The Best Way to Carry *Multiple* DSLRs (+Lenses) in the Field

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This is a spinoff to lokatz' post on Carrying D500/D850 with the 500mm PF lens.

Since I don't actually own the 500 PF lens, I decided to make my own thread detailing how I manage to carry multiple lenses (many a lot heavier than the 500 PF) + multiple bodies.

I thought this might be useful to those who similarly carry a lot of gear, and yet want "all of them" to be ready, if needed. I believe this is actually a huge, and very important, topic that warrants its one space. That said, there are four basic choices we each have as to how to carry our gear in the field:
  1. Backpacks;
  2. Shoulder Packs;
  3. Chest- & Side-Holsters;
  4. Slings.
With this preamble in place, what I'm going to write has to do with my actual experience. I own multiple iterations all of these different solutions, and I have deployed each of them in the field, under many different contexts, and so here is my personal take on which is "best," in general. A basic observation of lokatz' underscores my own opinions:
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My two Tenba backpacks also take the D500/850 + 500 PF just fine. But they are backpacks: You have to take them off your back, put them down to the ground or hold them rather awkwardly, unzip them, and take the set out.
For this precise reason, I almost never use backpacks in the field, because you will "blow" more fleeting moments than capture them.

Keep in mind, I have acquired 4 of the finest, most rugged, Tamrac backpacks ever designed (discontinued several years ago, but still the best, most versatile, and most rugged backpacks I have ever personally examined and deployed in the field):

Tamrac 787 Extreme (M.A.S.) Super Photo Backpack
Tamrac 787 Extreme (M.A.S.) Super Photo Backpack

I still have the original label for each one, purchased about a decade ago (shown below is the 787):

Tamrac 787 Extreme (M.A.S.) System
Tamrac 787 Extreme (M.A.S.) System

So, I am not "anti-backpack," per se. I actually love all of my Tamarac packs :D

As a connoisseur, the quality of the materials is superb! In fact no one makes packs like these anymore. (Note: I've also seen Tamrac's "more modern updates" to these packs, but they're flimsy and cheap, by comparison.)

The versatility in the accoutrements of the M.A.S. system is unmatched, as well as the flexibility of their storage options. Even more than a decade later, not a single stitch has come out of any of my 4 packs.

For those who are interested in (what I believe are) the 4 finest backpacks you can buy, even today, these are the ones I've acquired. (You can still get them on eBay, mint, for pretty good deals):
  • Tamrac 787 Extreme (M.A.S.) Super Photo Backpack
  • Tamrac 777 Extreme (M.A.S.) Summit Photo Backpack
  • Tamrac 767 Extreme (M.A.S.) Photo Trail Backpack
  • Tamrac 757 Extreme (M.A.S.) Photo Pack
Each of these has a different sizes/specifications. All this said, I rarely use backpacks at all, anymore. When I do, the size difference of "which of the above four" I decide to use is determined which how much gear I want to bring for that day (or that trip).

All this said, again, IMO backpacks are only useful for "airline travel," or if you plan to walk from Point A ... to Point Z ... without actually using your camera anywhere in between.

If you plan on actually using your photographic gear, at any point in between, then backpacks actually become more of a hindrance than an asset.

The truth is, If you want to use your gear, as you walk, then Shoulder Bags, Chest Harnesses, and Slings become much better options for instant deployment. Again, as lokatz properly observed:
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With a sling, you just rotate it from the back to your belly, unzip, take out the gear and start shooting. Can even keep the sling bag dangling where it is, as it won't really get in the way. That's faster and less messy, certainly for my style of shooting.
Depending on the purpose of my photography, and how diverse I expect it to be, I might only carry a sling.

If more varied, then maybe a sling + a shoulder bag.

If I expect truly multi-dimensional opportunities, then I will carry a sling, a shoulder bag, and a chest & side-holster (always at-the-ready) as I progress.

But in no instance, if I actually want to take photographs as I'm hiking, will I be deploying a backpack. I don't care what brand you use, the very nature of a backpack is an impediment to instant deployment.

