Is the range finder style steadier than the slr one ?

For those of you that have done the comparisons, do you find the range finder style of Fuji cameras (XE or Xpro line) steadier to shoot with vs. the slr style (XT or X line) ? That is in cases where shutter speeds are low, like 1/15 or under. I am thinking that due to the placement of the head being in a more upright/natural position with the range finder style, it could be easier to hold steady (for longer). I've only shot with Fuji range finder so curious to gather people's thoughts. I am not necessarily looking for a scientific comparison.

I am seriously considering the X-S10 as my next camera due to IBIS but other than that, really like the range finder style and dials, in relation to the upcoming XE-4 (which may end up having ibis despite the rumors). My goal is to shoot steady (short) video or long-ish handheld exposures (1-8 sec).

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afragisk said:

For those of you that have done the comparisons, do you find the range finder style of Fuji cameras (XE or Xpro line) steadier to shoot with vs. the slr style (XT or X line) ? That is in cases where shutter speeds are low, like 1/15 or under. I am thinking that due to the placement of the head being in a more upright/natural position with the range finder style, it could be easier to hold steady (for longer). I've only shot with Fuji range finder so curious to gather people's thoughts. I am not necessarily looking for a scientific comparison.

I am seriously considering the X-S10 as my next camera due to IBIS but other than that, really like the range finder style and dials, in relation to the upcoming XE-4 (which may end up having ibis despite the rumors). My goal is to shoot steady (short) video or long-ish handheld exposures (1-8 sec).

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Gimble.

Bob Tullis said:

Gimble.

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Thanks for your input. Regarding the gimble, I would never use one since I am only interested in casual short length family videos. I had bought one at one stage and it was not worth the hassle, for my use cases. Plus it draws too much attention. I just bought the new 10-24 WR which presumably offers one stop more of OIS vs. the original 10-24, so I don't see the lack of ibis as a show stopper for (again, casual) video purposes, more like a nice to have or for those cases where someone else, less experienced, shoots the video.

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Fuji XE-2, Leica D-Lux 7, Fuji 50-140 f/2.8, 56 f/1.2, 27 f/2.8, 10-24 f/4, Rokinon II 8 f/2.8

Back in the film days, when the discussion was about Leica M6 vs Canon F1 (or Nikon F whatever) the answer, for me, was yes. I could hold my M series Leica's about shutter speed slower than my Canon SLR. In the current digital era I would no, at least with Fujifilm bodies. Thanks to IBIS, I can hold my X-T4 bodies at much slower shutter speeds than I can my X-Pro 3.

Not really. I think camera steadiness when hand holding depends on the size and weight of the camera, your hand holding style and skills, grip preference, and of course what lens you are using. The position of the viewfinder is pretty far down the list, at least for me.

No. In the past maybe, because RF cameras did not have to flap a mirror to let the light pass through.

jackkurtz said:

Back in the film days, when the discussion was about Leica M6 vs Canon F1 (or Nikon F whatever) the answer, for me, was yes. I could hold my M series Leica's about shutter speed slower than my Canon SLR. In the current digital era I would no, at least with Fujifilm bodies. Thanks to IBIS, I can hold my X-T4 bodies at much slower shutter speeds than I can my X-Pro 3.

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Excellent response that mirrors my experience with my Leica M3 and Canons film cameras.

I have the E2s, E3 and H1, so there's no way to fairly compare steadiness based on form factor.

My experience with the H1 raises a conundrum with the upcoming release of the X-E4. We'll have to see what feature set it has and what the price point will be compared to the S10. If the processor and sensor is the same with both cameras, what difference will there be? If the E4 does not have IBIS and the prices are similar, I'd have to go with the S10 although I prefer the rangefinder form factor. To me, the S10 throws a spanner in the works of the Fuji marketing scheme, although I think I understand their motivation.

afragisk said:

Bob Tullis said:

Gimble.

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Thanks for your input. Regarding the gimble, I would never use one since I am only interested in casual short length family videos. I had bought one at one stage and it was not worth the hassle, for my use cases. Plus it draws too much attention. I just bought the new 10-24 WR which presumably offers one stop more of OIS vs. the original 10-24, so I don't see the lack of ibis as a show stopper for (again, casual) video purposes, more like a nice to have or for those cases where someone else, less experienced, shoots the video.

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Sure. ANY stabilization is better than none, but with each type there should be reasonable expectations - is what that wordy prior response was meant to convey [g].

Doug MacMillan said:

jackkurtz said:

Back in the film days, when the discussion was about Leica M6 vs Canon F1 (or Nikon F whatever) the answer, for me, was yes. I could hold my M series Leica's about shutter speed slower than my Canon SLR. In the current digital era I would no, at least with Fujifilm bodies. Thanks to IBIS, I can hold my X-T4 bodies at much slower shutter speeds than I can my X-Pro 3.

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Excellent response that mirrors my experience with my Leica M3 and Canons film cameras.

I have the E2s, E3 and H1, so there's no way to fairly compare steadiness based on form factor.

My experience with the H1 raises a conundrum with the upcoming release of the X-E4. We'll have to see what feature set it has and what the price point will be compared to the S10. If the processor and sensor is the same with both cameras, what difference will there be? If the E4 does not have IBIS and the prices are similar, I'd have to go with the S10 although I prefer the rangefinder form factor. To me, the S10 throws a spanner in the works of the Fuji marketing scheme, although I think I understand their motivation.

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Don’t know, but some of that might be simply explained as mirror slap in the DSLR vs. Leica.