Barry Twycross
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What about a blue sky? That you have one? That you don't have one?Here's another goody. Blue sky.
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which photographic errors will most likely lead to criticisms on forums ...
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Yes, but with Luminar AI it doesn't matter what sky, if any, you have, it's up to your mouse to decide, making anything above the horizon obsolete.What about a blue sky? That you have one? That you don't have one?Here's another goody. Blue sky.
...rather than a criticism I see commonly levelled: an obsession with "bokeh".
This leads to a desire to take pictures at f/1.4 to get the best "bokeh" out of the bokehliscious lens in question but often at the expense of only having one eye in focus.
"Bokeh" is just background, capturing the subject well has to come first.
This leads to a desire to take pictures at f/1.4 to get the best "bokeh" out of the bokehliscious lens in question but often at the expense of only having one eye in focus.
"Bokeh" is just background, capturing the subject well has to come first.
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I've seen things go south even when people did ask for comments. What many (most?) people seem to want when the ask for comments are *good* comments, but they don't want to have to say that.Unless someone asks for comment, I would typically hold my breath - a lop-sided horizon perhaps being an exception.However, when asked, I have no problem offering constructive comments, which include both the good and the bad. To me, critiques are an integral part of photography for those that are serious about their work.
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what if you took an image and missed eye focus , over sharpened it , over saturated it , did not get the horizon level and it had halos ?
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Well, if I put it out there for comments, I'd say, "Aside from the missed focus, oversharpening, oversaturation, off-level, and halos, how do y'all like this photo? Positive comments only, of course." ;-)
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here is a great one
fantastic sunset over a rocky beach .... perfect exposure and composition
you are sure you will get many "likes"
instead the very first post is someone who has noticed that you shot the image at F16 and they have looked up the technical optical specs of the lens and point out that you have exceeded the "diffraction limits " and introduced some slight softening when the file is viewed at very high magnifications
"it's rare that anything good comes from criticizing a photo, even constructively ..."
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fantastic sunset over a rocky beach .... perfect exposure and composition
you are sure you will get many "likes"
instead the very first post is someone who has noticed that you shot the image at F16 and they have looked up the technical optical specs of the lens and point out that you have exceeded the "diffraction limits " and introduced some slight softening when the file is viewed at very high magnifications
"it's rare that anything good comes from criticizing a photo, even constructively ..."
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Tourlou
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You're right. This is what irritates me the most. Get the whole face in focus for god sake...
ThrillaMozilla
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I said shadows, not pure blackness. It used to be a knee-jerk reaction on DPR to tell everyone to raise the shadows almost to the level of broad daylight, just for the reason that the camera could do it. A knee-jerk is the wrong reason. If you're going to raise the shadows, there needs to be an artistic reason.Where in life do we see shadows so dark that all details are obliterated? "Raising details" in the shadows can raise the depth of an image and make it look more 3D.Raise the shadows.
But we don't see that one much any more. I just ask them what they want to see in the shadows, and refer them to Ansel Adams' photos. Sometimes a shadow is just a shadow.
Great photographers are not afraid of shadows, and sometimes they have a place in photos. Fortunately, "raise the shadows" doesn't seem to be such a knee-jerk reaction any more on DPR. I believe people are thinking more before they raise that objection, and that's a good thing.
a_c_skinner
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Any comparison will inevitably be pilloried as worthless. Doesn't matter what, people always find fault.
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BigBen08
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Yup, how true. And it's a mistake I've made on occasion.
JRP64
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What gets me is a person takes an interesting picture and it gets knocked down because a small part of the image is slightly blurry. The picture overall is actually very good and 90 percent of people never notice the imperfection. Yes, I'm talking about one of my pictures and that is why I stopped asking for online critiques. I can understand constructive criticism, but people went overboard on that one picture that threw me over the edge on asking for critiques. No one said anything good about that image when I had family and friends not say one negative thing about the image. Granted they were biased, but still if it was that horrible of a picture someone would has said that a small part of the image was "blurry". That is why I also don't like giving online critiques online as you always have a person who is the so-called "Expert" chime in and say that you don't know what you are talking about. I will just give good comments on the pictures people post online, not say anything negative about pictures I don't like and just simply enjoy the images that people share. I think critiques should be done in person or in a professional setting (like when sending in an image for publication). Online critiques tend to spiral out of control very rapidly and cause many new people to turn away from photography. At least that is my opinion.
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BigBen08
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Here's an error that pertains to aviation photography. When photographing propeller airplanes in flight, many will shoot at a slow shutter speed to capture prop blur. It adds realism to the photo. If shot at higher speeds the propeller will appear to be frozen - not spinning.
When I first started in digital photography I visited my local airport and photographed several airplanes in flight - all at high shutter speeds. I was proud of my photos and thought they looked great, so I posted a few on a photography site. I got hit with several negative and harsh comments because of the "frozen" propellers. But it was a learning experience for me.
So on aviation or transportation photo sites frozen propellers will lead to criticism.
When I first started in digital photography I visited my local airport and photographed several airplanes in flight - all at high shutter speeds. I was proud of my photos and thought they looked great, so I posted a few on a photography site. I got hit with several negative and harsh comments because of the "frozen" propellers. But it was a learning experience for me.
So on aviation or transportation photo sites frozen propellers will lead to criticism.
Phil A Martin
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Maybe you could provide a link to the picture so we can see what you are concerned about?
But having said that, you can be an internationally recognised photographer, with exhibitions in some of the most prestigious galleries in the world and a list of publications as long as your arm, yet still some bod will give unwarranted criticism for non existent faults with an image. Witness the discussion around Hiroshi Sugimoto the other day.
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I've only ever posted for C&C on the black and white forum and the landscape forum, but in both cases I've had nothing but helpful feedback. As a rule, though, I only post stuff I'm struggling with myself and I explain what I'm looking for help with. I don't consciously fish for compliments although I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy them if or when they happen.
This was one I posted and if you skim through quickly you will see that the edits improve as the thread progresses as I essentially work with the other forum members. A balanced view: B&W vs Colour: Landscape and Travel Photography Forum: Digital Photography Review (dpreview.com)
Some of the DPR forums can be very confrontational but I like it when I can find a little pocket of cooperation and common interest - it's an incredibly powerful tool when you think about it - access to photographers' experience all over the world.
ThrillaMozilla
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It can be a great piece of art, but still, all the people who didn't make the picture, and maybe couldn't have made the picture, are telling you how they how they would have done it better.
The suggestions on DPR do not always make a picture better--but sometimes they do. Sometimes the OP did it better than the kibitzers would have. I view the forums to learn something, as well as sometimes to make suggestions. All you can do is weigh what the suggestions, look at many good pictures for reference, and make your own judgements.
I like to look at the challenges on DPR. Sometimes there are lots of outstanding entries. Nevertheless, even the winners get a lot of lousy ratings. That tells you a lot.
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