January 2021 Part 2 — This Month Through Your Adapted Lens

Alan, this shot was excellent. Makes me feel bad to have so many lenses, and see this optic, often neglected, produce such superb results. The photo is shocking, as the bird seems to be right inside my computer, as opposed to in a photo.

fferreres said:

vivaldibow said:

PhotosByHall said:

vivaldibow said:

Appreciate this plant that brings brightness in this winter

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I've got an Oreston 100 on order.

Looking forwards to trying it out...

Nice shot.

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Thanks. This was my first shot with Meyer Orestor 100mm, probably at MFD. The background looks pretty smooth to me. Enjoy yours.

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I love the nostalgic look that this lens gives. Same with the Oreston 1.8. I exclude from these the later Pentacon lenses, derived or supposedly similar, I don't think they are the same thing. The Lydith is also quite cheap, and has a similar signature. All three are a pleasure to use, although certainly one either likes their character or not. The older Meyers are even more odd, from Trioplan to many other odd optics. Prior to the Oreston, I have a Primotar. A cute lens for sure, but short lived and transitional. One other fantastic lens is a 50/1.4 which name escapes right now (rare), but from the samples from verybigl, would be in my list if not for the highly collectively nature.

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Yeah, Meyer has some interesting lenses. I may have the Primotar but never really test it. The Trioplan 100 is so sought after that the price is quite high. I am not a big fan of bubble bokeh so didn't proceed finding one.

The 50mm 1.4 you meant is from Meyer? I couldn't recall it either. Anyways, these lenses are quite difficult to get in the US.

vivaldibow said:

fferreres said:

vivaldibow said:

PhotosByHall said:

vivaldibow said:

Appreciate this plant that brings brightness in this winter

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I've got an Oreston 100 on order.

Looking forwards to trying it out...

Nice shot.

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Thanks. This was my first shot with Meyer Orestor 100mm, probably at MFD. The background looks pretty smooth to me. Enjoy yours.

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I love the nostalgic look that this lens gives. Same with the Oreston 1.8. I exclude from these the later Pentacon lenses, derived or supposedly similar, I don't think they are the same thing. The Lydith is also quite cheap, and has a similar signature. All three are a pleasure to use, although certainly one either likes their character or not. The older Meyers are even more odd, from Trioplan to many other odd optics. Prior to the Oreston, I have a Primotar. A cute lens for sure, but short lived and transitional. One other fantastic lens is a 50/1.4 which name escapes right now (rare), but from the samples from verybigl, would be in my list if not for the highly collectively nature.

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Yeah, Meyer has some interesting lenses. I may have the Primotar but never really test it. The Trioplan 100 is so sought after that the price is quite high. I am not a big fan of bubble bokeh so didn't proceed finding one.

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Me neither, at least not as the main pony trick of lens.

vivaldibow said:

The 50mm 1.4 you meant is from Meyer?

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I misspoke, it’s f2. The lens is called Domiron. It can have strong outlining, not sure if this is from the samples I’ve seen or varies by lens state.

It’s rather precise and there aren’t many copies, some arguing that Jena, who supplied the glass, wasn’t very thilled and at the time decisions weren’t much market driven there. Jena supplied glass, and had the Biotar or Pancolar. I am not sure of the details, what is certain is that it was high quality, and short lived.

Here are some samples from vbl:




They have this signature, moody melancholic and in addition very saturated look and wild-crazy bokeh (In addition to outlining).

vivaldibow said:

I couldn't recall it either. Anyways, these lenses are quite difficult to get in the US.

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Yes, often found in Germany, Poland, etc. Very rare to come by, but a lens I’d keep and cherish if I stumbled upon one

fferreres said:

vivaldibow said:

fferreres said:

vivaldibow said:

PhotosByHall said:

vivaldibow said:

Appreciate this plant that brings brightness in this winter

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I've got an Oreston 100 on order.

Looking forwards to trying it out...

Nice shot.

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Thanks. This was my first shot with Meyer Orestor 100mm, probably at MFD. The background looks pretty smooth to me. Enjoy yours.

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I love the nostalgic look that this lens gives. Same with the Oreston 1.8. I exclude from these the later Pentacon lenses, derived or supposedly similar, I don't think they are the same thing. The Lydith is also quite cheap, and has a similar signature. All three are a pleasure to use, although certainly one either likes their character or not. The older Meyers are even more odd, from Trioplan to many other odd optics. Prior to the Oreston, I have a Primotar. A cute lens for sure, but short lived and transitional. One other fantastic lens is a 50/1.4 which name escapes right now (rare), but from the samples from verybigl, would be in my list if not for the highly collectively nature.

