Free Panasonic SilkyPix worth the trouble?

Guy Parsons said:

spike29 said:

I run several test and dxoPL keeps more image visual then SP when straigtend and corrected.

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Yet to compare that, In Silkypix the combination of fiddling with lens correction and Crop (previously called Trim) extending the crop outside the normal frame allows quite a larger frame with some cameras.

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Don't know about that , i take it as true.

What i do find that the manual horizontal shift and angle shift does give sometimes better result then the viewpoint results aldoh using the "control lines" and fine tune sliders it's much easier to come close or on par.

i do find Silkypix worth the trouble of learning, certainly for the Japanese camera's as Fuji and Panasonic.

DxO PL is my main program and it's developing towards a fullblown editor application with all kinds of extra aids/features.

So Silkypix will be only used as reverence app and for play and fun that's why i don't buy the full payload and wait for a panasonic only for 38 euro or so. It's shadow (landscape) color cast recovery/adjustment and other color tools are very interesting but i learned to work with the tools of DxO in deep matter and it can cope with most of my things i need very well.

Guy Parsons said:

Carol T said:

Hope you have a good day!

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A good day so far, relaxing now after a day's work bringing back to usefulness a small model-making metal lathe that I've owned for over 50 years. More to do there, beats painting the outside of the house like I should be doing.

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Glad you are having a good day!

Guy Parsons said:

Meanwhile, yes sliders vary things much more gently than Curves where you have to be ultra careful and put plenty of pins in place so unwanted bulges in the curves are better controlled.

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Yes, pretty tedious and hard to control, for me anyhow.

Guy Parsons said:

I have started to get serious after many years delay to get better re-acquainted with Silkypix, lots to learn and re-learn.

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I feel a bit bad that I set you to doing so much work. I do appreciate all the useful tips and advice though!

Guy Parsons said:

What I've found so far is that the Help manual that is installed with SE V8 is 100 times more readable than the one that installs with V10 Pro.

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I *have* read through parts of the manuals of both SE V8 and V10 (regular, not Pro). I kind of do a combination of poking about and consulting with the manual.

Guy Parsons said:

For SE V8 Section 5 re Controls explains those little icons on the right of the window, those are normally hidden in the drop-downs in the top line menus at View-Sub Controls. Online that same page is at https://www.isl.co.jp/SILKYPIX/english/p/product/manual/man0005.html

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Yes, I went through all the little icons. Many of them work in interesting ways that are unusual to me. Ichikawa definitely follows its own drummer, lol.

Guy Parsons said:

So I've paused now to read the SE V8 manual to get a better handle on my V10 Pro manual.

One pain is that if I have V10 open then I can't start SE V8 until I close V10. So lots of swapping is happening, open-close-open-close-open-close ad nauseum.

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Yes, I downloaded a trial version of V10 (non-Pro) to compare with SE V8, and I found that I could not open at the same time. I guess they use some of the same libraries or something.

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I'll do some online searching re highlight recovery as it is done differently, something that I need to re-learn.

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I actually tried Photolab again (more in a reply below), and it gives the same sharpness and I find it more user-friendly. However, I still am interested in SP because of things like possibly better highlight recovery and other subtle things.

spike29 said:

Late to the party and i think all is said and djscused.

I am a panasonic user and bought sp5pro for my fz200 and later used it for my g85.

My experience, and i was first using a old LR4 which i hated for it's automated search every time i stuck a usb in my pc, is a learning curve in developing it self not in Silkypics itself.

Manual of sp5pro was very helpfull in learning what to do and how things worked. Because English isn't my native language i have less trouble with there crooked english.

When i got my G85 i stumbled on the free Dx0 optic pro v10 essential and there optical module is a God, instant sharpnes. But i was strugling to get same result as in my strusty old sp5pro.

Tested my then quite experienced SP5pro use against the DxOPLv1 elite and hopped over. Only for there prime denoise and optical module and viewpoint But silkypix had some tricks that DxO plv1.2 hadn't.

