Use Flatbed to make contact print

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A little while go someone asked about using a flatbed to make a contact print.

I had a set of negatives that my wife took and she wanted a quick reminder of what it was. So I had a go. Sadly the negs were cut as fours, so some space is wasted.You could also get 6 rows of 6 on the plate of a Epson V800/850

MDE
 
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A little while go someone asked about using a flatbed to make a contact print.

I had a set of negatives that my wife took and she wanted a quick reminder of what it was. So I had a go. Sadly the negs were cut as fours, so some space is wasted.You could also get 6 rows of 6 on the plate of a Epson V800/850

MDE
Probably worth adding that with a V550 / V600 you can only do this in the centre of the plate as the backlight is only two or three strips of 35mm wide. With something like a V330 / V370 you could get one strip
 
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A little while go someone asked about using a flatbed to make a contact print.

I had a set of negatives that my wife took and she wanted a quick reminder of what it was. So I had a go. Sadly the negs were cut as fours, so some space is wasted.You could also get 6 rows of 6 on the plate of a Epson V800/850

MDE
Thanks. With your setting I am able to make a "contact print" proof sheet of a roll of 35mm negatives on my Epson 4990 flatbed scanner. I tried earlier with the wrong settings and ran into trouble. Here is the sample contact sheet I made with the negatives in a plastic sheet.



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A little while go someone asked about using a flatbed to make a contact print.

I had a set of negatives that my wife took and she wanted a quick reminder of what it was. So I had a go. Sadly the negs were cut as fours, so some space is wasted.You could also get 6 rows of 6 on the plate of a Epson V800/850

MDE
Thanks. With your setting I am able to make a "contact print" proof sheet of a roll of 35mm negatives on my Epson 4990 flatbed scanner. I tried earlier with the wrong settings and ran into trouble. Here is the sample contact sheet I made with the negatives in a plastic sheet.

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I have a 4870, which is a very good scanner, but compared to the V800 very slow.

It can scan 24 6 frame strips compared to the 3 of the V800. The V800 does keep the film flat. I found the edges of the usable area by trial and error, should have dug up the 10x8 guide.
 
I have a 4870, which is a very good scanner, but compared to the V800 very slow.

It can scan 24 6 frame strips compared to the 3 of the V800.
I think you meant four 6-frame strips compared to six 6-frame strips.
 
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I have a 4870, which is a very good scanner, but compared to the V800 very slow.

It can scan 24 6 frame strips compared to the 3 of the V800.
I think you meant four 6-frame strips compared to six 6-frame strips.
Quite correct, but it will take 6 of 6frame strips if you want to make a contact print, pretty much like a V800
 
I have a 4870, which is a very good scanner, but compared to the V800 very slow.

It can scan 24 6 frame strips compared to the 3 of the V800.
I think you meant four 6-frame strips compared to six 6-frame strips.
Quite correct, but it will take 6 of 6frame strips if you want to make a contact print, pretty much like a V800
'6 of 6' for the 4870 has to be another mistake. Epson's description of the 4870 says it has a 6 x 9 inch transparency unit, which supports four 6-frame strips (24 frames), while the V800 has an 8 x 10 inch transparency unit, which would support six 6-frame strips (36 frames).

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I have a 4870, which is a very good scanner, but compared to the V800 very slow.

It can scan 24 6 frame strips compared to the 3 of the V800.
I think you meant four 6-frame strips compared to six 6-frame strips.
Quite correct, but it will take 6 of 6frame strips if you want to make a contact print, pretty much like a V800
'6 of 6' for the 4870 has to be another mistake. Epson's description of the 4870 says it has a 6 x 9 inch transparency unit, which supports four 6-frame strips (24 frames), while the V800 has an 8 x 10 inch transparency unit, which would support six 6-frame strips (36 frames).

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Many thanks I stand corrected.

MDE
 
I haven't actually tried this, but I assume any flatbed could be used at full width (reflective scan area) for contacts if one were to remove the lid and replace that with an led light panel face-down. I have an old 4870 that I am reluctant to use because it had a problem with something out-gassing thus fogging the inside of the scanner glass. That particular scanner was not designed to remove and clean the glass. You have to literally tear the scanner apart. I did have it "fixed" under warranty by a local Epson repair person years ago. So now I have to trust that the scanner is still in alignment. I guess I need to get it out and try it.
 
I haven't actually tried this, but I assume any flatbed could be used at full width (reflective scan area) for contacts if one were to remove the lid and replace that with an led light panel face-down. I have an old 4870 that I am reluctant to use because it had a problem with something out-gassing thus fogging the inside of the scanner glass. That particular scanner was not designed to remove and clean the glass. You have to literally tear the scanner apart. I did have it "fixed" under warranty by a local Epson repair person years ago. So now I have to trust that the scanner is still in alignment. I guess I need to get it out and try it.
I used to have a Epson V330 which is also not designed to take apart but I cleaned the glass a couple of times. You may find there are instructions on the internet, I did with the V330
 
I haven't actually tried this, but I assume any flatbed could be used at full width (reflective scan area) for contacts if one were to remove the lid and replace that with an led light panel face-down. I have an old 4870 that I am reluctant to use because it had a problem with something out-gassing thus fogging the inside of the scanner glass. That particular scanner was not designed to remove and clean the glass. You have to literally tear the scanner apart. I did have it "fixed" under warranty by a local Epson repair person years ago. So now I have to trust that the scanner is still in alignment. I guess I need to get it out and try it.
I doubt that a replacement LED panel face down would work. I think there is some coordination of the software with the lid electronics. Epson mentions the top of the panel is a calibration space and to keep it clear. If you give it a try, let us know.
 
I haven't actually tried this, but I assume any flatbed could be used at full width (reflective scan area) for contacts if one were to remove the lid and replace that with an led light panel face-down.
I have tried that with my V500, but not by removing the lid. That wouldn't have worked at all because the scanner won't enter transparency mode with the lid up. I had to close the lid on the LED panel, which was no problem.

With the LED panel in place and the lid down, it's also necessary to leave about a quarter inch of clear glass above the panel so the calibration step can be accomplished before scanning.

However, that still didn't work. One minor issue is that the light from the panel is way too dim, and is also the wrong color. The major issue is that the resulting scan is limited to exactly the same physical area as the normal transparency window in the lid.

Ultimately, nothing at all was gained.
 
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