditions. The differences are well within the differences in the tastes of observers.
  • There is an extensive GFX library of color profiles with artistically inaccurate color.
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but it beats GFX in size/weight/focus tracking/action/&long-fast...
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petreluk said:
I have not yet made a leap to MF but if or more likely when I do I will be hanging on to a lot of my smaller-format kit. The smaller-format stuff makes it much easier to have a camera with me on many occasions. I am not a specialist but a generalist and imho MF is not really for generalists. It is a perfect fit for what some of us do some of the time but only a few of us have a real need for MF exclusively all of the time. The rest is bragging rights really.
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The 100S changes a lot of that. It’s barely bigger than an X-T4, the AF is very accurate and usable outside of sports or animals, and it has some small lens options now like the 45, 50, 63 and 80. I’ve been putting the 100S through its paces on a weekend vacation and I’m even more impressed with it than I already was with my first impressions.
 
I was going to say that if you photograph anything that moves or is far away or both, to keep the Sony that you have. However, I just looked at your photos and you seem to never do that so you could sell the rest of your Sony stuff.

Any family gatherings, public events, you might want the Sony for? Have you ever owned a lens over 200mm long that you would want the Sony for?
 
I did the same thing, sold my A7R4 to test 50R, was enough to convince me to upgrade to 100. I had a pair of A9s and it's still one of my favorite cameras.

I would sell your GM lenses and try something like the Tamron 28-200 unless you need the 2.8s.

Then buy 45-100 and see if you really need 32-64, 45 and 45-100. They are all good but chances are you should be able to eliminate at least one of those.

Optimal setup would be A9ii/A1 and GFX100x imo.
 
I probably didn't give you guys enough info. My Flickr feed is neglected and was only ever used for non family / event photos. I use the A9 mostly with the 70-200mm for church (read rock concert) photography but it's been unused for over a year now with the virus plus my recovery from heart bypass surgery last year.

I use my X cameras for my family shots (mostly grandchildren) and travel. My GFX will be used for weddings and portraits which I am tentatively starting to take paid work for. Landscapes will be a mix of X and GFX depending on length of walk.

I like the advice to hang on as I can test my GFX / X for potential Sony A9 replacement soon.

Thanks for comments
 
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petreluk said:
I have not yet made a leap to MF but if or more likely when I do I will be hanging on to a lot of my smaller-format kit. The smaller-format stuff makes it much easier to have a camera with me on many occasions. I am not a specialist but a generalist and imho MF is not really for generalists. It is a perfect fit for what some of us do some of the time but only a few of us have a real need for MF exclusively all of the time. The rest is bragging rights really.
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The 100S changes a lot of that. It’s barely bigger than an X-T4, the AF is very accurate and usable outside of sports or animals, and it has some small lens options now like the 45, 50, 63 and 80. I’ve been putting the 100S through its paces on a weekend vacation and I’m even more impressed with it than I already was with my first impressions.
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Well, it’s barely bigger XT4 just because XT4 is too huge for an APSC camera))

Overall, 100s AF is not usable for sports. Don’t lie to yourself. Matt Granger did a simple test with af-c on walking people - and the results were not good.

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He did a further test where he switched to zone tracking where it improved.
 
Well, of course the 100S can be used for sports! We are so spoiled with our expectations of AF today. It would not be my first choice and would challenge your technique, but maybe that is a good thing...just sayin.

Rod
 
In the 90's I had one fun weekend shooting white water kayaking with my C330 and 80/2.8 and 250/6.3. So, yes, with medium format, it can be done!

I obviously stuck out because a retired gentlemen came over and told me to join the Toronto Camera Club. Unfortunately I never did.
 
I will keep my Sony FE system, because of light weight, speed and cheap lenses.

There are lots of light weight FE lenses, like newly 24 40 50G, 35GM and 50GM.
 
I recently sold my Sony set (A7RII, Loxia 21, FE 35f2.8, FE 55f1.8, Batis 85f1.8) which was nicely compact and light and good lens quality but I never got used to and comfortable with the Sony camera UI.
A GFX set is larger and heavier but for me so much more joy to use. Plus image resolution, DR and Fuji colors.
 
cyberpi1 said:
fcracer said:
petreluk said:
I have not yet made a leap to MF but if or more likely when I do I will be hanging on to a lot of my smaller-format kit. The smaller-format stuff makes it much easier to have a camera with me on many occasions. I am not a specialist but a generalist and imho MF is not really for generalists. It is a perfect fit for what some of us do some of the time but only a few of us have a real need for MF exclusively all of the time. The rest is bragging rights really.
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The 100S changes a lot of that. It’s barely bigger than an X-T4, the AF is very accurate and usable outside of sports or animals, and it has some small lens options now like the 45, 50, 63 and 80. I’ve been putting the 100S through its paces on a weekend vacation and I’m even more impressed with it than I already was with my first impressions.
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Well, it’s barely bigger XT4 just because XT4 is too huge for an APSC camera))

Overall, 100s AF is not usable for sports. Don’t lie to yourself. Matt Granger did a simple test with af-c on walking people - and the results were not good.
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Did you read what I wrote? I specifically said “...outside of sports or animals”. Nobody lying to anyone here. However, I would not say it’s “not usable”, with pre focus, enough opportunities, or with decent depth of field, the 100S is usable, but certainly not ideal, for sports.
 
Paul JN said:
I sold my A7Riv and some unused glass towards my GFX100s and first few lenses (45, 80, 32-64). That was the easy part. Definitely no regrets. I also have some Fuji X for lightweight.

Now I am tempted to sell my A9 and remaining Sony lenses (24-70, 70-200 and 50) to get the 45-100mm and possibly other(s). This I might regret.

Anyone made this leap and regretted it?
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I have both the A7R IV and the GFX 100. For my personal projects, I always end up using the GFX, I love the output it gives me. I have one of the very best 85mm lens with A7R IV, and it still can't come close to GFX. I didn't sell the A7R IV because I need it to do some commercial shoots where I don't want to use the GFX.

But A9 is really fast at tracking and Eye AF is amazing. Also for sports or action shoots, it will help a lot and GFX won't do that good so I think you should keep it.

Maybe sell the A9 and get the A1?
 
The GF lens you have are rather wide. You should hold on to the Sony for the longer lenses you now have. The crop factor is ~0.8, the longest GF lens is 250mm, that works out to be 200mm FF equiv. That's just me worrying about you not having the longer lenses, only you know whether you use them or not though.
 
I've got those long lens bases covered with Fuji X lenses but I need to see if they will suffice with tracking for events before I sell the A9. Don't fancy an A1.
 
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