Here are some examples of how I usually "equip myself" to take photographs, as I hike, if impromptu "speed of deployment" is required. The available ranges vary from 15mm landscapes to 800mm (or more) for small birds. The key to these descriptions is every one of my cameras/lenses is instantly deployable (or pretty close to it):

THE BASICS for 3 BODIES/LENSES: (Cotton Carrier dual holster, chest/side ... plus the Magpul MS4 Sling)
THE BASICS for 3 BODIES/LENSES: (Cotton Carrier dual holster, chest/side ... plus the Magpul MS4 Sling)

THE WORKS: 3 BODIES, 8 LENSES: (RRS Tripod + Landscape setup | Side Bag + Chest Harness (portrait options) | Dual Slings supporting the D5 + 800mm Nikon for extreme telephoto)
THE WORKS: 3 BODIES, 8 LENSES: (RRS Tripod + Landscape setup | Side Bag + Chest Harness (portrait options) | Dual Slings supporting the D5 + 800mm Nikon for extreme telephoto)

Note: When I carry smaller lenses, I only use one sling. However, if I deploy super telephoto lenses, I use two slings for each lens:

SUPER-TELEPHOTO ONLY: Nikon D500 + 400 FL ED (under right arm) + Nikon D5 + 800 FL ED (under left arm)
SUPER-TELEPHOTO ONLY: Nikon D500 + 400 FL ED (under right arm) + Nikon D5 + 800 FL ED (under left arm)

The reason why I use two slings, for each lens, is to stack "probability" in my favor. The truth is, at any moment, "a single sling" can fail. With the 800 + D5, "failure" means $23,000 of my investments are hitting the ground :-O

By deploying two slings, for each lens, I significantly lower the probability for failure and thus monetary setback :-|

To accomplish the above, I deploy the
Of the two of these, the Black Rapid Sling has never failed me once; while the Magpul Sling has failed on a few occasions (it requires a lot of maintenance).

COMBINED, however, I have never had a single failure. Again, the probability of "two" slings failing (at the exact same time) is almost zero.

The trouble is, very few "lens foot" manufacturers offer lens feet, with TWO distinct holes, to allow for deployment of BOTH slings at the same time.

As far as I know, only RRS offers the LCF 17 Lens Foot, for both the 400 and 800mm lenses. Unfortunately, this important accessory is now discontinued:. However, they are still available from 3rd Party Vendors (eBay).

Here are the details:

The RRS LCF 17 Lens Foot offers ports for TWO DIFFERENT sling types.
The RRS LCF 17 Lens Foot offers ports for TWO DIFFERENT sling types.

As far as I know, no other lens foot manufacturer offers this combination
As far as I know, no other lens foot manufacturer offers this combination

While all other lens feet companies offer "one" sling option, the RRS LCF 17 Lens Foot allows for two slings to be deployed simultaneously, which is huge for both stability as well as peace of mind.

I guess I could go on forever, but in closing, the bottom line is "backpacks" have their uses, but they're really only for "hauling gear" (not actually using gear).

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The truth is, If you want to use your gear, as you walk, then Shoulder Bags, Chest Harnesses, and Slings become much better options for instant deployment. Again, as lokatz properly observed:
With a sling, you just rotate it from the back to your belly, unzip, take out the gear and start shooting. Can even keep the sling bag dangling where it is, as it won't really get in the way. That's faster and less messy, certainly for my style of shooting.
Depending on the purpose of my photography, and how diverse I expect it to be, I might only carry a sling.

If more varied, then maybe a sling + a shoulder bag.

If I expect truly multi-dimensional opportunities, then I will carry a sling, a shoulder bag, and a chest & side-holster (always at-the-ready) as I progress.

But in no instance, if I actually want to take photographs as I'm hiking, will I be deploying a backpack. I don't care what brand you use, the very nature of a backpack is an impediment to instant deployment.

