***March 14, 2021-March 21, 2021 Weekly Show, Tell, and Critique***

Pi lover said:

My youngest sons girlfriends mom has decided she should move in with them and they should get a house that meets her requirements. So today my wife, son and I took a couple hour trip to look at "the dream". By the way her mom doesn't work. Daughter and mom saw the place yesterday.

It looks like a lovely place to have a cottage (which is what it's been used for the last few years) and has deeded lake access. As a frequent drive for my son to get to work, and so many other ways it's a good place for some one else.

It will take a few days but I expect my son to tell me this wasn't to be for them.

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66GTO said:

Your dogs look happy Courtney!

My yellow lab Barney passed away last May at 13. I will go to the shelters when they are opened again to look for another...

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Pi lover said:

66GTO said:

Your dogs look happy Courtney!

My yellow lab Barney passed away last May at 13. I will go to the shelters when they are opened again to look for another...

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I'm sorry to hear about Barney passing.

Between these 2 Bear who has the red tag on her neck wants to be with me all the time. The brother Teddy has times he likes to lean/ stand on us but likes to be independent more. Like a box of chocolate on Forest Gump you never know what you're going to get.

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Pi lover said:

My youngest sons girlfriends mom has decided she should move in with them and they should get a house that meets her requirements. So today my wife, son and I took a couple hour trip to look at "the dream". By the way her mom doesn't work. Daughter and mom saw the place yesterday.

It looks like a lovely place to have a cottage (which is what it's been used for the last few years) and has deeded lake access. As a frequent drive for my son to get to work, and so many other ways it's a good place for some one else.

It will take a few days but I expect my son to tell me this wasn't to be for them.

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I hope they are able to find a place that works for them! I also hope having her mother live with them doesn’t drive a wedge between your son and his girlfriend. That sounds like it would be a frustrating situation. I don’t know her reasons for not working, but if she’s freeloading without contributing any money, they have my sympathies. That would grate on anyone’s nerves.

My goodness, I don’t normally chime in like this, I’m sorry .

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Pi lover said:

Evenstar606 said:

Pi lover said:

My youngest sons girlfriends mom has decided she should move in with them and they should get a house that meets her requirements. So today my wife, son and I took a couple hour trip to look at "the dream". By the way her mom doesn't work. Daughter and mom saw the place yesterday.

It looks like a lovely place to have a cottage (which is what it's been used for the last few years) and has deeded lake access. As a frequent drive for my son to get to work, and so many other ways it's a good place for some one else.

It will take a few days but I expect my son to tell me this wasn't to be for them.

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I hope they are able to find a place that works for them! I also hope having her mother live with them doesn’t drive a wedge between your son and his girlfriend. That sounds like it would be a frustrating situation. I don’t know her reasons for not working, but if she’s freeloading without contributing any money, they have my sympathies. That would grate on anyone’s nerves.

My goodness, I don’t normally chime in like this, I’m sorry .

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You are just picking up on how I feel since this is what I see. And I'm going by what I've been told which is only part of what is really going on.

There are 5 children in the family from 1 year old to 14 and living in the woods would be a huge change from city life for them. Better or worse? It would turn out differently for all the kids.

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Birddogman said:

Oh my, Grant!

A pretty house to my eye, but, as a woods dweller, I can tell you that it’s not for everyone - particularly people moving out of a city, or even suburbs. I couldn’t live in a city and the inverse may be true for the young couple. A very different lifestyle with lots of upsides, but plenty of downsides too.

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Birddogman said:

Much more to the point, the MIL sounds like a disaster for the young couple. Although one has no control over one’s adult children (such as my deceased daughter), a parent will try nonetheless to help. Hopefully, your son will at least listen to your thoughts.Sadly, even if the house problem is solved, the mooching MIL problem remains. Isn’t there an old saying that “You can pick your friends, but you can’t pick your relatives.”

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Birddogman said:

On a lighter side, I got a new rig from Duluth Trading for the dogs. Maybe helpful for you, too. Normally, with just a regular seat cover, the back of my truck gets coated with muck, briars, dog hair, etc. Now it is completely protected.

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Pi lover said:

Bill Borne said:

Pi lover said:

My youngest sons girlfriends mom has decided she should move in with them and they should get a house that meets her requirements.

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Who, sounds like she will be running their lives. A recipe for disaster If you ask me?

Doesen't work? So will sponge off them???

I feel Very Sorry for them!!!

I hpe they don't end up breaking up cause of her?

Or Am I all wrong???

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You've the got the idea just fine Bill. The pattern is to get someone else to provide It never lasts long until she's not happy though. It reminds me of the old joke "I'm not happy". The response is "... and which one of the dwarves are you ? ".

Grant.

Pi lover said:

Pi lover said:

So today my wife, son and I took a couple hour trip to look at "the dream". By the way her mom doesn't work. Daughter and mom saw the place yesterday.

It looks like a lovely place to have a cottage (which is what it's been used for the last few years) and has deeded lake access. As a frequent drive for my son to get to work, and so many other ways it's a good place for some one else.

It will take a few days but I expect my son to tell me this wasn't to be for them.