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I have demo'd DxO PL several times in the past, and just didn't like the results as well as I got with other apps. However, last night I downloaded a trial, was pretty happy with the results I could get. I also tried PRIME on a a photo I had taken of my grandson at a birthday party of his. The only lighting was the candles on the cake, so it was really noisy, and PRIME did a good job of removing the noise. The Elite version is on sale right now for $150 (US), so I am inclined to get it.

There are some things I don't like about PL, and it is far less featured than ON1, but probably gives better results in the end within its limitations (for example, no smart brush for making clean selections easily when doing local adjustments).

spike29 said:

- very good color recovery from highlights.

- cloning repair was working quite wel but manual. Same as perspectivetools.

- Auto WB natural/absolute: Great auto colorcast recovery if your camera mishitted the WB.

- Camerastyle which read idyn and ires and applied it on the rawfile along your cameracolorsettings.

- the tonecurve tool and histogram give's lots of information and you can include the sliders of contrast in the tonecurve which i don't had/have on other aplications.

It's still on my pc and i use it for WB control

So now i am at PhotoLab v3.2 suite elite.(inlcuding filmpack and viewpoint)

But i am waiting for a SP10Pro for panasonic because it still is in my favorit corner with there special and unique look at things.

They have now focalplane filter, multishot blending in more then one way, it's a interesting software company :no LR clone doing stuff there own way and very succesfull imo.

Edit: Forgot they have colorproofing also. Don't know if i need it doh.

My advise is wait for the panasonic only version in pro. And upgrade from there to a full version if the right offer is in your mail.

(i emailed them to ask if they launch the panasonic only in the future and despite the hystory of all versions of panasonic only they say we don't........ )

My gues is somewhere in the fall.....

In the maintime look at DxOPL elite not very cheap but for m43 sensors it's a blessing.

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Yes, it looks very promising!

spike29 said:

I can recover a 6400 iso in detail which is better then sp5pro raw to tiff and run through define2 of nik.

The lens correction and sharpning is that good that they have more image then SP5, sp cuts off more to solve things like distortion and vignetting.

I run several test and dxoPL keeps more image visual then SP when straigtend and corrected.

My two cents

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I think you gave a lot more than two cents worth, lots of great information and advice! Thanks so much!

Carol T said:

spike29 said:

Late to the party and i think all is said and djscused.

I am a panasonic user and bought sp5pro for my fz200 and later used it for my g85.

My experience, and i was first using a old LR4 which i hated for it's automated search every time i stuck a usb in my pc, is a learning curve in developing it self not in Silkypics itself.

Manual of sp5pro was very helpfull in learning what to do and how things worked. Because English isn't my native language i have less trouble with there crooked english.

When i got my G85 i stumbled on the free Dx0 optic pro v10 essential and there optical module is a God, instant sharpnes. But i was strugling to get same result as in my strusty old sp5pro.

Tested my then quite experienced SP5pro use against the DxOPLv1 elite and hopped over. Only for there prime denoise and optical module and viewpoint But silkypix had some tricks that DxO plv1.2 hadn't.

Click to expand...

I have demo'd DxO PL several times in the past, and just didn't like the results as well as I got with other apps. However, last night I downloaded a trial, was pretty happy with the results I could get. I also tried PRIME on a a photo I had taken of my grandson at a birthday party of his. The only lighting was the candles on the cake, so it was really noisy, and PRIME did a good job of removing the noise. The Elite version is on sale right now for $150 (US), so I am inclined to get it.

There are some things I don't like about PL, and it is far less featured than ON1, but probably gives better results in the end within its limitations (for example, no smart brush for making clean selections easily when doing local adjustments).