Here are some examples of how I usually "equip myself" to take photographs, as I hike, if impromptu "speed of deployment" is required. The available ranges vary from 15mm landscapes to 800mm (or more) for small birds. The key to these descriptions is every one of my cameras/lenses is instantly deployable (or pretty close to it):

Note: When I carry smaller lenses, I only use one sling. However, if I deploy super telephoto lenses, I use two slings for each lens:

SUPER-TELEPHOTO ONLY: Nikon D500 + 400 FL ED (under right arm) + Nikon D5 + 800 FL ED (under left arm)
SUPER-TELEPHOTO ONLY: Nikon D500 + 400 FL ED (under right arm) + Nikon D5 + 800 FL ED (under left arm)

The reason why I use two slings, for each lens, is to stack "probability" in my favor. The truth is, at any moment, "a single sling" can fail. With the 800 + D5, "failure" means $23,000 of my investments are hitting the ground :-O

By deploying two slings, for each lens, I significantly lower the probability for failure and thus monetary setback :-|

To accomplish the above, I deploy the
Of the two of these, the Black Rapid Sling has never failed me once; while the Magpul Sling has failed on a few occasions (it requires a lot of maintenance).

COMBINED, however, I have never had a single failure. Again, the probability of "two" slings failing (at the exact same time) is almost zero.

The trouble is, very few "lens foot" manufacturers offer lens feet, with TWO distinct holes, to allow for deployment of BOTH slings at the same time.

As far as I know, only RRS offers the LCF 17 Lens Foot, for both the 400 and 800mm lenses. Unfortunately, this important accessory is now discontinued:. However, they are still available from 3rd Party Vendors (eBay).

Here are the details:

The RRS LCF 17 Lens Foot offers ports for TWO DIFFERENT sling types.
The RRS LCF 17 Lens Foot offers ports for TWO DIFFERENT sling types.

As far as I know, no other lens foot manufacturer offers this combination
As far as I know, no other lens foot manufacturer offers this combination

While all other lens feet companies offer "one" sling option, the RRS LCF 17 Lens Foot allows for two slings to be deployed simultaneously, which is huge for both stability as well as peace of mind.
Those slings are neat. I just rigged up my own straps with buckles for my 800 5.6 AIS. I don't trust the old threads on the lens feet. Unless I could go all the way through and put nuts and washers on the other side. You use 2 there so there is insurance.

I use the riveted square rings on the lens bodies for the straps for my 600 F4 AI and 800 5.6 AIS I think they are much heavier than the modern ones. This keeps my foot plate free to pop it on the mono pod in a "hurry". I can also hoist it up to try for one or 2 handheld surprises. (then get a shoulder massage!). I need to put a pad on it so I don't saw off my shoulder!

Good Luck!!

vsk
 
Wow. The 400 and 800 at the same time. All I can say is...you are hardcore.
When I was younger and fitter, I used to carry at Nikon 300mm f2.8 AF-S, Nikon 500mm f4 AF-I, and Nikon 800mm f5.6 Manual focus. Lenses have become much lighter since this photo was taken in the 1990's. My Nikon 800mm f5.6 MF is 6KG. I think the latest Nikon 800mm f5.6 AF-S is 4,590 g.



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Those slings are neat. I just rigged up my own straps with buckles for my 800 5.6 AIS. I don't trust the old threads on the lens feet. Unless I could go all the way through and put nuts and washers on the other side. You use 2 there so there is insurance.
Cheers.
I use the riveted square rings on the lens bodies for the straps for my 600 F4 AI and 800 5.6 AIS I think they are much heavier than the modern ones. This keeps my foot plate free to pop it on the mono pod in a "hurry". I can also hoist it up to try for one or 2 handheld surprises. (then get a shoulder massage!). I need to put a pad on it so I don't saw off my shoulder!

Good Luck!!

vsk
Very cool. Post photos, if you get the chance :)

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When I was younger and fitter, I used to carry at Nikon 300mm f2.8 AF-S, Nikon 500mm f4 AF-I, and Nikon 800mm f5.6 Manual focus. Lenses have become much lighter since this photo was taken in the 1990's. My Nikon 800mm f5.6 MF is 6KG. I think the latest Nikon 800mm f5.6 AF-S is 4,590 g.

Dedication!

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Wow. The 400 and 800 at the same time. All I can say is...you are hardcore.
When I was younger and fitter, I used to carry at Nikon 300mm f2.8 AF-S, Nikon 500mm f4 AF-I, and Nikon 800mm f5.6 Manual focus. Lenses have become much lighter since this photo was taken in the 1990's. My Nikon 800mm f5.6 MF is 6KG. I think the latest Nikon 800mm f5.6 AF-S is 4,590 g.

