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December 2020 Part 2 — This Month Through Your Adapted Lens
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The_WB
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Thank you.
One thing I learned, I now know that this set up works and with the subject at a billion miles distance, infinity focus was achieved.
I like this shot, which goes to show just how subjective bokeh is ;-)...at a restaurant, before everything was forced to close again...
14-10-2020, Blue Collar Hotel
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The perspective provided by the leading lines of the table adds dimension and the bokeh is almost as much of a subject as the glass of beer. That appeals to me.
Very nice scene, framing, great interesting smile. It also shows why I don’t use very fast apertures, which doesn’t mean it’s bad, just that I’d have tried to get mount hand eyes in focus too.. It’s a real huge challenge. In the pic the eyebrows are sharp and the eyes blurred, and the hair (flequillo?) sharp but the mouth is blurred.
RAW, Fujifilm X-T3 + K&F Concept NIK(G)-FX + Voigtlander Nokton 58mm f/1.4
@ f/1.4, 1/85, ISO 640
But it’s really nice and I am nitpicking that I’d have stopped down a bit and used a bit higher ISO.
Very nice portrait. About what s sharp, looks to me the photographer was slightly higher than the subject so the focal plane is tilted backwards, her hair on the forehead is also sharp but we know it s further away from the glasses, this tilt makes her mouth blurrier than what it would actually be if there was no tilt.Very nice scene, framing, great interesting smile. It also shows why I don’t use very fast apertures, which doesn’t mean it’s bad, just that I’d have tried to get mount hand eyes in focus too.. It’s a real huge challenge. In the pic the eyebrows are sharp and the eyes blurred, and the hair (flequillo?) sharp but the mouth is blurred.
RAW, Fujifilm X-T3 + K&F Concept NIK(G)-FX + Voigtlander Nokton 58mm f/1.4
@ f/1.4, 1/85, ISO 640
But it’s really nice and I am nitpicking that I’d have stopped down a bit and used a bit higher ISO.
No, no, no worries, and thanks for the comments.
I share your thoughts here exactly - I`m not really happy mouth/teeth went out of focus (due to slight head downward tilt), and I managed to front-focus on top - manually focusing on the eyes (magnification, focus peaking), but still managed to get the very tip of the nose perceivably (much?) sharper instead.
Also check some of the small, green decoration branches behind the rose, and also the bouquet red mesh - there are parts being very sharp there. I thought blurring them out a bit (nose, too) so they don`t possibly distract, but decided to leave them as is to showcase the lens sharpness, at least... being my own mistake the sharpness fell at the wrong plane, eh.
Otherwise, I really like shooting wide open as much as possible, but it is very true it makes the situation harder, possibly even ruining a shot. Just that when you score a winner, it can be rather magical... aaaand not being a professional but doing it for myself makes the misses easier to accept
Otherwise, when getting the shot is more important, I do stop down myself, too, just in case. Not everyone cares about shallow depth of field (or notices the lack of, even), but a misfocused shot is not too hard to miss, unfortunately.
p.s. I had better (focused) shots in the series, but just liked both the framing and expression here the most, allowing for lacking (even though certainly not unimportant) technicalities to pass this time (especially as how "bad" it may be depends on the size of the screen the image is viewed at, but also on who the viewer is - non-photographers possibly being more "forgiving").
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Thank you, and that is a good observation - the minor difference being that we were around the same height both, but her head was slightly tilted downwards, yet the point you`ve made is the same.
Yes, it's a very energetic, authentic look.No, no, no worries, and thanks for the comments.
I share your thoughts here exactly - I`m not really happy mouth/teeth went out of focus (due to slight head downward tilt), and I managed to front-focus on top - manually focusing on the eyes (magnification, focus peaking), but still managed to get the very tip of the nose perceivably (much?) sharper instead.
Also check some of the small, green decoration branches behind the rose, and also the bouquet red mesh - there are parts being very sharp there. I thought blurring them out a bit (nose, too) so they don`t possibly distract, but decided to leave them as is to showcase the lens sharpness, at least... being my own mistake the sharpness fell at the wrong plane, eh.
Otherwise, I really like shooting wide open as much as possible, but it is very true it makes the situation harder, possibly even ruining a shot. Just that when you score a winner, it can be rather magical... aaaand not being a professional but doing it for myself makes the misses easier to accept
Otherwise, when getting the shot is more important, I do stop down myself, too, just in case. Not everyone cares about shallow depth of field (or notices the lack of, even), but a misfocused shot is not too hard to miss, unfortunately.
p.s. I had better (focused) shots in the series, but just liked both the framing and expression here the most
I think the image works well because it's the right moment.
In these cases you can use take a step back and crop, which extends the DOF significantly. One other thing I learned is that I can't, I don't have enough time to focus with the barrel. Really, we are talking about a very thin DOF. That's one way. Another trick is to just use Continuous Drive and shoot a burts.
A silent shutter helps immensely not to scare the subject. So you can kind of scan the subject slowly. One of them is best. But it adds a lot to culling. But even if one had AF, it's so dark that there's no other way than doing it the way you did it.
My new thought is using video. I started experimenting with my new camera, and I think video is starting to shape like the thing I want to do next. Nice looking renderings. I can use a much slower aperture, because I am going to use maybe 4K, but even 1080 is good if it's moving.
Have you ever though about video? I find they are not interchangeable: for some things, a video, even if 20 seconds, but high quality with the lenses I love, can be a great memory that is hard to do with any photo. But for some others, the static nature of photos is best.
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It’s pretty neat, right?