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Yeah, Meyer has some interesting lenses. I may have the Primotar but never really test it. The Trioplan 100 is so sought after that the price is quite high. I am not a big fan of bubble bokeh so didn't proceed finding one.

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Me neither, at least not as the main pony trick of lens.

fferreres said:

The 50mm 1.4 you meant is from Meyer?

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I misspoke, it’s f2. The lens is called Domiron. It can have strong outlining, not sure if this is from the samples I’ve seen or varies by lens state.

It’s rather precise and there aren’t many copies, some arguing that Jena, who supplied the glass, wasn’t very thilled and at the time decisions weren’t much market driven there. Jena supplied glass, and had the Biotar or Pancolar. I am not sure of the details, what is certain is that it was high quality, and short lived.

Here are some samples from vbl:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4489547

They have this signature, moody melancholic and in addition very saturated look and wild-crazy bokeh (In addition to outlining).

fferreres said:

I couldn't recall it either. Anyways, these lenses are quite difficult to get in the US.

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Yes, often found in Germany, Poland, etc. Very rare to come by, but a lens I’d keep and cherish if I stumbled upon one

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Yep - I want a Domiron too.

They are so rare now though that they are going for £500 on Ebay.

Can't justify that. Apparently the Oreston 50 is very close, but doesn't quite have the same character...

M.O.G lenses are awesome though.

I got a trioplan 50 for a folding camera for pennies and its really cool.

Lydith as well, I like it, but it won't focus to infinity on 35mm DSLR and it's very soft wide open - this might be a good portrait look though.

Orestor 100 on order as well.

I was very interested in the MOG lens reboots - but they are too expensive. I hope they will come down in price 2nd hand.

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PhotosByHall said:

Yep - I want a Domiron too.

They are so rare now though that they are going for £500 on Ebay.

Can't justify that. Apparently the Oreston 50 is very close, but doesn't quite have the same character...

M.O.G lenses are awesome though.

I got a trioplan 50 for a folding camera for pennies and its really cool.

Lydith as well, I like it, but it won't focus to infinity on 35mm DSLR and it's very soft wide open - this might be a good portrait look though.

Orestor 100 on order as well.

I was very interested in the MOG lens reboots - but they are too expensive. I hope they will come down in price 2nd hand.

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Oreston 50/1.8 is an OK lens, nothing special though in my experience but it can create some nice flaring. Early models are well built later ones are cheap - Pentacon build quality.

If you are looking for a lens with the signature rendering, cheaper that Domiron, I would suggest Primoplan 58/1.9

Softer wide open but with a very unique mix of aberrations, Primoplan series by Meyer Optik were their flagship and 58/1.9 is affordable (not cheap but cheaper than Domiron at 200-400 USD).

Primoplan was a Meyer alternative to Zeiss Biotar (Planar) but with 5 elements in 4 groups (instead 6/4 Biotar), so it was a bit cheaper.

You should reveal really interesting rendering of Primoplan at f/1.9-2.8, at short to medium focusing distances and with the structured background such as tree leaves.

In backlit situations it will loose a contrast and it can also make some nice flares.

Another gate to the specific rendering leads through the interesting land of the projector lenses. These however needs some work to adapt and are usually shot only wide open, but some of them are very cheap.

For fun, here is the Meyer leaflet from 1964 with the prices. Notice that Domiron was already one of the most expensive lenses.


from eBay seller classic-camera-shop



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https://manualsbrain.com/en/manuals/1934236/

You can search for more MoG lenses catalogues by using the search function of the site.

This is is always an interesting read for various lens makers, though for Exakta on the site there are versions for other mounts usually:

https://photobutmore.de/vintagephoto/objektive/

https://photobutmore.de/exakta/meyer/

and this of course:

verybiglebowski said:

Oreston 50/1.8 is an OK lens, nothing special though in my experience but it can create some nice flaring. Early models are well built later ones are cheap - Pentacon build quality.

If you are looking for a lens with the signature rendering, cheaper that Domiron, I would suggest Primoplan 58/1.9

Softer wide open but with a very unique mix of aberrations, Primoplan series by Meyer Optik were their flagship and 58/1.9 is affordable (not cheap but cheaper than Domiron at 200-400 USD).

Primoplan was a Meyer alternative to Zeiss Biotar (Planar) but with 5 elements in 4 groups (instead 6/4 Biotar), so it was a bit cheaper.

You should reveal really interesting rendering of Primoplan at f/1.9-2.8, at short to medium focusing distances and with the structured background such as tree leaves.

In backlit situations it will loose a contrast and it can also make some nice flares.

Another gate to the specific rendering leads through the interesting land of the projector lenses. These however needs some work to adapt and are usually shot only wide open, but some of them are very cheap.