How’s the back holding up these days now you are... less younger ???
 
Wow. The 400 and 800 at the same time. All I can say is...you are hardcore.
When I was younger and fitter, I used to carry at Nikon 300mm f2.8 AF-S, Nikon 500mm f4 AF-I, and Nikon 800mm f5.6 Manual focus. Lenses have become much lighter since this photo was taken in the 1990's. My Nikon 800mm f5.6 MF is 6KG. I think the latest Nikon 800mm f5.6 AF-S is 4,590 g.

How’s the back holding up these days now you are... less younger ???
While I admire Gearsau's dedication, the carrying methods he's deploying, above, are not "immediately available" for use.

My favorite FULL, multi-dimensional wildlife combo is:
  • D5 + 800 FL ED on sling, under left arm;
  • D500 + 400 FL ED (600mm) on sling, under right arm;
  • D850 + 300 PF + 1x TC (420mm) on chest holster;
  • Z7 + Zeiss 25mm f/2.8 Distagon T* on hip holster;
  • Backpack w/ misc., non-essential lenses/accessories ... on back ... if necessary.
My favorite "light" multi-dimensional combo is:
  • D500 + 400 FL ED + 2x TC (800mm) on sling, under right arm;
  • D850 + 300 PF + 1x TC on (420mm) chest holster;
  • Z7 + Zeiss 25mm f/2.8 Distagon T* on hip holster
"Macro Only" days require 3 Cameras / 5 lenses:
  • D500 + 200 f/4D on tripod, over shoulder;
  • Z7 + Leica APO (or Voigtländer APO) on chest holster;
  • D850 + 100mm Laowa 2x APO on hip holster;
  • Side-Pouch w/ Laowa 15mm 1:1, and Laowa 25mm 2.5x to 5x insidw ...
On and on the obsession goes ...

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Wow. The 400 and 800 at the same time. All I can say is...you are hardcore.
When I was younger and fitter, I used to carry at Nikon 300mm f2.8 AF-S, Nikon 500mm f4 AF-I, and Nikon 800mm f5.6 Manual focus. Lenses have become much lighter since this photo was taken in the 1990's. My Nikon 800mm f5.6 MF is 6KG. I think the latest Nikon 800mm f5.6 AF-S is 4,590 g.

How’s the back holding up these days now you are... less younger ???
Back is great. I haven't shot motorsport since 2010. Still have all the gear. Haven't purchased anything for a few years. Last lens that I purchased was a Nikon 24-70mm f2.8 ( not the latest one ). Haven't taken a photo for a year or two either. The wallet is much healthier. All the best from Down Under.


Regards Peter
 
In you macro configuration, surely you could find some place for the Sigma 40 mm f1.4 ART lens???!!
 
In you macro configuration, surely you could find some place for the Sigma 40 mm f1.4 ART lens???!!
I have a lot of lenses already :)

Sincerely curious though, as somewhat of a "macro junkie" myself (I've owned over 30 macro lenses, and currently have 12 in my gun safe now), what specific advantage to you feel the Sigma 40 offers? Is it the 1.4 aperture? (I've owned the Sigma 180 f/2.8 in both Canon and Nikon mounts.)

Right now, I have the following:
  • Nikkor 200 f/4
  • Irix 150 f/2.8
  • Voigtländer 125 f/2.5 APO
  • Laowa 100 2x APO (F-Mount and Z-Mount)
  • Leica 100 APO Macro Elmarit (+ Elpro + 2x APO Extender
  • Voigtländer 65 f/2 APO
  • Zeiss Makro Planar f/2
  • Laowa 25mm 2.5 to 5x (F-Mount and Z-Mount)
  • Zeiss 25 mm f/2.8 (1:4)
  • Laowa 15mm f/4 1:1 (F-Mount)
What do you find you enjoy shooting with the Sigma 40?

I actually use the Nikkor 105 f/1.5E w/ extension tubes, precisely because of the 1.4 aperture. The 40 mm of the Sigma would give me more depth of field, which kind of negates the effectiveness of the 1.4 aperture. By contrast, the 105 f/1.4E I create macros with greater blur than possible with 2.8 apertures, and just as sharp, as the 105E is incredibly short wide open.

