Drone for stills - no portable phone involved?

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Have looked at a few ads for a drone and keep finding they need a portable telephone to work.

Am new to the idea of them but some aerial opportunities for still images are all I am interested in. A controller that shows the camera view without having to get portable telephone is what I need. All my digital now is RAW format and would prefer that for a drone. Final result will be prints.

Rural area - mainly farms and open land so nothing to interfere with the flying other than wind and weather. Would really love to be able to photograph some during blizzards but reality tells me it won't work. A blizzard is 35mph and higher winds, blowing and drifting snow for a minimum of 3 hours. I'll stick with ground based cameras for those. But lighter winds and snow or rain would be nice or dust blowing across dry ponds and sloughs - 5-15 mph or so, maybe?

Past experience with Aerial work is all commercial from piloted planes and helicopters - someone else flying and my using Hasselblad and 35mm still cameras. Even a few with older Military 9 inch film cameras. Now I don't fly any longer so the drones may be a way to work personal views without air sickness.

Recommendations?
 
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Perhaps you could consider the DJI Mavic 2 Pro with the Smart Controller option. In this way, you don’t need a smartphone and the Smart Controller is brighter than your phone can be. You turn on the Smart Controller and it pairs with your Mavic 2 Pro much faster than the use of a phone.

CK
 
Perhaps you could consider the DJI Mavic 2 Pro with the Smart Controller option. In this way, you don’t need a smartphone and the Smart Controller is brighter than your phone can be. You turn on the Smart Controller and it pairs with your Mavic 2 Pro much faster than the use of a phone.

CK
Agreed! The Mavic 2 Pro + Smart Controller seems to be the logical choice. I use the Smart Controller with my MA2 and it makes life much better, particularly in bright sunlight. The only issue is budget; the M2P + SC bundle costs over $2000 and the OP has not given us any idea of what he is prepared to spend, and he has not told us why he does not want to use a smart phone with a controller.

The Smart Controller alone costs $799, and refurbished Smart Controllers are available from DJI for $599. I bought a refurb SC to use with my MA2 and it was cash well spent.
 
Perhaps you could consider the DJI Mavic 2 Pro with the Smart Controller option. In this way, you don’t need a smartphone and the Smart Controller is brighter than your phone can be. You turn on the Smart Controller and it pairs with your Mavic 2 Pro much faster than the use of a phone.

CK
Agreed! The Mavic 2 Pro + Smart Controller seems to be the logical choice. I use the Smart Controller with my MA2 and it makes life much better, particularly in bright sunlight. The only issue is budget; the M2P + SC bundle costs over $2000 and the OP has not given us any idea of what he is prepared to spend, and he has not told us why he does not want to use a smart phone with a controller.
Interesting! However, few months ago DJI answered to my inquiry and indicated that the Smart Controller is not compatible with MA2, yet. Tech Support told me that they are working on this issue. So, could you please share your experience in paring the Smart Controller with MA2? I have a Smart Controller to be used with my M2P, but hesitate to try to pair it with MA2.

Thanks.

CK
 
Perhaps you could consider the DJI Mavic 2 Pro with the Smart Controller option. In this way, you don’t need a smartphone and the Smart Controller is brighter than your phone can be. You turn on the Smart Controller and it pairs with your Mavic 2 Pro much faster than the use of a phone.

CK
Agreed! The Mavic 2 Pro + Smart Controller seems to be the logical choice. I use the Smart Controller with my MA2 and it makes life much better, particularly in bright sunlight. The only issue is budget; the M2P + SC bundle costs over $2000 and the OP has not given us any idea of what he is prepared to spend, and he has not told us why he does not want to use a smart phone with a controller.
Interesting! However, few months ago DJI answered to my inquiry and indicated that the Smart Controller is not compatible with MA2, yet. Tech Support told me that they are working on this issue. So, could you please share your experience in paring the Smart Controller with MA2? I have a Smart Controller to be used with my M2P, but hesitate to try to pair it with MA2.

Thanks.

CK
The Smart Controller had a firmware update back on September 22 to V01.00.0820. This also installs the DJI Fly app. You will have to pair the MA2 when you get the pairing cue from the SC. This is done by pushing and holding the power button on the battery until you cleared the audible tone. The cue says to press the button on the bottom of the drone, but that got lost in translation.

I used the DJI assistant 2 for Mavic app which makes the firmware installation, or any reversal simple.

Unfortunately you will have to pair the M2P again as you cannot just switch drones. I have heard that some folks have had conflict issues with the M2P after the V. 0820 update and their solution was to revert to the earlier Firmware. I only have the MA2 so I have not experienced the conflict, neither have others who have the M2P, M2Z, and MA2. So I would go through the update, and if you have the conflict then revert to the older firmware.
 
Perhaps you could consider the DJI Mavic 2 Pro with the Smart Controller option. In this way, you don’t need a smartphone and the Smart Controller is brighter than your phone can be. You turn on the Smart Controller and it pairs with your Mavic 2 Pro much faster than the use of a phone.