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ok i think it's time to show some tricks here ;-)

1) Filmpack gives advanced contrast sliders these work great with the normal selective tone sliders. a -40 selective tone slider on highlights is the same as -20 on both contrast high and selective tone high. (you can control the white detail by contrast so -40 and +10 or -30 and -10) much better tone/detail control then elite alone.

in local adjustments video quick and dirty

Controlpoints, smartbrush, normal brush, multi stroke erasor to soften the mask where you like. gradient. all color and luminance and blur and sharpening and clearview you can reverse masks.

playing with mask:




pulled a mask over pigon and cleaned the outer border copy and reverse drained out colors




cleaned distraction and sharpend object




colors and detail by using masking and HSL drag down surounding to black




some color play to make it more vibrant




or change color completely for fun




shadow pulled.

just some fast redraws of my library to show local adjustment.

its a hole closet of tools if you know how to use them.

controlpoints and mask and global tools all are useable in every order you like.

if you dive in dxOPL use the elite suite version. PLv3.2, Filmpack and Viewpoint.

Or even better wait for the V4, which is coming in the fall, and take a hole year of free upgrades instead of from now to say september october. and take a discount offer for the suite elite version.

Carol T said:

Carol T said:

- very good color recovery from highlights.

- cloning repair was working quite wel but manual. Same as perspectivetools.

- Auto WB natural/absolute: Great auto colorcast recovery if your camera mishitted the WB.

- Camerastyle which read idyn and ires and applied it on the rawfile along your cameracolorsettings.

- the tonecurve tool and histogram give's lots of information and you can include the sliders of contrast in the tonecurve which i don't had/have on other aplications.

It's still on my pc and i use it for WB control

So now i am at PhotoLab v3.2 suite elite.(inlcuding filmpack and viewpoint)

But i am waiting for a SP10Pro for panasonic because it still is in my favorit corner with there special and unique look at things.

They have now focalplane filter, multishot blending in more then one way, it's a interesting software company :no LR clone doing stuff there own way and very succesfull imo.

Edit: Forgot they have colorproofing also. Don't know if i need it doh.

My advise is wait for the panasonic only version in pro. And upgrade from there to a full version if the right offer is in your mail.

(i emailed them to ask if they launch the panasonic only in the future and despite the hystory of all versions of panasonic only they say we don't........ )

My gues is somewhere in the fall.....

In the maintime look at DxOPL elite not very cheap but for m43 sensors it's a blessing.

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Yes, it looks very promising!

Carol T said:

I can recover a 6400 iso in detail which is better then sp5pro raw to tiff and run through define2 of nik.

The lens correction and sharpning is that good that they have more image then SP5, sp cuts off more to solve things like distortion and vignetting.

I run several test and dxoPL keeps more image visual then SP when straigtend and corrected.

My two cents

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I think you gave a lot more than two cents worth, lots of great information and advice! Thanks so much!

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your welcome, i don't say you need to choose DxO but they are not the plugin kind of tool they use to be in the optic pro time. LR isn't bad either i heared but i don't like there prescription model.

(i would say: trail v3.2 after the 30 days it still works only export does a watermark over it but you can play as long as you need inside the sandbox only you can't take the castles to home. :-D )

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spike29 said:

Carol T said:

spike29 said:

Late to the party and i think all is said and djscused.

I am a panasonic user and bought sp5pro for my fz200 and later used it for my g85.

My experience, and i was first using a old LR4 which i hated for it's automated search every time i stuck a usb in my pc, is a learning curve in developing it self not in Silkypics itself.

Manual of sp5pro was very helpfull in learning what to do and how things worked. Because English isn't my native language i have less trouble with there crooked english.

When i got my G85 i stumbled on the free Dx0 optic pro v10 essential and there optical module is a God, instant sharpnes. But i was strugling to get same result as in my strusty old sp5pro.

Tested my then quite experienced SP5pro use against the DxOPLv1 elite and hopped over. Only for there prime denoise and optical module and viewpoint But silkypix had some tricks that DxO plv1.2 hadn't.

Click to expand...

I have demo'd DxO PL several times in the past, and just didn't like the results as well as I got with other apps. However, last night I downloaded a trial, was pretty happy with the results I could get. I also tried PRIME on a a photo I had taken of my grandson at a birthday party of his. The only lighting was the candles on the cake, so it was really noisy, and PRIME did a good job of removing the noise. The Elite version is on sale right now for $150 (US), so I am inclined to get it.

There are some things I don't like about PL, and it is far less featured than ON1, but probably gives better results in the end within its limitations (for example, no smart brush for making clean selections easily when doing local adjustments).