Curious to learn why you're passionate about the Sigma :)
 
Wow. The 400 and 800 at the same time. All I can say is...you are hardcore.
When I was younger and fitter, I used to carry at Nikon 300mm f2.8 AF-S, Nikon 500mm f4 AF-I, and Nikon 800mm f5.6 Manual focus. Lenses have become much lighter since this photo was taken in the 1990's. My Nikon 800mm f5.6 MF is 6KG. I think the latest Nikon 800mm f5.6 AF-S is 4,590 g.

How’s the back holding up these days now you are... less younger ???
While I admire Gearsau's dedication, the carrying methods he's deploying, above, are not "immediately available" for use.

My favorite FULL, multi-dimensional wildlife combo is:
  • D5 + 800 FL ED on sling, under left arm;
  • D500 + 400 FL ED (600mm) on sling, under right arm;
  • D850 + 300 PF + 1x TC (420mm) on chest holster;
  • Z7 + Zeiss 25mm f/2.8 Distagon T* on hip holster;
  • Backpack w/ misc., non-essential lenses/accessories ... on back ... if necessary.
My favorite "light" multi-dimensional combo is:
  • D500 + 400 FL ED + 2x TC (800mm) on sling, under right arm;
  • D850 + 300 PF + 1x TC on (420mm) chest holster;
  • Z7 + Zeiss 25mm f/2.8 Distagon T* on hip holster
"Macro Only" days require 3 Cameras / 5 lenses:
  • D500 + 200 f/4D on tripod, over shoulder;
  • Z7 + Leica APO (or Voigtländer APO) on chest holster;
  • D850 + 100mm Laowa 2x APO on hip holster;
  • Side-Pouch w/ Laowa 15mm 1:1, and Laowa 25mm 2.5x to 5x insidw ...
On and on the obsession goes ...
There are worse obsessions to have, although there are also less expensive ones, but we love what we love. Love your pics and posts, In the last pic of you, you look like you are carrying 2 rocket launchers.
 
I too am somewhat of a macro lens addict. So far I have the three nikons, the 60mm, 105mm and the venerable 200mm. Also the old 35-70 f2.8 push-pull macro capable lens.

I love the 105 and have also used the 60 quite a bit.

I just recently bought the 40mm sigma 1.4 ART for four reasons: all the reviews confirm it is insanely sharp, even at 1.4, has excellent bokeh, no distortion to speak of and I found a new USA version for a 15% discounted price. My use so far has confirmed the sharpness claims. I will take it on the next extended three week backcountry trip to southern utah soon. No doubt I will work out the best body/subject combinations during that excursion.

I will have a more complete report by the end of May. Will try it on the D500, D810 and D5.
 
I actually use the Nikkor 105 f/1.5E w/ extension tubes, precisely because of the 1.4 aperture. The 40 mm of the Sigma would give me more depth of field, which kind of negates the effectiveness of the 1.4 aperture. By contrast, the 105 f/1.4E I create macros with greater blur than possible with 2.8 apertures, and just as sharp, as the 105E is incredibly short wide open.
Hey RazorSharp Wide Open...

What extension tube do you use with the 105 1.4E ? I just got one and would love to try some macro with it super-shallow.

... because I don't have enough already!!

Many Happy Friday Thanks !!

vsk
 
There are worse obsessions to have, although there are also less expensive ones, but we love what we love. Love your pics and posts, In the last pic of you, you look like you are carrying 2 rocket launchers.
Very true, it's the combination of love of nature + quest to perfect the craft which makes us gear heads :)


Thanks for the nice compliment!

And ... lol ... I actually call these two lenses "my rocket launchers" ... too funny! :D

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Hey RazorSharp Wide Open...