For fun, here is the Meyer leaflet from 1964 with the prices. Notice that Domiron was already one of the most expensive lenses.

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Yeah, it was your Domiron pics that made me want one

Isn't the Oreston about the same, it's a 'great' lens - i.e. excellent optics but 'normal' character? Normal character is not what i am in the vintage game for (also i have LOADS of 50mm's)

I am considering buying a Primoplan at some point.

I've got a lovely start to a projection lens collection - with a RO109-1A and a Meopta Meostigmat f1.

PhotosByHall said:

• PhotosByHall wrote:

verybiglebowski said:

Oreston 50/1.8 is an OK lens, nothing special though in my experience but it can create some nice flaring. Early models are well built later ones are cheap - Pentacon build quality.

If you are looking for a lens with the signature rendering, cheaper that Domiron, I would suggest Primoplan 58/1.9

Softer wide open but with a very unique mix of aberrations, Primoplan series by Meyer Optik were their flagship and 58/1.9 is affordable (not cheap but cheaper than Domiron at 200-400 USD).

Primoplan was a Meyer alternative to Zeiss Biotar (Planar) but with 5 elements in 4 groups (instead 6/4 Biotar), so it was a bit cheaper.

You should reveal really interesting rendering of Primoplan at f/1.9-2.8, at short to medium focusing distances and with the structured background such as tree leaves.

In backlit situations it will loose a contrast and it can also make some nice flares.

Another gate to the specific rendering leads through the interesting land of the projector lenses. These however needs some work to adapt and are usually shot only wide open, but some of them are very cheap.

For fun, here is the Meyer leaflet from 1964 with the prices. Notice that Domiron was already one of the most expensive lenses.

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Yeah, it was your Domiron pics that made me want one

Isn't the Oreston about the same, it's a 'great' lens - i.e. excellent optics but 'normal' character? Normal character is not what i am in the vintage game for (also i have LOADS of 50mm's)

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Yes, Oreston is a quite ordinary 50mm lens and no, it’s not similar to Domiron imho.

PhotosByHall said:

I am considering buying a Primoplan at some point.

I've got a lovely start to a projection lens collection - with a RO109-1A and a Meopta Meostigmat f1.

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Both are very nice lenses, if you don’t have, check Diaplan (Pentacon) 80/2.8 a cheap Trioplan 100/2.8 alternative.

Meostigmat 70/1.4 is another signature lens.

It is just the tip of the iceberg though...

verybiglebowski said:

verybiglebowski said:

• PhotosByHall wrote:

verybiglebowski said:

Oreston 50/1.8 is an OK lens, nothing special though in my experience but it can create some nice flaring. Early models are well built later ones are cheap - Pentacon build quality.

If you are looking for a lens with the signature rendering, cheaper that Domiron, I would suggest Primoplan 58/1.9

Softer wide open but with a very unique mix of aberrations, Primoplan series by Meyer Optik were their flagship and 58/1.9 is affordable (not cheap but cheaper than Domiron at 200-400 USD).

Primoplan was a Meyer alternative to Zeiss Biotar (Planar) but with 5 elements in 4 groups (instead 6/4 Biotar), so it was a bit cheaper.

You should reveal really interesting rendering of Primoplan at f/1.9-2.8, at short to medium focusing distances and with the structured background such as tree leaves.

In backlit situations it will loose a contrast and it can also make some nice flares.

Another gate to the specific rendering leads through the interesting land of the projector lenses. These however needs some work to adapt and are usually shot only wide open, but some of them are very cheap.

For fun, here is the Meyer leaflet from 1964 with the prices. Notice that Domiron was already one of the most expensive lenses.

Click to expand...

Yeah, it was your Domiron pics that made me want one

Isn't the Oreston about the same, it's a 'great' lens - i.e. excellent optics but 'normal' character? Normal character is not what i am in the vintage game for (also i have LOADS of 50mm's)

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Yes, Oreston is a quite ordinary 50mm lens and no, it’s not similar to Domiron imho.

verybiglebowski said:

I am considering buying a Primoplan at some point.

I've got a lovely start to a projection lens collection - with a RO109-1A and a Meopta Meostigmat f1.

Click to expand...

Both are very nice lenses, if you don’t have, check Diaplan (Pentacon) 80/2.8 a cheap Trioplan 100/2.8 alternative.

Meostigmat 70/1.4 is another signature lens.

It is just the tip of the iceberg though...

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Thank you very much guys. Loads of information on Meyer.

verybiglebowski said:

verybiglebowski said:

• PhotosByHall wrote:

verybiglebowski said:

Oreston 50/1.8 is an OK lens, nothing special though in my experience but it can create some nice flaring. Early models are well built later ones are cheap - Pentacon build quality.

