SteveinLouisville
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Interesting! I don't think my compute has the horsepower to run this program, though.
It is offered in a kit with the RP. I think the kit price was a little over $1,200USD not long ago.If I were Canon, I would have the 24-240 as the default kit lens with the RP.I think the 24-240mm is being discounted because there is a lack of budget RF zooms to put in camera kits for the RP and other lower end cameras Canon might offer. They have the 24-105 STM and the 24-240 and this is all. If more lower budget lenses are offered then I expect the 24-240 will stabilize at a higher price, which I think it can support.By comparison, the 24-240 is inexpensive and becomes a great single"walk-around" lens when you don't want to carry a bunch of lenses or you don't want to take time to change lenses for a spur of the moment shot. Basically, it is for a different shooting situation, much as even a classic 2.8L zoom lens can't compete with a good prime.I'm genuinely curious, if you have a 70-200, why not just get a 15-35 and 24-70/28-70 aswell to cover the focal lengths as you said yourself this lens is useless in low light.
What I love about the 24-240 that is is very predictable what you are going to get and it is very sharp in the center even wide open at any focal length.
BTW, I was already planning on getting either the RF15-35f2.8L (which I have since bought) or the (rumored) RF14-35f4L. I have also ordered a refurbished RF24-70f2.8L. I don't plan on getting a 70-200 as I think the 24-270 will do for my needs. I might think about the 100-500 someday.
What I don't fully appreciate is why it is being discounted so much these days. It suggests that the lens is not as popular as I think it should be. Similarly, the RP is being discounted. It could mean that more pro/high-end shooters buying into the RF system, but not more average camera enthusiasts.
I don't quite follow your logic. Are you saying they are doing it to encourage RP sales? If so, it should be in a kit offering. A person starting out could do pretty well with the RP, RF50f1.8 and RF24-240.
$1200 for an RP and a 24-240 lens would be a too good to pass up deal.It is offered in a kit with the RP. I think the kit price was a little over $1,200USD not long ago.If I were Canon, I would have the 24-240 as the default kit lens with the RP.I think the 24-240mm is being discounted because there is a lack of budget RF zooms to put in camera kits for the RP and other lower end cameras Canon might offer. They have the 24-105 STM and the 24-240 and this is all. If more lower budget lenses are offered then I expect the 24-240 will stabilize at a higher price, which I think it can support.By comparison, the 24-240 is inexpensive and becomes a great single"walk-around" lens when you don't want to carry a bunch of lenses or you don't want to take time to change lenses for a spur of the moment shot. Basically, it is for a different shooting situation, much as even a classic 2.8L zoom lens can't compete with a good prime.I'm genuinely curious, if you have a 70-200, why not just get a 15-35 and 24-70/28-70 aswell to cover the focal lengths as you said yourself this lens is useless in low light.
What I love about the 24-240 that is is very predictable what you are going to get and it is very sharp in the center even wide open at any focal length.
BTW, I was already planning on getting either the RF15-35f2.8L (which I have since bought) or the (rumored) RF14-35f4L. I have also ordered a refurbished RF24-70f2.8L. I don't plan on getting a 70-200 as I think the 24-270 will do for my needs. I might think about the 100-500 someday.
What I don't fully appreciate is why it is being discounted so much these days. It suggests that the lens is not as popular as I think it should be. Similarly, the RP is being discounted. It could mean that more pro/high-end shooters buying into the RF system, but not more average camera enthusiasts.
I don't quite follow your logic. Are you saying they are doing it to encourage RP sales? If so, it should be in a kit offering. A person starting out could do pretty well with the RP, RF50f1.8 and RF24-240.
So this lens is on par with my RF 28-70 f2... Because the BODY makes all the difference?Perhaps on YOUR body no doubt this could be true. I and a few others on the forum have been rather shocked how competent it can be on a R5 and R6 body. I know, no fair but the body used makes ALL the difference. Low light isn't much of a challenge for this lens in my experience with it thus far. On R or RP bodies I guess it's not so muchFirst, this lens is useless in real low light.
Not hardly. Why even bother comparing a "specialized" lens vs. a more common lens? Makes no sense. I was simply responding to the comments I knew to NOT be applicable to all bodies. The RF28-70 f2.0 will misbehave on the wrong body and not used properly as well.So this lens is on par with my RF 28-70 f2... Because the BODY makes all the difference?Perhaps on YOUR body no doubt this could be true. I and a few others on the forum have been rather shocked how competent it can be on a R5 and R6 body. I know, no fair but the body used makes ALL the difference. Low light isn't much of a challenge for this lens in my experience with it thus far. On R or RP bodies I guess it's not so muchFirst, this lens is useless in real low light.
Gotcha.
Not hardly. Why even bother comparing a "specialized" lens vs. a more common lens? Makes no sense. I was simply responding to the comments I knew to NOT be applicable to all bodies. The RF28-70 f2.0 will misbehave on the wrong body and not used properly as well.So this lens is on par with my RF 28-70 f2... Because the BODY makes all the difference?Perhaps on YOUR body no doubt this could be true. I and a few others on the forum have been rather shocked how competent it can be on a R5 and R6 body. I know, no fair but the body used makes ALL the difference. Low light isn't much of a challenge for this lens in my experience with it thus far. On R or RP bodies I guess it's not so muchFirst, this lens is useless in real low light.