What extension tube do you use with the 105 1.4E ? I just got one and would love to try some macro with it super-shallow.
I use the Kenko Ext. Tubes for F-Mount. Specifically, while I have experimented with all possible combinations, the smallest tube is the one I deployed most. The possible combinations (according to Cambridge Colors) are as follows , along w/ the corresponding Reproduction Ratios:
  • 105 f/1.4E + 12mm = .24x (665.5 mm MFD)
  • 105 f/1.4E + 20mm = .32x (571.3 mm MFD)
  • 105 f/1.4E + 36mm = .43x (497.2 mm MFD)
  • 105 f/1.4E + 48mm = .59x (450.5 mm MFD)
  • 105 f/1.4E + 56mm = .66x (437.8 mm MFD)
My main purpose in doing this is to increase "dreamy flower photography." With all three tubes (56mm) I achieved .66x magnification. Typically, for most flowers, I don't need to be any more than 1:4, so just the simple and smallest (12mm) tube allows me to approach the subject much closer, and increase the RR level to more optimal abilities than the native lens itself.

The main advantage the 105 f/1.4E ED portrait lens has is (obviously) the f/1.4 aperture, combined with being much-much sharper wide-open than most macro lenses typically are ... which creates a unique separation, look and "3-D Pop" ...

Here are some examples:

Trumpet Vine (Campsis radicans)
Trumpet Vine (Campsis radicans)

Summer Holly (Comarostaphylis d. planifolia)
Summer Holly (Comarostaphylis d. planifolia)

Showy Penstamon (Penstemon spectabilis)
Showy Penstamon (Penstemon spectabilis)

Western Columbine (Aquilegia formosa)
Western Columbine (Aquilegia formosa)

White Prickly Poppy (Argemone albiflora spp.)
White Prickly Poppy (Argemone albiflora spp.)

Golden Currant Berries (Ribes aureum)
Golden Currant Berries (Ribes aureum)

Winecup Clarkias (Clarkia purpurea)
Winecup Clarkias (Clarkia purpurea)

Farewell-to-Spring (Clarkia sp.)
Farewell-to-Spring (Clarkia sp.)

Coral Bells (Heuchera sp.)
Coral Bells (Heuchera sp.)

California Nightshade (Solanum wallacei)
California Nightshade (Solanum wallacei)

Hummingbird Sage (Salvia spathacea)
Hummingbird Sage (Salvia spathacea)

I could go on forever :)

... because I don't have enough already!!
:-D

Many Happy Friday Thanks !!

vsk
You too, enjoy your weekend!

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Hey RazorSharp Wide Open...

What extension tube do you use with the 105 1.4E ? I just got one and would love to try some macro with it super-shallow.
I use the Kenko Ext. Tubes for F-Mount. Specifically, while I have experimented with all possible combinations, the smallest tube is the one I deployed most. The possible combinations (according to Cambridge Colors) are as follows , along w/ the corresponding Reproduction Ratios:
  • 105 f/1.4E + 12mm = .24x (665.5 mm MFD)
  • 105 f/1.4E + 20mm = .32x (571.3 mm MFD)
  • 105 f/1.4E + 36mm = .43x (497.2 mm MFD)
  • 105 f/1.4E + 48mm = .59x (450.5 mm MFD)
  • 105 f/1.4E + 56mm = .66x (437.8 mm MFD)
My main purpose in doing this is to increase "dreamy flower photography." With all three tubes (56mm) I achieved .66x magnification. Typically, for most flowers, I don't need to be any more than 1:4, so just the simple and smallest (12mm) tube allows me to approach the subject much closer, and increase the RR level to more optimal abilities than the native lens itself.

The main advantage the 105 f/1.4E ED portrait lens has is (obviously) the f/1.4 aperture, combined with being much-much sharper wide-open than most macro lenses typically are ... which creates a unique separation, look and "3-D Pop" ...
Here are some examples:

I could go on forever :)
... because I don't have enough already!!
:-D
Many Happy Friday Thanks !!

vsk
You too, enjoy your weekend!
That's great ! Thanks so much!

vsk
 
In you macro configuration, surely you could find some place for the Sigma 40 mm f1.4 ART lens???!!
I have a lot of lenses already :)

Sincerely curious though, as somewhat of a "macro junkie" myself (I've owned over 30 macro lenses, and currently have 12 in my gun safe now), what specific advantage to you feel the Sigma 40 offers? Is it the 1.4 aperture? (I've owned the Sigma 180 f/2.8 in both Canon and Nikon mounts.)