Click to expand...

ok i think it's time to show some tricks here ;-)

1) Filmpack gives advanced contrast sliders these work great with the normal selective tone sliders. a -40 selective tone slider on highlights is the same as -20 on both contrast high and selective tone high. (you can control the white detail by contrast so -40 and +10 or -30 and -10) much better tone/detail control then elite alone.

in local adjustments video quick and dirty

Controlpoints, smartbrush, normal brush, multi stroke erasor to soften the mask where you like. gradient. all color and luminance and blur and sharpening and clearview you can reverse masks.

playing with mask:


pulled a mask over pigon and cleaned the outer border copy and reverse drained out colors


cleaned distraction and sharpend object


colors and detail by using masking and HSL drag down surounding to black


some color play to make it more vibrant


or change color completely for fun


shadow pulled.

just some fast redraws of my library to show local adjustment.

its a hole closet of tools if you know how to use them.

controlpoints and mask and global tools all are useable in every order you like.

if you dive in dxOPL use the elite suite version. PLv3.2, Filmpack and Viewpoint.

Or even better wait for the V4, which is coming in the fall, and take a hole year of free upgrades instead of from now to say september october. and take a discount offer for the suite elite version.

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Very cool!

I just downloaded the free trial of Filmpack, will give it a go. I love filters though so I am sure I will like it, lol.

Btw, after my earlier post I found the 'automask' option on the local adjustment wheel, that does do the edge-aware masking.

I would probably get the V3 Elite now, and then do the upgrade in the fall. It looks like upgrades are about half the cost of new, so am guessing the upgrade for the Elite would be around $100, maybe $80 for discount. I pay about that for ON1 upgrades, which generally are not usable until the mid-year update anyhow because of all the bugs they introduce with new versions.

And of course, depending on how bad I want the new features, I don't have to upgrade at all.

spike29 said:

spike29 said:

spike29 said:

- very good color recovery from highlights.

- cloning repair was working quite wel but manual. Same as perspectivetools.

- Auto WB natural/absolute: Great auto colorcast recovery if your camera mishitted the WB.

- Camerastyle which read idyn and ires and applied it on the rawfile along your cameracolorsettings.

- the tonecurve tool and histogram give's lots of information and you can include the sliders of contrast in the tonecurve which i don't had/have on other aplications.

It's still on my pc and i use it for WB control

So now i am at PhotoLab v3.2 suite elite.(inlcuding filmpack and viewpoint)

But i am waiting for a SP10Pro for panasonic because it still is in my favorit corner with there special and unique look at things.

They have now focalplane filter, multishot blending in more then one way, it's a interesting software company :no LR clone doing stuff there own way and very succesfull imo.

Edit: Forgot they have colorproofing also. Don't know if i need it doh.

My advise is wait for the panasonic only version in pro. And upgrade from there to a full version if the right offer is in your mail.

(i emailed them to ask if they launch the panasonic only in the future and despite the hystory of all versions of panasonic only they say we don't........ )

My gues is somewhere in the fall.....

In the maintime look at DxOPL elite not very cheap but for m43 sensors it's a blessing.

Click to expand...

Yes, it looks very promising!

spike29 said:

I can recover a 6400 iso in detail which is better then sp5pro raw to tiff and run through define2 of nik.

The lens correction and sharpning is that good that they have more image then SP5, sp cuts off more to solve things like distortion and vignetting.

I run several test and dxoPL keeps more image visual then SP when straigtend and corrected.

My two cents

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I think you gave a lot more than two cents worth, lots of great information and advice! Thanks so much!

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your welcome, i don't say you need to choose DxO but they are not the plugin kind of tool they use to be in the optic pro time. LR isn't bad either i heared but i don't like there prescription model.

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I always hated Lr and found it really frustrating. I have not used it for several years now. I probably will use the free SP SE8 along with PL. Kind of frustrating that PL does not have renaming of files on export, but whatever.

spike29 said:

(i would say: trail v3.2 after the 30 days it still works only export does a watermark over it but you can play as long as you need inside the sandbox only you can't take the castles to home. :-D )

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Lol on your metaphor! You are too much fun, lol.

