Anyone considering Capture One 21 for Fujifilm upgrade

It's 40 bucks. You can spend 40 bucks on in a long day out taking pictures on lunch and dinner. :-D
It's not 40, it's 109 or 149 that someone in the US would pay. But C1 is free to set its pricing as it likes, although it goes all over the place.

An actual objection that I have: The email from C1 is made in a foreign currency (US$) instead of my own and then they mention the pricing may vary according to location, and that we should look on the site, which is also not exactly cleae. NB - C1 knows my location, and knows in which currency it invoiced me before. I'm sorry, but that is really lazy from C1
Why do your think C1 knows your location? They don't know mine since I never go on line without using my VPN. They know the location of the VPN server I happen to be using which I change daily but not mine.
It is quite common that companies doing business internationally us one currency to state prices. Often but not always it is the USD.
 
Why do your think C1 knows your location? They don't know mine since I never go on line without using my VPN. They know the location of the VPN server I happen to be using which I change daily but not mine.
Perhaps from the address or currency on the invoice?

It is quite common that companies doing business internationally us one currency to state prices. Often but not always it is the USD.
Perhaps -- DxO gives me prices in EUR. ;) Both on the website and in promo e-mails.
 
$180/yr and I always have the latest version.
 
BTW for what it's worth, this is a video showing off all features of C1-21:

 
I had used ACDSee for a few years, but when I switched to Fuji, I found that it really doesn't work too well with the RAW files. Very blurry and the color is off. In C1, it is sharp and the colors are better. Just my opinion and YMMV...
 
Phase One sent me a message saying that they're going to update the upgrade price of Capture One 21 for Fujifilm from $109 to $149 on January 11th. Has anyone gotten and used the 21 version and do you think the enhanced and additional features of the new version is worth making the upgrade now to avoid the price increase?
It's 40 bucks. You can spend 40 bucks on in a long day out taking pictures on lunch and dinner. :-D You won't have to belly up again for a couple years. I have version 21 since I tend to keep up to date on S/W releases for a lot of reasons, bug fixes, security patches, etc., along with new features. Capture One 21 will also support the new Apple architecture natively which is a performance improvement with an update this year.

C1, Lightroom, etc. are all mature products and as such just like cameras, most improvements are going to be incremental. I am also of the mind why spend 500 to a thousand bucks or more on a new lens, 1500 to 2 K on a camera and cripple the whole process by "cheaping out" on the processing S/W.

That's my view for what it is worth.
No, it's not $40 bucks. That would be a no-brainer for me. It's $109 now or $149 if I decide to wait. Since I purchased Capture One 20 fairly recently for about that amount, it amounts to doubling the price. Yes, I spend way more on cameras so if it's justified I'll do it. Have to admit I was a bit put off by the decision to raise the price by such a large percentage after introduction though. Bad optics in my opinion, but maybe that's just me.
 
Just one man's opinion, but Thom Hogan ran an article on Capture One pricing today.

Thom Hogan's Opinion on Capture One Pricing
Thanks for sharing that. He captures very effectively how I was feeling about it. Prior to buying Capture One 20 about 3-6 months ago, I couldn't keep up with the different offers and pricing I was getting from them. I finally bit for what though was a decent price. The initial upgrade price for going to 21 seemed a bit high to me, and then when I got the "we are raising the price" email it really put me off. I intend to hold off and wait for them to offer me 50% off that sometime in the future, maybe. Who knows, may 75% off... :)
 
Just one man's opinion, but Thom Hogan ran an article on Capture One pricing today.

Thom Hogan's Opinion on Capture One Pricing
Thanks for sharing that. He captures very effectively how I was feeling about it. Prior to buying Capture One 20 about 3-6 months ago, I couldn't keep up with the different offers and pricing I was getting from them. I finally bit for what though was a decent price. The initial upgrade price for going to 21 seemed a bit high to me, and then when I got the "we are raising the price" email it really put me off. I intend to hold off and wait for them to offer me 50% off that sometime in the future, maybe. Who knows, may 75% off... :)
The upgrade pricing really doesn't make sense when places like B&H sell a full license for $179 (on sale). Let's see, upgrade my existing license for $199 through them or just buy new from B&H? No brainer...

 
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BTW for what it's worth, this is a video showing off all features of C1-21:

Process some photos in capture one 20 and then in 21 and then tell me the upgrade price is worth it.
It seems a lot of features are aimed at new users, but some could speed up your workflow.

