Polarising Filters.??

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How much would you spend on a polarising filter?

I’m looking to buy one for my Nikon 24-70 f2.8. I’m fairly new to photography & a bit bewildered by the varying cost & different manufacturers.

Any recommendations welcome.

Cheers Marc
 
Nothing. I've stopped using them. What are you hoping for from one? I'm serious. "New" often means people are being lead on by internet enthusiasts.

I will give one tip; always take a frame without the filter as well. I've spoiled as many shots as I've improved.

This https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2017/10/my-last-circular-polarizer-post/ seems to say cheap ones are likely to be OK but you'll get more flare and reflections as the coatings are not as good but when I do use them they do most good when the light is behind you so it won't matter as much.

If you want to intensify blue skies do it in post processing. Also clarity and anti-haze in processing goes a long way too.

The short answer may be Hoya.

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How much would you spend on a polarising filter?
I'd buy the best available - although it may look expensive on its own it's still a small fraction of the total you've spent on the rest of your gear.

But before that, why specifically are you thinking of buying a CPL? They can be useful in some situations, of course - but be sure you understand those situations before you buy.
I’m looking to buy one for my Nikon 24-70 f2.8. I’m fairly new to photography & a bit bewildered by the varying cost & different manufacturers.
 
Nothing. I've stopped using them. What are you hoping for from one? I'm serious. "New" often means people are being lead on by internet enthusiasts.

I will give one tip; always take a frame without the filter as well. I've spoiled as many shots as I've improved.

This https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2017/10/my-last-circular-polarizer-post/ seems to say cheap ones are likely to be OK but you'll get more flare and reflections as the coatings are not as good but when I do use them they do most good when the light is behind you so it won't matter as much.

If you want to intensify blue skies do it in post processing. Also clarity and anti-haze in processing goes a long way too.

The short answer may be Hoya.
That suggests you don't know how to use them.

I've rarely seen any problems in using older polarisers. Nearly all of mine are second hand. It's true that better one will have coatings improving performance, but they're not filters that are highly prone to flare IMO. When far from my photography gear I've ended u[p using polaroid sunglasses as a replacement with no issues.

I rarely use them for skies, finding them more useful for boosting or removing reflections from surfaces, I even used them for studying stress patterns more often than skies!
 
But before that, why specifically are you thinking of buying a CPL? They can be useful in some situations, of course - but be sure you understand those situations before you buy.

Hi & thanks for your answer.
bearing in mind I have limited experience, & maybe over thinking things.


I had the idea that When we eventually get some good weather & are allowed out to take photos I would like to do some more landscapes.

I have a few subjects & ideas in mind.


In some instances I may want to eliminate reflections, in water, enrich colours & increase contrast particularly between clouds & sky.

I also had the idea that for early morning / late evening shots (though I do understand I could use Nd filters) that maybe using one would allow me to slow shutter speed down a little to create some movement in the clouds while still maintaining the desired effects mentioned above.



Hope I got that question right:-O:-)

😀

cheers. Marc.
 
Get a good one. Mine set me back $200 fifteen years ago, still going strong. Of course, you probably won't use it much — I use mine in well under 1% of shots. Using it at the wrong times, it's effectively just a neutral density filter, reducing the light entering the lens.

The counter-argument, I guess, is that if you're only going to use it in less than 1% of shots, it doesn't matter if it's low quality. I don't subscribe to this view.

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In some instances I may want to eliminate reflections, in water, enrich colours & increase contrast particularly between clouds & sky.
It will eliminate reflections, largely. Enriching colours is practical in processing as is deepening the sky to some extent. Remember that skies become uneven with a polariser, the effect being most at 90º to the sun and this will produce a really odd effect on lenses wider than about 35mm on full frame, 23mm on APS-C, hence my caution. You can deal with skies in processing and the most important thing is not to burn out the highlights in the clouds. You might also think about combining frames at different exposures to get more control over skies, but within the limits of angle of view polarising filters will do the job.
I also had the idea that for early morning / late evening shots (though I do understand I could use Nd filters) that maybe using one would allow me to slow shutter speed down a little to create some movement in the clouds while still maintaining the desired effects mentioned above.
Yes, but you may find the light loss isn't enough to produce the effect you are after. You can mimic this effect completely by taking numerous frames correctly exposed and combining them.

Either would need a tripod to be really practical.

In UK I'd buy this one.

Perhaps I'll try again in the summer.

But do remember to take a frame with and without.

Edit: PS I forgot the best new starter advice: buy a decent book and work through it from page 1 to the end.

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Andrew Skinner
 
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But before that, why specifically are you thinking of buying a CPL? They can be useful in some situations, of course - but be sure you understand those situations before you buy.