If you are looking for a lens with the signature rendering, cheaper that Domiron, I would suggest Primoplan 58/1.9

Softer wide open but with a very unique mix of aberrations, Primoplan series by Meyer Optik were their flagship and 58/1.9 is affordable (not cheap but cheaper than Domiron at 200-400 USD).

Primoplan was a Meyer alternative to Zeiss Biotar (Planar) but with 5 elements in 4 groups (instead 6/4 Biotar), so it was a bit cheaper.

You should reveal really interesting rendering of Primoplan at f/1.9-2.8, at short to medium focusing distances and with the structured background such as tree leaves.

In backlit situations it will loose a contrast and it can also make some nice flares.

Another gate to the specific rendering leads through the interesting land of the projector lenses. These however needs some work to adapt and are usually shot only wide open, but some of them are very cheap.

For fun, here is the Meyer leaflet from 1964 with the prices. Notice that Domiron was already one of the most expensive lenses.

Click to expand...

Yeah, it was your Domiron pics that made me want one

Isn't the Oreston about the same, it's a 'great' lens - i.e. excellent optics but 'normal' character? Normal character is not what i am in the vintage game for (also i have LOADS of 50mm's)

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Yes, Oreston is a quite ordinary 50mm lens and no, it’s not similar to Domiron imho.

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They can go for $30, so there's not much to lose. I think all Meyer lenses from this era are in some sense ordinary. I personally think the (earlier) Oreston is ordinary in a very nice Meyer way.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=oreston+5...gQI/AAAAAAAAPdk/ExWDPvEgn_c/s1600/Tomato.jpeg

But compared to the Domiron or Primoplan, everything is ordinary. Nothing to pay a lot for, and not a lens many would collect. I like mine, and in comparisons, it seems be its own lens, and not just a random clone similar to the typical gauss. It kind of fits with the other Meyer lenses of the era.

verybiglebowski said:

verybiglebowski said:

I am considering buying a Primoplan at some point.

I've got a lovely start to a projection lens collection - with a RO109-1A and a Meopta Meostigmat f1.

Click to expand...

Both are very nice lenses, if you don’t have, check Diaplan (Pentacon) 80/2.8 a cheap Trioplan 100/2.8 alternative.

Meostigmat 70/1.4 is another signature lens.

It is just the tip of the iceberg though...

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The only thing I can shoot during 5 min breaks thru the day, no model release required.

Canon FDn 80-200mm f/4 L: 135mm, f/8 @ 1/500 second


Contax 50mm f/1.4 Planar: f/8 @ 1/320 second


Canon EF 20-70mm f/4 L: f/9 @ 1/80 sec


Contax 50mm f/1.4 Planar: f/11 @ 1/200 second. Gate No. 1



Canon FDn 80-200mm f/4 L: 200mm, f/5.6 @ 1/400 second


Contax 50mm f/1.4 Planar: f/11 @ 1/400 second


Contax 45mm f/2.8 Tessar: f/8 @ 1/1000 second


Contax 45mm f/2.8 Tessar: f/5.6 @ 1/160 second


Contax 45mm f/2.8 Tessar: f/5.6 @ 1/100 second

Great compositions. My favorite is the second to last one with the revolving swirly trucks. Print & frame!

A random selection from the month - it snowed quite regularly!


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Loving your snow scenes (and the Minolta is quite a performer): living in Sussex, snow is a rare and fleeting phenomenon.

nikkor 55mm 3.5 @5.6 2 images stacked.

fferreres said:

Great compositions. My favorite is the second to last one with the revolving swirly trucks. Print & frame!

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Thanks very much!

What an impressive lens (the nikkor). What do you stack with, and do you need a tripod?

fferreres said:

What an impressive lens (the nikkor). What do you stack with, and do you need a tripod?

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yes shot with a tripod. one shot was focused on the front lettering of the lens the second image was focused on the aperture blades. i used PS and just cut the sharp blades out and pasted them on the first image. did some minor adjustments to line it up.

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fferreres said:

What an impressive lens (the nikkor). What do you stack with, and do you need a tripod?

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yes shot with a tripod. one shot was focused on the front lettering of the lens the second image was focused on the aperture blades. i used PS and just cut the sharp blades out and pasted them on the first image. did some minor adjustments to line it up.

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Thanks, I was wondering because when I play with Auto stackers, I don't get very far. Obviously, it requires being familiar with PS operations, once you are, it is quite fun for sure, but I always get stuck at twh is going on with all the modes of the layers and alpha channels. I miss a bit of side-by-side learning. I can learn a lot by picking up a book, buy advanced GUI tools are best interactive_visual learning.