I recently bought a zoom with AF and short MFD for such occasions. Often there’s no time to manual focus when they are that close and moving so fast.I sometimes go on nature walks with an ornithologist and a group of birders and they just use their phones. I like the speaker because it can be strategically placed so birds are more likely to perch on a spot with good light. Also some birds are more likely to get close if the sound is not coming from the same place as the photographer.
farmer35
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I guess because I can. I picked up a couple of Kodak cine lenses to use on micro four thirds. Then when I got a Z5, of course I had to try them....
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Thank you, being somewhat subjective here I`m glad if that`s the impression you got.
Yeah, I did have shots from further away, too, but here depth of field (or lack of) was the point... just that it didn`t quite worked out as planned, eh.
I don`t mind manual focusing, but I can`t say I`m an expert, and it is really hard at times, trying to get (and keep) focus and still frame as preferred, _and_ still get the right moment on top
I guess we are a bit spoiled nowadays... I know about continuous shooting while rocking slowly (scanning, as you sad), though I didn`t use it so far (not the combination, at least, I do use fixed focus and body swaying with more static subjects often, when depth of field is very shallow)... might need to give it a try.
It would add a need to go through a lot of (mostly throwaway) images after the fact, indeed, so I`m not sure for these "casual" shoots, but it is definitely an option (possibly even a no-brainer one when getting the shot is crucial), so thanks for bringing it up.
Absolutely, totally different kind of memories, and I value and appreciate both.
Fun fact - my grandfather was a hobbyist photographer (dark room in the basement, and all that), while my father is more (and a lot) into videography instead - we have many nice video cassettes from the period of when I was a small kid, and while photos do tell their own story, seeing the picture move and actually hear the person speaking does have its own magic, too, even more once those become some of the best (or only) memories you have.
Being (much) more of a photographer myself (at the moment), I do record videos on occasions, but usually around 30 seconds up to a few minutes at most, trying to get the essence of the moment without making later viewing too much time consuming.
I used to do some video editing years ago, too (think Adobe Premiere), but I don`t have the time for that now (and my current computer setup wouldn`t appreciate all the hard work that much, I`m afraid).
There is one thing that holds me back a bit in regards to more video shooting, though, and that is lack of IBIS in my Fuji X-T3, so using some of my favorite lenses doesn`t provide the most smoothest of footages (and going gimbal would be an overkill, and totally the opposite of my downsizing from full-frame to keep the "photo baggage" at least somewhat in check).
I do see that being addressed in the future, even X-T4 having IBIS now (but I don`t find it a worthy upgrade for IBIS alone, and I really don`t like the changed tilt to flippy screen), so waiting to see what the future brings, no hurry
An’t stabilization be done on post? I wish there was a desktop version of Magisto. I often prefer that than wasting 2 hours.Thank you, being somewhat subjective here I`m glad if that`s the impression you got.
Yeah, I did have shots from further away, too, but here depth of field (or lack of) was the point... just that it didn`t quite worked out as planned, eh.
I don`t mind manual focusing, but I can`t say I`m an expert, and it is really hard at times, trying to get (and keep) focus and still frame as preferred, _and_ still get the right moment on top
I know about continuous shooting while rocking slowly (scanning, as you sad), though I didn`t use it so far (not the combination, at least, I do use fixed focus and body swaying with more static subjects often, when depth of field is very shallow)... might need to give it a try.
It would add a need to go through a lot of (mostly throwaway) images after the fact, indeed, so I`m not sure for these "casual" shoots, but it is definitely an option (possibly even a no-brainer one when getting the shot is crucial), so thanks for bringing it up.
Absolutely, totally different kind of memories, and I value and appreciate both.
Fun fact - my grandfather was a hobbyist photographer (dark room in the basement, and all that), while my father is more (and a lot) into videography instead - we have many nice video cassettes from the period of when I was a small kid, and while photos do tell their own story, seeing the picture move and actually hear the person speaking does have its own magic, too, even more once those become some of the best (or only) memories you have.
Being (much) more of a photographer myself (at the moment), I do record videos on occasions, but usually around 30 seconds up to a few minutes at most, trying to get the essence of the moment without making later viewing too much time consuming.
I used to do some video editing years ago, too (think Adobe Premiere), but I don`t have the time for that now (and my current computer setup wouldn`t appreciate all the hard work that much, I`m afraid).
There is one thing that holds me back a bit in regards to more video shooting, though, and that is lack of IBIS in my Fuji X-T3, so using some of my favorite lenses doesn`t provide the most smoothest of footages (and going gimbal would be an overkill, and totally the opposite of my downsizing from full-frame to keep the "photo baggage" at least somewhat in check).
I do see that being addressed in the future, even X-T4 having IBIS now (but I don`t find it a worthy upgrade for IBIS alone, and I really don`t like the changed tilt to flippy screen), so waiting to see what the future brings, no hurry
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100mm f/3.5 C/Y Sonnar @ f/5.6, 1/800 sec.
100mm f/3.5 C/Y Sonnar @ f/5.6, 1/400 sec.
45mm f/2.8 C/Y Tessar @ f/8 1/640 sec.
45mm f/2.8 C/Y Tessar @ f/4 1/160 sec.
45mm f/2.8 C/Y Tessar @ f/8 1/800 sec.
45mm f/2.8 C/Y Tessar @ f/8 1/800 sec.
45mm f/2.8 C/Y Tessar @ f/8 1/160 sec.
For me, this is a time to appreciate details and get to know my photo equipment better (more details).
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Nice, what lenses are these?
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The colored stripes and how the water and glass bends the light is fascinating. I could stare at this for quite awhile. Very cool.Diffracted ...
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The 4th photo was taken at sunset and it really was "magic hour." The image was underexposed to get almost all the details except the edges of the leaves to drop out and go black.
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