Hi & thanks for your answer.
bearing in mind I have limited experience, & maybe over thinking things.

I had the idea that When we eventually get some good weather & are allowed out to take photos I would like to do some more landscapes.

I have a few subjects & ideas in mind.

In some instances I may want to eliminate reflections, in water, enrich colours & increase contrast particularly between clouds & sky.

I also had the idea that for early morning / late evening shots (though I do understand I could use Nd filters) that maybe using one would allow me to slow shutter speed down a little to create some movement in the clouds while still maintaining the desired effects mentioned above.

Hope I got that question right:-O:-)

😀

cheers. Marc.
One thing I should have added to this post........

As stated although I’m fairly new to photography, I am a complete novice when it comes to Photoshop. I think I would probably ruin more photos there than in camera even using a PL filter🥴
 
Buy a book, learn the craft, shooting and shopping. Honestly. Photoshop means you can go back and try again, and again, and again.

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Andrew Skinner
 
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I'd spend a bit more...but that's just my outlook on things:
  1. I'm of the mindset that if you decide you need a specific filter for something, then you buy it for the largest diameter filter ring of the lenses you realistically are going to attach the filter to, and then get step-up rings. In that respect, going more expensive for brass filter threads and step-up rings to help prevent jamming will save you a lot of headache--unless you overtighten. Don't overtighten--especially with CP's.
  2. The more expensive ones tend to have the least amount of light loss.
I went with a B+W XS-pro Kaesemann CP. Been thrilled with it.

Good luck and happy shooting
 
But before that, why specifically are you thinking of buying a CPL? They can be useful in some situations, of course - but be sure you understand those situations before you buy.
Hi & thanks for your answer. bearing in mind I have limited experience, & maybe over thinking things. I had the idea that When we eventually get some good weather & are allowed out to take photos I would like to do some more landscapes.

I have a few subjects & ideas in mind. In some instances I may want to eliminate reflections, in water, enrich colours & increase contrast particularly between clouds & sky.
Fair enough, but bear in mind that the angle to reduce reflections in water might be wrong for other purposes sand may make things worse. But it depends on the specific shot so you can only find out by using the filter (which, of course, means you have to buy it).

People often ask here about gear here with no clear idea if why they want it. I just wanted to eliminate that possibility in your question.
I also had the idea that for early morning / late evening shots (though I do understand I could use Nd filters) that maybe using one would allow me to slow shutter speed down a little to create some movement in the clouds while still maintaining the desired effects mentioned above.
A CPL won't reduce the light enough for this, especially a good quality low absorption one.
Hope I got that question right:-O:-)

😀

cheers. Marc.
 
But before that, why specifically are you thinking of buying a CPL? They can be useful in some situations, of course - but be sure you understand those situations before you buy.

Hi & thanks for your answer.
bearing in mind I have limited experience, & maybe over thinking things.

I had the idea that When we eventually get some good weather & are allowed out to take photos I would like to do some more landscapes.

I have a few subjects & ideas in mind.

In some instances I may want to eliminate reflections, in water, enrich colours & increase contrast particularly between clouds & sky.

I also had the idea that for early morning / late evening shots (though I do understand I could use Nd filters) that maybe using one would allow me to slow shutter speed down a little to create some movement in the clouds while still maintaining the desired effects mentioned above.

Hope I got that question right:-O:-)

😀

cheers. Marc.
A "standard" CPL can reduce the exposure by 2 1/2 stops, measured from with and without. That can be a lot at the narrow apertures used with landscape. That's the main reason for the preference for the high transmission types for hand-held use. You can lose too much shutter speed in low light with The standard.

The standards are handy to help blur a fast moving mountain stream. That doesn't take much. That's more likely where you've seen them used in place of an ND.
 
want to eliminate reflections, in water, enrich colours & increase contrast particularly between clouds & sky
Those things can happen, but they are not guaranteed every time. And there are photo editors a lot easier to learn than Photoshop. I'm not super fussy, Tiffens work fine for me. Link for ideas -


Kelly Cook
 
How much would you spend on a polarising filter?

I’m looking to buy one for my Nikon 24-70 f2.8. I’m fairly new to photography & a bit bewildered by the varying cost & different manufacturers.

Any recommendations welcome.
It is bewildering. I just looked up B&H's selection of 82mm polarizing filters (that's what the 24-70 VR takes; the older version takes 77mm) and they list 135 of them with prices from about $30 to $450. Arggh.