Gotcha.
Yes, it was a great deal that got me off the fence to get going with full-frame mirrorless. It was not really a "kit" but rather a special they were running on the Canon Refurb site.$1200 for an RP and a 24-240 lens would be a too good to pass up deal.It is offered in a kit with the RP. I think the kit price was a little over $1,200USD not long ago.If I were Canon, I would have the 24-240 as the default kit lens with the RP.I think the 24-240mm is being discounted because there is a lack of budget RF zooms to put in camera kits for the RP and other lower end cameras Canon might offer. They have the 24-105 STM and the 24-240 and this is all. If more lower budget lenses are offered then I expect the 24-240 will stabilize at a higher price, which I think it can support.By comparison, the 24-240 is inexpensive and becomes a great single"walk-around" lens when you don't want to carry a bunch of lenses or you don't want to take time to change lenses for a spur of the moment shot. Basically, it is for a different shooting situation, much as even a classic 2.8L zoom lens can't compete with a good prime.I'm genuinely curious, if you have a 70-200, why not just get a 15-35 and 24-70/28-70 aswell to cover the focal lengths as you said yourself this lens is useless in low light.
What I love about the 24-240 that is is very predictable what you are going to get and it is very sharp in the center even wide open at any focal length.
BTW, I was already planning on getting either the RF15-35f2.8L (which I have since bought) or the (rumored) RF14-35f4L. I have also ordered a refurbished RF24-70f2.8L. I don't plan on getting a 70-200 as I think the 24-270 will do for my needs. I might think about the 100-500 someday.
What I don't fully appreciate is why it is being discounted so much these days. It suggests that the lens is not as popular as I think it should be. Similarly, the RP is being discounted. It could mean that more pro/high-end shooters buying into the RF system, but not more average camera enthusiasts.
I don't quite follow your logic. Are you saying they are doing it to encourage RP sales? If so, it should be in a kit offering. A person starting out could do pretty well with the RP, RF50f1.8 and RF24-240.
I never said the body makes ALL the difference. But as we ALL know the focus chops of the R5 are a far cry from a RP or R.Well you did say the body makes all the difference, that's not entirely true...
What is the "wrong body" for a 28-70 2.0L? The options are RP, R. R-5 and R-6. I am going to guess that the RP is the wrong body. Correct?The RF28-70 f2.0 will misbehave on the wrong body and not used properly as well.
I don't feel the RP is an ideal mate if for no other reason then NO options for any image stabilization. For those that have no issues keeping their ISO's up to keep shutter speeds acceptable it would work (optically) fine. Just too many compromises. Let's face it....the RF28-70 f2.0 was NOT intended by design for the lower line of the R series cameras. That's not an insult it's more common sense.What is the "wrong body" for a 28-70 2.0L? The options are RP, R. R-5 and R-6. I am going to guess that the RP is the wrong body. Correct?The RF28-70 f2.0 will misbehave on the wrong body and not used properly as well.
Was this done with Topaz?Interesting! I don't think my compute has the horsepower to run this program, though.
I don't think Canon intended it for any particular camera in the R series. I think they designed and built the very best 28-70 zoom they could and chose f2.0 because they could do it. It is more of a vanity project than anything else, sort of the way the EF 50 1.0 was when it came out. "Look at what we can do!!"I don't feel the RP is an ideal mate if for no other reason then NO options for any image stabilization. For those that have no issues keeping their ISO's up to keep shutter speeds acceptable it would work (optically) fine. Just too many compromises. Let's face it....the RF28-70 f2.0 was NOT intended by design for the lower line of the R series cameras. That's not an insult it's more common sense.What is the "wrong body" for a 28-70 2.0L? The options are RP, R. R-5 and R-6. I am going to guess that the RP is the wrong body. Correct?The RF28-70 f2.0 will misbehave on the wrong body and not used properly as well.
This lens requires a flash to work indoors?
In my opinion, yes. Here is one I shot last night, no flash in a room illuminated only by an overhead ceiling fan light. ISO 25600, f4.0 @ 24mm. Zoom in and it gets worse. This is a lens you don't use indoors unless you have a flash.This lens requires a flash to work indoors?

I agree with that. Flash (bounced) makes for pleasing exposures with plenty of detail. The bounce takes the harshness out of the light source and makes it look more natural. However, I have shot no flash pictures with slow zooms and then turned them into something moody or atmospheric. Two examples, shot in a dark bar 15 years ago with my 10D and 50 1.4 @ ISO 3200If full room illumination is one's goal, then absolutely a flash will save the day. But there are indeed times when the "mood" is what one is going for and a flash is an intrusion. Every application has it's day.


I agree with that. The light level is the important thing in the room. This was dark room at night. Only one dim overhead light source. I am actually impressed that it turned out as good as it did. Even my slow 40mm 2.8 pancake could take acceptable pictures in this light. I have had pretty good high ISO results with the RP.I was going to suggest that it depends on the room. A room that has large windows that face south (northern hemisphere), plenty of auxiliary light, and high white ceilings might let you get away without a flash. You’ll still be pushing ISO’s in the 3,000 plus range. Flash certainly improves things.
Have the 35 f/1.8 just for this reason.