Best camera settings for Astro photography.

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I've been pointing my camera towards the sky recently and have a few questions about the optimal camera settings. My goal is to capture the most detail and dynamic range while avoiding noise.

My gut tells me to expose something like this. To my eyes the sky was very dark (by non-adjusted eye standards as I was just 1 min earlier inside in the lights). The image is obviously overexposed but adjustments in post can deal with that.

ISO 6400, 45mm, 2 Sec @ f1.2
ISO 6400, 45mm, 2 Sec @ f1.2

This shot was hand-held by the way, the E-M1iii image stabilization is amazing!



Using Olympus Workspace I did some extreme adjustments to the highlight/shadow curves and got this:

Highlight +14,  Mid -14,  Shadow -10
Highlight +14, Mid -14, Shadow -10

This looks pretty good for a single image nighttime shot of stars. There is a fair amount of noise, mostly chroma, and Topaz DeNoise wasn't really able to improve the image unless you want faint stars to disappear (which I don't).

I know stacking multiple images is the way to go for the best dynamic range but that's not really what this discussion is about. For a single image, what tends to be the best settings?

What are the most useful camera settings and post adjustments to preserve detail of the faint stars and yet darken the background and also get rid of noise?

Is it better to overexpose and darken in post?

I tried a few shots at 4 seconds handheld but that was a bit much for the camera to handle (visible movement trails). It's amazing how many more stars the camera picks up than your eyes can see. The shot above managed to capture a comet (or something moving) but it seems it was moving too slow for a comet. In the next frame I took it was still there but in a lower position and more faint (space force?). The adjustments I made in post made the tail dissapear more than I would have liked.
 
Should post this question in the astrophotography forum to get a response. As most on this forum don't know the answer.
 
Should post this question in the astrophotography forum to get a response. As most on this forum don't know the answer.
That's a good suggestion but I would expect the answer will depend on the type of camera you use. That's why I posted in the M4/3 forum, many of the camera's share the same or very similar sensor. Also, there will be many more Olympus Workspace users here.
 
I’d be tempted to reduce the exposure and decrease to ISO 3200, then stack multiple exposures. You are right to keep the time down when using a 45mm lens
 
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The first thing you will need however is using a tripod.
 
Jeff Wahaus wrote:What are the most useful camera settings and post adjustments to preserve detail of the faint stars and yet darken the background and also get rid of noise?
 
I tried a few shots at 4 seconds handheld but that was a bit much for the camera to handle (visible movement trails). It's amazing how many more stars the camera picks up than your eyes can see. The shot above managed to capture a comet (or something moving) but it seems it was moving too slow for a comet. In the next frame I took it was still there but in a lower position and more faint (space force?). The adjustments I made in post made the tail dissapear more than I would have liked.
It is very likely that you just captured an artificial satellite.
 
Finally, I would rather give a try to the 7-14mm f2.8 that you own. You'll have a much higher flexibility with your composition.

The main question here is : what do you want to capture ?
 
Jeff Wahaus wrote:What are the most useful camera settings and post adjustments to preserve detail of the faint stars and yet darken the background and also get rid of noise?
Thanks! It's amazing how many miss the topic of the thread.

This thread was cross posted in the Astrophotography Forum.
 
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Jeff Wahaus wrote:What are the most useful camera settings and post adjustments to preserve detail of the faint stars and yet darken the background and also get rid of noise?
Thanks! It's amazing how many miss the topic of the thread.
Or how determined the OP is to ask a question but not listen to responses.
Huh? A tripod has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. I know a tripod is good, I have several. That's not what I'm asking.
 
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Jeff Wahaus wrote:What are the most useful camera settings and post adjustments to preserve detail of the faint stars and yet darken the background and also get rid of noise?
Thanks! It's amazing how many miss the topic of the thread.
Or how determined the OP is to ask a question but not listen to responses.
Huh? A tripod has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. I know a tripod is good, I have several. That's not what I'm asking.
"Minutes of stacked exposure" is the setting. A tripod is, if you think so, optional. To the rest of us, obvious.
 
Jeff Wahaus wrote:What are the most useful camera settings and post adjustments to preserve detail of the faint stars and yet darken the background and also get rid of noise?
Thanks! It's amazing how many miss the topic of the thread.
Or how determined the OP is to ask a question but not listen to responses.
Huh? A tripod has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. I know a tripod is good, I have several. That's not what I'm asking.
"Minutes of stacked exposure" is the setting. A tripod is, if you think so, optional. To the rest of us, obvious.
Right, but I specifically asked about a single (and not multiple stacked) exposures. If you don't know the answer then that's okay.
 
..My goal is to capture the most detail and dynamic range while avoiding noise.

...For a single image, what tends to be the best settings?
I suppose that you want setting for RAWs.
Then for E-M1III best setting for astro is ISO200 for DR and ISO2000 for compromise between DR and read noise.
So if I make 2 exposures, 1st at ISO 200, 2nd at ISO 2000 (same aperture and shutter speed) what will be the difference in post processing capability as far as noise and detail of faint stars?
 
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Yes, I've been hearing that ISO 2000 is the sweet spot. But, why would you stop down this lens to f/4 for stars? Seems like f/2.8 at half the time would have been better?
 
I shot this with the 7-14 f4 4/3 lens not the m4/3... as for the moment I don’t see any need to buy the m4/3 ....
 
I suppose that you want setting for RAWs.
Then for E-M1III best setting for astro is ISO200 for DR and ISO2000 for compromise between DR and read noise.
So if I make 2 exposures, 1st at ISO 200, 2nd at ISO 2000 (same aperture and shutter speed) what will be the difference in post processing capability as far as noise and detail of faint stars?
At ISO200 there is much more (10×) headspace before images of stars are oversaturated.
At ISO2000 there will be more oversaturated stars (although faint stars should be fine) but if sky is very dark, lower read noise and better quantization means slightly better results for large objects (nebulaes).


In practice it's much more complicated as brightness of stars (objects), brightness of the sky, type of lens and aperture and shutter speed all plays important role and one cannot simply detach them from the problem.


For example for longer exposures (10's of seconds) of wide angle lens it's better to use low ISO.
For shorter exposures with wide angle lens it can be better to use higher ISO.
 

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