Now, you have a very good lens and I suggest you use a good filter. You probably have the same goal. I tend to get filters from high-end manufacturers like B+W or Nikon. Hoya makes some good filters but they have a wide range of products. Somehow I don't think a $65 Hoya filter is as good as a $224 Hoya filter.

I would probably go with a B+W F-Pro filter; B&H sells it for $137.
 
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How much would you spend on a polarising filter?

I’m looking to buy one for my Nikon 24-70 f2.8. I’m fairly new to photography & a bit bewildered by the varying cost & different manufacturers.

Any recommendations welcome.

Cheers Marc
I wasted $$$ on cheap filters instead of looking for integrated solution. There are three or four filter systems offering integrated solution to taming lights. While I settled on LEE Filters, it may not be the best but it is the system that best fit my needs. I spend over $1,000 for my filter system.

May I suggest for you to watch the video?

http://www.leefilters.com/index.php/camera/polariser
 
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But before that, why specifically are you thinking of buying a CPL? They can be useful in some situations, of course - but be sure you understand those situations before you buy.

Hi & thanks for your answer.
bearing in mind I have limited experience, & maybe over thinking things.

I had the idea that When we eventually get some good weather & are allowed out to take photos I would like to do some more landscapes.

I have a few subjects & ideas in mind.

In some instances I may want to eliminate reflections, in water, enrich colours & increase contrast particularly between clouds & sky.

I also had the idea that for early morning / late evening shots (though I do understand I could use Nd filters) that maybe using one would allow me to slow shutter speed down a little to create some movement in the clouds while still maintaining the desired effects mentioned above.

Hope I got that question right:-O:-)

😀

cheers. Marc.
A "standard" CPL can reduce the exposure by 2 1/2 stops, measured from with and without. That can be a lot at the narrow apertures used with landscape. That's the main reason for the preference for the high transmission types for hand-held use.
Have you seen any tests to verify the HT are just as effective ???
You can lose too much shutter speed in low light with The standard.
I can accept more light loss IF it indeed is more effective.
The standards are handy to help blur a fast moving mountain stream. That doesn't take much. That's more likely where you've seen them used in place of an ND.
 
But before that, why specifically are you thinking of buying a CPL? They can be useful in some situations, of course - but be sure you understand those situations before you buy.

Hi & thanks for your answer.
bearing in mind I have limited experience, & maybe over thinking things.

I had the idea that When we eventually get some good weather & are allowed out to take photos I would like to do some more landscapes.

I have a few subjects & ideas in mind.

In some instances I may want to eliminate reflections, in water, enrich colours & increase contrast particularly between clouds & sky.

I also had the idea that for early morning / late evening shots (though I do understand I could use Nd filters) that maybe using one would allow me to slow shutter speed down a little to create some movement in the clouds while still maintaining the desired effects mentioned above.

Hope I got that question right:-O:-)

😀

cheers. Marc.
A "standard" CPL can reduce the exposure by 2 1/2 stops, measured from with and without. That can be a lot at the narrow apertures used with landscape. That's the main reason for the preference for the high transmission types for hand-held use.
Have you seen any tests to verify the HT are just as effective ???
You can lose too much shutter speed in low light with The standard.
I can accept more light loss IF it indeed is more effective.
The standards are handy to help blur a fast moving mountain stream. That doesn't take much. That's more likely where you've seen them used in place of an ND.
If anything, they are better, but I think the effect is harder to recognize when it doesn't get darker at the same time. At half-press, the live view compensates.
 
Re: Polarising Filters.??
How much would you spend on a polarising filter?

I’m looking to buy one for my Nikon 24-70 f2.8. I’m fairly new to photography & a bit bewildered by the varying cost & different manufacturers.

Any recommendations welcome.

Cheers Marc
I wasted $$$ on cheap filters instead of looking for integrated solution. There are three or four filter systems offering integrated solution to taming lights. While I settled on LEE Filters, it may not be the best but it is the system that best fit my needs. I spend over $1,000 for my filter system.

May I suggest for you to watch the video?

http://www.leefilters.com/index.php/camera/polariser
Yes good video,. Thanks.

I do have some ND grad filters which I bought cheaply second Hand though unused (eBay) a couple of years ago They are not the Lee ones, but the cheaper Hi-Tech 100 x125mm which fit the Lee holder which I also have, its not a complete set as I have only three in a mixed array of densities hard & soft edge. I have no idea whether these are any good or not?

TBH I hadn’t considered screwing the POL filter to the front of the Lee holder, I’m guessing to go down this rout I would need a larger diameter than the 77mm of my lens?
 
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Suddenly noticing the name on that interesting comparison did you ever form a view about what the ND filter was doing? As you say it shouldn't have made any real difference.
 

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