That speedup might be worth something.

For the rest -- yeah, if you really need that new dehaze, or support for the latest camera models.

Is the X-S10 already supported by C1?
 
Affinity's raw deveolpement is OK but if you want to drop highlights or raise shadows very much at all the colours go to pot (apologies for the technical jargon) and C1 is loads better for that. Pro Standard profiles don't extend to Fuji, even were I convinced I needed them.

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BTW for what it's worth, this is a video showing off all features of C1-21:

Process some photos in capture one 20 and then in 21 and then tell me the upgrade price is worth it.
It seems a lot of features are aimed at new users, but some could speed up your workflow.

That speedup might be worth something.
i appreciate speedups but there really isnt much note worthy in v21. Speed edit is ok but again not really going to see any significant gains as c1 v20 is already fast workflow.
For the rest -- yeah, if you really need that new dehaze, or support for the latest camera models.
I dont use dehaze in my other tools, c1 is already has good tools to get what you want
Is the X-S10 already supported by C1?
not in v20 but its in v21 which would probably be the biggest reason for anyone, shame that software companys now deliberately stop future camera models from working and call it an upgrade to get them to work in new releases.
 
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Affinity's raw deveolpement is OK but if you want to drop highlights or raise shadows very much at all the colours go to pot (apologies for the technical jargon) and C1 is loads better for that. Pro Standard profiles don't extend to Fuji, even were I convinced I needed them.
agree

also regarding the pro standard profiles, initially i thought they were quite good but then realised they are quite off in some areas. They seem more optimised for portrait for instance and are pretty bad for landscapes imo, blue sky blows out too much and orange/yellow/reds are too muted so are bad for sunsets. I think there was one fuji pro standard profile but that might of been in beta.
 
BTW for what it's worth, this is a video showing off all features of C1-21:

Process some photos in capture one 20 and then in 21 and then tell me the upgrade price is worth it.
It seems a lot of features are aimed at new users, but some could speed up your workflow.

That speedup might be worth something.
i appreciate speedups but there really isnt much note worthy in v21. Speed edit is ok but again not really going to see any significant gains as c1 v20 is already fast workflow.
For the rest -- yeah, if you really need that new dehaze, or support for the latest camera models.
I dont use dehaze in my other tools, c1 is already has good tools to get what you want
Is the X-S10 already supported by C1?
not in v20 but its in v21 which would probably be the biggest reason for anyone, shame that software companys now deliberately stop future camera models from working and call it an upgrade to get them to work in new releases.
There is not a hope in hell that I would upgrade. What Capture 1 has done though is made me look at other products to achieve my RAW processing needs. What Maltmoose wrote above in bold is 100% accurate.

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There is not a hope in hell that I would upgrade. What Capture 1 has done though is made me look at other products to achieve my RAW processing needs. What Maltmoose wrote above in bold is 100% accurate.

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I'm very much in the same boat at present. I'm going to take another look at DarkTable.
 
overpriced imho, but if don't upgrade, you may not get the new film simulations, support for new cameras and lenses down the road.
 
It's 40 bucks. You can spend 40 bucks on in a long day out taking pictures on lunch and dinner. :-D
It's not 40, it's 109 or 149 that someone in the US would pay. But C1 is free to set its pricing as it likes, although it goes all over the place.

An actual objection that I have: The email from C1 is made in a foreign currency (US$) instead of my own and then they mention the pricing may vary according to location, and that we should look on the site, which is also not exactly cleae. NB - C1 knows my location, and knows in which currency it invoiced me before. I'm sorry, but that is really lazy from C1
Why do your think C1 knows your location?
Through their payment handler. For VAT&audit-reasons, EU-companies are required to log the location of the invoiced party. I think in the US, this would be comparable to sales tax, which I believe is also location-dependent.
It is quite common that companies doing business internationally us one currency to state prices. Often but not always it is the USD.
I know, but for EU-companies, it's not common practice to contact EU-customers with offers in a third-country-currency, but that's not the main annoyance (I do a lot of transactions in all kinds of currencies) In this case, C1 knows the location, and the site itself is also a bit of a mess regarding the various offers. Therefore I consider it lame to announce a substantial price increase with a very generic email. It's not that difficult to make a clear and correct email on specific pricing, instead of a vague "prices may vary based on location".

Sorry for the rant :D
 
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