Thanks again for all your help!

Carol T said:

Finally made it to the part of my new G9's Advanced Manual (page 300, woohoo!) where it says you can download a free copy of SilkyPix Developer Studio SE8, and am wondering if it is worth the bother?

I know that the manufacturer raw conversion software that a couple companies provide is claimed by a few people to do better conversion than third-party software, but I really wonder in this case. SilkyPix is just generic, and I guess likely was not designed with proprietary info from Panasonic like the Canon-provided converter is for Canon, for instance.

I used SilkyPix many years ago with Fuji files, and wow, was it's own beast. Horrible to use. If somehow it provides better conversion than what I use now, ON1, I would download it and use it to convert the few photos I want the very best from to TIFFs for further processing in Affinity Photo.

I did a forum search and found lots of hits, but nothing that really answered this for me. Any thoughts? Thanks!

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In a word, no. It's not worth it. Raw Therapee is also free and does a way better job. DXO PhotoLab 3 does even better than Raw Therapee on my G9 (which wasn't always the case before PL3 and with other bodies). I messed around with the newest revision of Silky Pix a few weeks ago just to see if any progress had been made. It works ok but the workspace is illogical and oversimplified and the results were just ok.

if you use the setup

Fast Raw Viewer (great tool to look deeper in a raw file for culling the bad out the stack)

Adobe Bridge (free if you got a account) for keywording and IPTC editing creating a XMP file.) Keywording in dxOPL is database only (at this moment any way)and i don't like that. xmp is much more stable so i use the XMP for that and bridge is the only free option which is stable. and hierarchical. Photomechanic is better for sure but much more expensive.

DxO can read and export XMP IPTC and EXIF data in to the jpg or tiff properties

and you can search with windows explorer in the properties to find something.

suffix like camera image filenumber_ holiday on ice.jpg is also possible.

done writing for now

Carol T said:

Kind of frustrating that PL does not have renaming of files on export, but whatever.

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Uh? Do I have that right? Photolab can rename on export, in my case I have a permanent suffix "-DxO" attached to all file names exported, and that changes case to case when experimenting so I can sort out various versions and trials. Naturally it's important to keep the original camera file name in the new name as otherwise I would be lost in sorting out things later.

If renaming or bulk renaming or prefixes are required then my usual workhorse tool of FastStone Viewer does all that.

Back to Silkypix, yes I am re-learning and probably doing it the right way now by reading the manual. The SE V8 manual is by far the most readable version they have ever produced but even in that there's a few strange translations.

Guy Parsons said:

Carol T said:

Kind of frustrating that PL does not have renaming of files on export, but whatever.

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Uh? Do I have that right? Photolab can rename on export, in my case I have a permanent suffix "-DxO" attached to all file names exported, and that changes case to case when experimenting so I can sort out various versions and trials. Naturally it's important to keep the original camera file name in the new name as otherwise I would be lost in sorting out things later.

If renaming or bulk renaming or prefixes are required then my usual workhorse tool of FastStone Viewer does all that.

Back to Silkypix, yes I am re-learning and probably doing it the right way now by reading the manual. The SE V8 manual is by far the most readable version they have ever produced but even in that there's a few strange translations.

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Yes, I saw the suffix, and you can actually change that, but I am used to giving photos more descriptive names than 'P000021' when I export them, lol. Something like 'Bo_bday_2018' with a series number at the end. I guess it would make it harder to go back and match them up with the original raw files, but I rarely do that anyhow.

I don't know anything about FastStone, but I think someone else mentioned it somewhere in this thread. I will have to take a look at it, thanks!

Absolutely. It took me a few tries before I finally gelled with it, but I've now been using SP Pro since 8 I think. I usually wait for the Panasonic only versions to be offered, but this year they offered the full version of SP Pro 10 for 8800 yen as an upgrade from 9. Jumped on that straight away, & I'm very very happy with it.