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Bill Borne said:

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I think your daughter in law has to put her foot down and tell her mother she is not gonna take it anymore. Once she moves in with them it's only gonna get much worse with her running the kids lives! Till something happens

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Dak on cam said:

Bill Borne said:

Pi lover said:

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I think your daughter in law has to put her foot down and tell her mother she is not gonna take it anymore. Once she moves in with them it's only gonna get much worse with her running the kids lives! Till something happens

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Well, getting rid of a potentially meddling mother on the advice of a meddling father-in-law... you see the irony in that approach?

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Dak on cam said:

It's a constellation that experience shows to have a tendency of ending up problematically, but it still is the responsibility of everybody involved to make it work. Or not. In the end, you cannot make the life choices for others. Particularly not as the parent of one.

The problem with a remote location to move to together is that it's much easier in the city (well, COVID be gone) to lead an independent life with independent interests and friends. Considerations are different with an incapacitated parent: then the independence is not much of a consideration, but accessibility of medical and care professionals may still make a difference.

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Dak on cam said:

Bill Borne said:

Pi lover said:

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I think your daughter in law has to put her foot down and tell her mother she is not gonna take it anymore. Once she moves in with them it's only gonna get much worse with her running the kids lives! Till something happens

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Well, getting rid of a potentially meddling mother on the advice of a meddling father-in-law... you see the irony in that approach?

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Dak on cam said:

It's a constellation that experience shows to have a tendency of ending up problematically, but it still is the responsibility of everybody involved to make it work. Or not. In the end, you cannot make the life choices for others. Particularly not as the parent of one.

The problem with a remote location to move to together is that it's much easier in the city (well, COVID be gone) to lead an independent life with independent interests and friends. Considerations are different with an incapacitated parent: then the independence is not much of a consideration, but accessibility of medical and care professionals may still make a difference.

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Dak on cam said:

Birddogman said:

Dak on cam said:

Birddogman said:

I can fully understand and support suicide by someone with no quality of life due to an incurable, terminal illness. Otherwise, not so much.

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It's sort of going out on a limb calling people collectively names because you don't understand them and would likely, given your history and determination (which is a result of your personal body chemistry and nothing that you'd be in control of), come to different conclusions and actions given their current situation. Not that you are likely to end up in the same situation because of your different predisposition.

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Fair enough, Dak - we are all different, products of our life experiences; and see the world differently, which is a Very Good Thing as long as we are not actively harming others. If you've been around someone who deliberately caused grievous harm and then avoided having to face responsibility for any of it by committing suicide, you might feel differently.

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Dak on cam said:

Dak on cam said:

Birddogman said:

Dak on cam said:

Birddogman said:

I can fully understand and support suicide by someone with no quality of life due to an incurable, terminal illness. Otherwise, not so much.

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It's sort of going out on a limb calling people collectively names because you don't understand them and would likely, given your history and determination (which is a result of your personal body chemistry and nothing that you'd be in control of), come to different conclusions and actions given their current situation. Not that you are likely to end up in the same situation because of your different predisposition.

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Fair enough, Dak - we are all different, products of our life experiences; and see the world differently, which is a Very Good Thing as long as we are not actively harming others. If you've been around someone who deliberately caused grievous harm and then avoided having to face responsibility for any of it by committing suicide, you might feel differently.

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Or not. My grandfather was [...]

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And I wish this rather personal story from my past would have remained what I have to think of in respect to this topic.

Sadly, two days ago, in a scenic landscape without breathing things my brother finally found my nephew after days of frantic search. He had been twenty-six, just got a PhD position and apparently had stopped taking anti-depressants for months, judging from diary entries and leftover packages.

I would not pick "Oh my! The loonies mess things up for everyone yet again." as his epitaph even though his choice will definitely have permanent repercussions for the living, and most heavily so for his parents and siblings.

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Evenstar606 said:

Dak on cam said:

Dak on cam said:

Birddogman said:

Dak on cam said:

Birddogman said:

I can fully understand and support suicide by someone with no quality of life due to an incurable, terminal illness. Otherwise, not so much.

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It's sort of going out on a limb calling people collectively names because you don't understand them and would likely, given your history and determination (which is a result of your personal body chemistry and nothing that you'd be in control of), come to different conclusions and actions given their current situation. Not that you are likely to end up in the same situation because of your different predisposition.

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Fair enough, Dak - we are all different, products of our life experiences; and see the world differently, which is a Very Good Thing as long as we are not actively harming others. If you've been around someone who deliberately caused grievous harm and then avoided having to face responsibility for any of it by committing suicide, you might feel differently.

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Or not. My grandfather was [...]

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And I wish this rather personal story from my past would have remained what I have to think of in respect to this topic.

Sadly, two days ago, in a scenic landscape without breathing things my brother finally found my nephew after days of frantic search. He had been twenty-six, just got a PhD position and apparently had stopped taking anti-depressants for months, judging from diary entries and leftover packages.

I would not pick "Oh my! The loonies mess things up for everyone yet again." as his epitaph even though his choice will definitely have permanent repercussions for the living, and most heavily so for his parents and siblings.

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I’m so sorry, Dak. For him and for those he left behind.

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