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Your experience with mirrorless cameras - are you convinced or not?
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I checked in the manual for my 60-CT4 and you are quite right. Mine came with a cable with the old style PC plug and I used it with a Mamiya Press camera.
It never occurred to me that it might do TTL.
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Phil A Martin
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Yes, you just needed the appropriate SCA adapter for your brand and model of camera. That was the beauty of the system.
One of the main reasons for buying a mirrorless camera is to be able to use the manual-focus lenses that you already have. In practice, those from reputable makers are fine optically: what they lack is auto focus and stabilisation.
For those of us who have limited budgets, this is an important advantage.
Phil A Martin
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It's still ironic that the latest DSLR bodies can be dismissed as the photographic equivalent of the Model T Ford and then using lenses that are the equivalent of a horse drawn cart.
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my pentax camera takes old k mount lenses and is a dslr, so the mirrorless only does not apply in adapting case for some.
Holger Bargen
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Tony Northrop does very good reviews and also very good youtube videos on almost any aspect of photography. I really appreciate his comments and views as they are good founded and my impression is that they are not biased.
Holger Bargen
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Thank you robgerendreau for your comment.
That's a very reasonable view. Some people add to the discussion almost religious aspects with foundation of hard borders.
I don't know why, but somehow it looks like some people want to get rid of DSLR technology. And by initiation of a certain mood this could strengthen that process. My intention of this poll was to find out, if there are really no people who prefer DSLR and if those who would like to stay with the old technology are only a few dinos or if this technology is still supported by a significant proportion of users.
If not the love to the new technology but the loss of investment if old technology dies makes the decision, something went wrong as it would trigger a process that has not preferences but strategical thoughts as foundation. An old technology could die this way even though many people prefer it. If we see that there is a good foundation for DSLR, it may keep the market more diverse.
Holger Bargen
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I would always decide for the technology I like best and that gives most joy of usage. However, I understand your decision. I do believe that EVF will be developed in a good way and that the difference in quality of view between DSLR and EVF may shrink. However, a video signal will never be "real life" but a processed version of it.
Holger Bargen
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My first digital camera was an Olympus C5050. I liked that camera. When I bought into DSLR by buying a Pentax K10D I did this step to give my old lenses a revival. Even though being good at its time, I did not like K10D very much due to not so good low light performance. Pentax K5 was the first DSLR that got my love - same as K1 some years later.
Regarding the back monitor I had high hopes for the articulated screen of K1. This screen ist very good - however, I do not like to use it. The clear and bright view through the OVF helps much more to find best focus in macro photos and the position at the eye gives an additional hold point for more stability and better control of the camera position. This way you wil find me some time head in the dirt - but prefer it over the back screen.
The only field where I miss EVF is video. There will be a converter to adopt Pentax lenses to Sony cameras with transfer of lots of electronic signals. Maybe this way I would get a good video camera.
Holger Bargen
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Yes, both points are relevant. But don't have the ML cameras still have a shutter sound? For some cameras I think that the shutter makes more noise than the mirror.
Holger Bargen
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Dear Marcio_napoli,To the OP, also valid for every other ML thread in DPR.
It must be understood the push you see on this site (and forums) for ML is because this is essentially an amateur site.
The POV you see here rarely, if ever, takes into account what pros think.
Disclaimer: I'm not a pro anymore, nor I wish to be again, considering how destroyed this field is now as a profession.
But the way I experience photography (even as an enthusiast now) remains identical to my pro days.
With all the mirrorless push, this purchase happened just a few months ago:
This is not a high end Hasselblad, it's an old 31 mp kit.
Paid 16 grand (mind you, in local currency that is), but still this could have easily afforded me any modern mirrorless if I wanted.
Love it to bits, one of my all time favorite cameras. Using it with a fierce passion.
A shoot from 2 weeks ago:
Mirrorless is a red flag for me on many ways, it will always be no matter how tech advances.
I want the reflex experience. A mirror is not a con to me, it's a gigantic plus.
Not worried for a minute regarding offerings out there, there're too many DSLRs to chose from.
Just wanted to point out everything people say about ML advantages here (weight, LV, continuous focus tracking, etc etc etc), what you read is mostly from 1 side of the fence alone.
Sure it looks like DSLRs are dead.
But you can't form a real analysis hearing just 1 side of the fence.
Not trolling here, but pointing out this so often forgotten POV in DPR, again, this is 99.9% a place for amateur exposing their opinions, you rarely hear pros opinions.
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thank you for your reply and your view from a professionals perspective. With your Hasselblad system you have everything you need. I remeber the time when there were high end SLR cameras with exchangeable viewfinders. Do you think this could be a solution here, too?
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Holger
Holger Bargen
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Thank you, Richard!I switched to mirrorless, both MFT and FF, for the lighter weight, smaller size.
I use MFT mostly for wildlife, and to have a nice system with a 100-400mm lens (with 2x crop factor = 200-800mm) at a bit over 3 lbs. makes life much easier and more enjoyable!
The GX8 has a fully articulated screen, and I often use it in vertical orientation. The tilt EVF is also useful.
My Sony FF system is also relatively light. Especially with the tiny 2,8/35mm, one of my most used lenses.
I appreciate its small size when I am out in public.
I am in my 11th year with MFT and 6th year with FF.
- Richard
Those photos are great! I never had doubts about the IQ of ML cameras. It's about the feeling you have with the camera in the hand and at the eye. Acutally my gery weights almost tons (at least it feels that way). Maybe weight combined with age will be the reason that makes me switch to the ML league.
Holger Bargen
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Pentax had one ML camera - the K-01. Nice design and people who had it liked it. However, this camera did not even have an EVF but a back mointor only and the camera mount was still pK. As a consequence, there was a lot of empty space inside the camera.
There is a very sophisticated adapter announced. Maybe this could be a way for me to enter the Sony world. It would be interesting for me especially for video.
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