Right now, I have the following:
  • Nikkor 200 f/4
  • Irix 150 f/2.8
  • Voigtländer 125 f/2.5 APO
  • Laowa 100 2x APO (F-Mount and Z-Mount)
  • Leica 100 APO Macro Elmarit (+ Elpro + 2x APO Extender
  • Voigtländer 65 f/2 APO
  • Zeiss Makro Planar f/2
  • Laowa 25mm 2.5 to 5x (F-Mount and Z-Mount)
  • Zeiss 25 mm f/2.8 (1:4)
  • Laowa 15mm f/4 1:1 (F-Mount)
What do you find you enjoy shooting with the Sigma 40?

I actually use the Nikkor 105 f/1.5E w/ extension tubes, precisely because of the 1.4 aperture. The 40 mm of the Sigma would give me more depth of field, which kind of negates the effectiveness of the 1.4 aperture. By contrast, the 105 f/1.4E I create macros with greater blur than possible with 2.8 apertures, and just as sharp, as the 105E is incredibly short wide open.

Curious to learn why you're passionate about the Sigma :)
I also have the Voigtlander 125/2.5 AIS and have had visions of a Leica 100/2.8 APO. Between the two, I understand the Voigt to perform best in its macro role, where the Leica has the edge for more distant subjects. For now, I’ll just have to dream, as I don’t have the deep pockets others may have, though I do have a spouse who supports my habits. :) (I’ve also looked at the Zeiss 135/2 APO, but it’s too close in FL and any advantages it may have are minimal, anyway.)

When I’m out in nature, I’ll carry my Z7 + 125/2.5 and D850 + 300/4 PF (+ optional TC 1.4 III), both on crossing slings and maybe my Zeiss 2.5/2 ZF.2 and Voigt 21/1.4 VM in an ONA Bowery bag hanging behind my hip. That’s two adapters (FTZ and Novoflex), but not too inconvenient since my MF shots are more landscape for which I’ve got plenty of time to set up. I rarely use a tripod... only have a carbon fiber travel set up with a gimbal, though I may begin to use it more since I got the PF.

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I also have the Voigtlander 125/2.5 AIS and have had visions of a Leica 100/2.8 APO. Between the two, I understand the Voigt to perform best in its macro role, where the Leica has the edge for more distant subjects. For now, I’ll just have to dream, as I don’t have the deep pockets others may have, though I do have a spouse who supports my habits. :) (I’ve also looked at the Zeiss 135/2 APO, but it’s too close in FL and any advantages it may have are minimal, anyway.)
Hi there, I see we share a lot of the same taste In lenses :)

I have actually compared the Voigtländer APO and the Leica APO quite extensively, under a variety of unique conditions. Since this is a digression from the original topic, I'll post a few comparison photos in a new thread shortly.

The 135 APO is a great piece of glass, but I have bought and sold it 4x, 1) because I almost never use it, and 2) because as soon as I sell it I miss it, and vice versa :)
When I’m out in nature, I’ll carry my Z7 + 125/2.5 and D850 + 300/4 PF (+ optional TC 1.4 III), both on crossing slings and maybe my Zeiss 2.5/2 ZF.2 and Voigt 21/1.4 VM in an ONA Bowery bag hanging behind my hip. That’s two adapters (FTZ and Novoflex), but not too inconvenient since my MF shots are more landscape for which I’ve got plenty of time to set up. I rarely use a tripod... only have a carbon fiber travel set up with a gimbal, though I may begin to use it more since I got the PF.
Wow, we really do have the same taste in glass :-O

With all the glass I have, when I went to Thailand, I only brought one camera and three lenses, four pieces total: 1) the D850, 2) the 300 PF, 3) the Voigtländer 125, and 3) the Zeiss 21 for landscape.

Although there are certain refinements that that the Voigtländer and Leica have, which most other macro lenses do not, that are unique to each optic, I believe the Laowa 100mm 2x APO to be a more overall useful, versatile macro lens, especially if you're into arthropods.

For flowers and such, the Voigtländer and Leica each offer unique attributes, which I will try to detail on a separate thread topic.

Thanks for posting!
 

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