i just googled Peter Lik..............well.......KR all is forgiven
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which photographic errors will most likely lead to criticisms on forums ...
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Phil A Martin
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ThrillaMozilla
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I think they both need to juice up their images a bit.
Quarkcharmed
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What's wrong with Peter Lik?
Yes he's 1/3 photographer and 2/3 entrepreneur. But his photography is quite decent, despite there was some controversy around the moon shot, actual selling prices of the ghost shot etc. Is his work groundbreaking? Probably not.
Ken Rockwell as a photographer is pretty average and definitely not on par with Peter Lik.
Yes he's 1/3 photographer and 2/3 entrepreneur. But his photography is quite decent, despite there was some controversy around the moon shot, actual selling prices of the ghost shot etc. Is his work groundbreaking? Probably not.
Ken Rockwell as a photographer is pretty average and definitely not on par with Peter Lik.
Phil A Martin
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Quarkcharmed
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They're popular figures.
Tony Northrup is also mentioned quite often here, as an example.
Platographer
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Definitely silence. When I post photos, I'm usually looking for feedback to better my skills. I know there are some very experienced photographers here who are kind enough to provide their thoughts. The harshest, yet constructive, feedback I received on my early photos was immensely helpful at identifying some basic areas where I could improve on composition and exposure.
Giving a single squirt about the opinions of other photographers regarding your images vis a vis artistic decisions is the biggest error.
Really, just make images YOU liked and don't worry about the "criticisms" of other photographers.
Especially on these forums.
Really, just make images YOU liked and don't worry about the "criticisms" of other photographers.
Especially on these forums.
Phil A Martin
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But out of the vast number of more talented photographers in the world, why are these two so popular?
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Smart thing to do. Requires detaching the “you” vs “that photo”. Even if not all critique is valid, you become aware of possibilities.
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MPrince
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Marketing skill trumps photography skill.
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ILikeBigBodiesAndICannotLie
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bad processing
ILikeBigBodiesAndICannotLie
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LOL!
both great captures.
both great captures.
Phil A Martin
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Yes but that still doesn't explain why he is so popular here, whilst others are ignored and even denigrated. If I was to be uncharitable, I'd suggest that for many here, the only criteria for judging his work, is not its quality but the price he gets for it.
The price he gets is the only thing that makes him remarkable. But why he gets so much notice here, is because his work is also accessible. Contrast him with Andreas Gursky. There is certainly a discussion in the valuation of some of his work, but that discussion entails actually understanding art. Talking about Lik doesn't. Lik is a relatively straightforward photographer doing art, whereas Gursky is anything but straightforward.
PhotoFactor
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It's really easy to criticize, and a lot harder to work hard and put a bunch of content out that some people might not like. I don't see big YT channels from Martin or Buddha or Quark.
Which is orthagonal to both art and critique. Critique, BTW, is different to criticism.
You have no idea if this is a true statement, you are making an assumption.
And it is irrelevant regardless. It avoids dealing with the merit in the words rather than engage with it.
Phil A Martin
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I'm not sure what YT channels have to do with my comments nor do your comments explain why there is such a narrow focus with regard to world photography in these forums. Why is there such resistance to discussing any photographers other than Lik and Rockwell? Your personal focus on mine and others nonexistent YT channels, would seem to suggest you have no answer to this question other than to use personal critcism to deflect away from the discussion.
Quarkcharmed
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They managed to gain popularity which is not always (even rarely is) the same as producing masterpieces.
Why they get mentions on this forum - because they became trendy. The forum members see Keen Rockwell mentioned and use his name later in their own posts.
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Certainly the people complaining about the high profile photographers are free to bring up other names as examples of good work.
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