Yeah, it's not Adobe, it works differently. But I get really really good results out of it, makes shooting raw every bit as easy as jpeg, the colours all seem to match precisely with what I see in the camera, I'm really liking the new image stacking features, & it was very very reasonably priced. I can now quickly skim back through photos taken with my older non Panny cameras, & generally get a better result than the raw conversion of the day. Much like.

The latest free version is also head & shoulders above the previous free versions too. I've played around with that a bit, & was happy with what I was seeing there too.

My experience with SilkyPix is unlike that of some other posters here in that I found that SilkyPix automatically gave the best corrections for both lens distortion and chromatic aberration. I am somewhat constrained in that I am running Linux so have had to run SilkyPix using wine and only been able to compare it to rawtherapee and dark table. I have not been able to get results with either of those nearly as good as with SilkyPix.

Alan

After I bought a new PC, I gave a try again. It's fast enough and stable now, but most of the functions are quite strange and works differently. What I have learnt so far, that even though there is no so called shadows/highlights recovery feature, but Dodge HDR and Color Burn HDR does it similarly than other editor's highlight/shadow sliders, while the lighter Dodge and Color Burn does similar to blacks and whites, but only in one direction. However blacks can be darkened with a different slider.

Hi folks,

apologies for being late in The conversation.

I have written an article to explain Silkypix Developer Studio Pro 10 Interface and functions. With plenty of images. It is not a celebrity software. But, It's a great software that produces nice colours.


For those who prefer watching over reading, I have made a video.


In both, I explained the functions, terms and functions to get you started.

You probably know all of them already.

But take a look if you are curious.

Kind regards.

Sourov said:

Hi folks,

apologies for being late in The conversation.

I have written an article to explain Silkypix Developer Studio Pro 10 Interface and functions. With plenty of images. It is not a celebrity software. But, It's a great software that produces nice colours.

https://lestreasurehunters.com/2020/10/04/silkypix-developer-studio-pro-10-review/

For those who prefer watching over reading, I have made a video.

In both, I explained the functions, terms and functions to get you started.

You probably know all of them already.

But take a look if you are curious.

Kind regards.

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Thanks for that, all the more information available the better it is. Some things are "different" in Silkypix so that's what deters some people.

The Silkypix own pages of explanations of features is here https://silkypix.isl.co.jp/en/how-to/how-to-category/function/ and sometimes quaint English but it is all understandable.

In my case V2 up to V5 then paused and now back with V10 for some functions that my usual DxO cannot do.

Guy Parsons said:

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In my case V2 up to V5 then paused and now back with V10 for some functions that my usual DxO cannot do.

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Thank you kindly. Just out of curiosity, which functions DXO can not do. My attempt to write the article and make the Video is to, let say, simplify some terms, make a comparison (because generally, comparisons help us understand certain things better).

Silkypix is very underrated. I think poor marketing has to do something with it. But certainly not quality. Because the quality is certainly up there with the rest.

King Regards.

Sourov said:

Sourov said:

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In my case V2 up to V5 then paused and now back with V10 for some functions that my usual DxO cannot do.

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Thank you kindly. Just out of curiosity, which functions DXO can not do. My attempt to write the article and make the Video is to, let say, simplify some terms, make a comparison (because generally, comparisons help us understand certain things better).

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Notably DxO does not do stacking/composite yet but it does have that DeepPRIME noise reduction on raw files that is hard to beat if dealing with very high ISO images.

To do proper vertical or horizontal perspective adjusts then you need to buy a DxO addon (Viewpoint) where that correction has always been built into Silkypix (Tools-Perspective Control).

I mostly use DxO, sometimes Silkypix and for some edit efforts Affinity Photo due to its style that has copied my long time used but now abandoned by me PaintShop Pro.

Sourov said:

Silkypix is very underrated. I think poor marketing has to do something with it. But certainly not quality. Because the quality is certainly up there with the rest.

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Just because "it is not Photoshop-like" then it has been largely ignored. Back around V2 and V3 days there was nothing like it, it was certainly the best around for a few years, and it has always been good all through the years.

Sourov said:

Hi folks,

apologies for being late in The conversation.

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No apologies needed, every contribution is valuable.

Sourov said:

I have written an article to explain Silkypix Developer Studio Pro 10 Interface and functions. With plenty of images. It is not a celebrity software. But, It's a great software that produces nice colours.

https://lestreasurehunters.com/2020/10/04/silkypix-developer-studio-pro-10-review/

For those who prefer watching over reading, I have made a video.

In both, I explained the functions, terms and functions to get you started.

You probably know all of them already.

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I will watch both and i am sure i learn something.

I bought v10 for panasonic out couriosity. Used v5 before dxopl became my application of choice.

It has a some things i liked to try and now it's a side application to compare.

There blacklevel, microcontrast , contrast controls are very good.

Better then dxo's version at this point.

Dehaze and clarity are to different tools in "dehazing" a image.

And there connection in tonecurve window is also great.

Color softproofing was an other thing but because i never almost never print i don't use it. Great for study doh.

As guy wrote dxo can't stack. And i need to create image special for this use but i like those posibilities SP provide.

One bummer drawback, sp10pro for pany doesn't accept DNG's but then again a 16bit tiff is just as good for second stage processing.

I will advise everyone who has a supported camera for the brand only version (very cheap) to buy it as a reverence application or if you starting to like it a main one.

Sourov said:

But take a look if you are curious.

Kind regards.

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Thanks.

Ps i am not using it often because i am more a learn one app very good to use instead of many used half. It clutters your pc and drain your time and money.

But i am supporting silkypix with those purchages because i like there independence in this adobe dictated playfield.

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spike29 said:

spike29 said:

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Thanks.

Ps i am not using it often because i am more a learn one app very good to use instead of many used half. It clutters your pc and drain your time and money.

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Exactly. I totally understand what you said. I personally tried everything over the years. CAPTURE one, DXO, Darktable, Silkypix. I mentioned my experience with them in the article.

But Silkypix is unique. In a very good way. That's now my main and the only editor. Because at least, there is a garantee that it will support any camera Raws immediately.

For retouching and graphics, i use Affinity. For Iso from 6400 or more, i use silkypix topaz combo.

And for video, davinci resolve. For audio, audacity and for office, Libre office.

My computer looks and feels really simple and quiet.

spike29 said:

But i am supporting silkypix with those purchages because i like there independence in this adobe dictated playfield.

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Me too. And image quality triumphs anything else. They do it well.

It's a pleasure to speak to another fellow silkypix user.

Hope you like the article and the video. Please do give me any feedback on them.

Kind regards.

I knew that ARC/LR and SP are applying lens correction by default, but I didn't know that it is so much. Not for all lenses and not for every focal length of the zooms.
here is example of DxO/C1/RT and blue lines are area of ARC / SP default lens correction. Can I switch it off in SP?



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SonyX said:

I knew that ARC/LR and SP are applying lens correction by default, but I didn't know that it is so much. Not for all lenses and not for every focal length of the zooms.
here is example of DxO/C1/RT and blue lines are area of ARC / SP default lens correction. Can I switch it off in SP?



ARC full size

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Hi ,

There is a easy fix. As Silkypix is a great and quite unique software , it works in a different way.


Go to Crop Tool. And Click the button at the bottom.

To understand what that tool does, Silkypix has a very good explanation in the manual.

SonyX said:

4.14.4. Extend processing area to entire recorded area

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With RAW data, information on an area a little larger than the area for development processing may be recorded as a photograph through default development processing.
This area is called the extension area.
Also, whiteout areas caused by “Distortion” from “Rotation/Shift lens effect” and “Lens aberration controller” are included in the extension area.

When Extend processing area to entire recorded area is on, the cropping area, including this extension area, can be set.

The size of extension areas varies according to the type of digital camera.
Also, black areas from no exposure and invalid images such as electronic noise may be recorded, depending on the type of camera.
Blank areas that occur as a result of edited parameters are processed in grey.

Hope this helped.

To understand more about the software, I recommend you to read my article

https://lestreasurehunters.com/2020/10/04/silkypix-developer-studio-pro-10-review/

Kind Regards