CK
Agreed! The Mavic 2 Pro + Smart Controller seems to be the logical choice. I use the Smart Controller with my MA2 and it makes life much better, particularly in bright sunlight. The only issue is budget; the M2P + SC bundle costs over $2000 and the OP has not given us any idea of what he is prepared to spend, and he has not told us why he does not want to use a smart phone with a controller.
Interesting! However, few months ago DJI answered to my inquiry and indicated that the Smart Controller is not compatible with MA2, yet. Tech Support told me that they are working on this issue. So, could you please share your experience in paring the Smart Controller with MA2? I have a Smart Controller to be used with my M2P, but hesitate to try to pair it with MA2.

Thanks.

CK
The Smart Controller had a firmware update back on September 22 to V01.00.0820. This also installs the DJI Fly app. You will have to pair the MA2 when you get the pairing cue from the SC. This is done by pushing and holding the power button on the battery until you cleared the audible tone. The cue says to press the button on the bottom of the drone, but that got lost in translation.

I used the DJI assistant 2 for Mavic app which makes the firmware installation, or any reversal simple.

Unfortunately you will have to pair the M2P again as you cannot just switch drones. I have heard that some folks have had conflict issues with the M2P after the V. 0820 update and their solution was to revert to the earlier Firmware. I only have the MA2 so I have not experienced the conflict, neither have others who have the M2P, M2Z, and MA2. So I would go through the update, and if you have the conflict then revert to the older firmware.
A big thumbs up! Thanks so much. Going to get a refurbished one soon perhaps for Xmas. :-)

CK
 
Perhaps you could consider the DJI Mavic 2 Pro with the Smart Controller option. In this way, you don’t need a smartphone and the Smart Controller is brighter than your phone can be. You turn on the Smart Controller and it pairs with your Mavic 2 Pro much faster than the use of a phone.

CK
Agreed! The Mavic 2 Pro + Smart Controller seems to be the logical choice. I use the Smart Controller with my MA2 and it makes life much better, particularly in bright sunlight. The only issue is budget; the M2P + SC bundle costs over $2000 and the OP has not given us any idea of what he is prepared to spend, and he has not told us why he does not want to use a smart phone with a controller.
Interesting! However, few months ago DJI answered to my inquiry and indicated that the Smart Controller is not compatible with MA2, yet. Tech Support told me that they are working on this issue. So, could you please share your experience in paring the Smart Controller with MA2? I have a Smart Controller to be used with my M2P, but hesitate to try to pair it with MA2.

Thanks.

CK
The Smart Controller had a firmware update back on September 22 to V01.00.0820. This also installs the DJI Fly app. You will have to pair the MA2 when you get the pairing cue from the SC. This is done by pushing and holding the power button on the battery until you cleared the audible tone. The cue says to press the button on the bottom of the drone, but that got lost in translation.

I used the DJI assistant 2 for Mavic app which makes the firmware installation, or any reversal simple.

Unfortunately you will have to pair the M2P again as you cannot just switch drones. I have heard that some folks have had conflict issues with the M2P after the V. 0820 update and their solution was to revert to the earlier Firmware. I only have the MA2 so I have not experienced the conflict, neither have others who have the M2P, M2Z, and MA2. So I would go through the update, and if you have the conflict then revert to the older firmware.
A big thumbs up! Thanks so much. Going to get a refurbished one soon perhaps for Xmas. :-)

CK
BTW: Here is the experience of one individual, "FlytPath" Aldryn Estacio who went through a few glitches on his way to installing the SC firmware update.

DJI Smart Controller + Mavic Air 2
 
The Smart Controller alone costs $799, and refurbished Smart Controllers are available from DJI for $599. I bought a refurb SC to use with my MA2 and it was cash well spent.
I believe the smart controller has a mini HDMI port. I'm wondering if that would allow goggle flight with the MA2.
 
The Smart Controller alone costs $799, and refurbished Smart Controllers are available from DJI for $599. I bought a refurb SC to use with my MA2 and it was cash well spent.
I believe the smart controller has a mini HDMI port. I'm wondering if that would allow goggle flight with the MA2.
I haven't heard of that being tried yet, but one must believe that particular use either is possible, or will be possible with some future firmware update.

It should also allow for an outboard display and recording.
 
The Smart Controller alone costs $799, and refurbished Smart Controllers are available from DJI for $599. I bought a refurb SC to use with my MA2 and it was cash well spent.
I believe the smart controller has a mini HDMI port. I'm wondering if that would allow goggle flight with the MA2.
I haven't heard of that being tried yet, but one must believe that particular use either is possible, or will be possible with some future firmware update.

It should also allow for an outboard display and recording.
One lives and learns I imagine. The MA2 is quite a device for the money but after using it for a while I see that there are a few things I would like to have/do and am limited. The software capabilities of this drone are quite impressive and I can see DJI adding goggle capabilities except for the HDMI connection.

How are you doing with stills? I ask that as I see you are a Fuji user, as am I. The images I'm getting are acceptable from a novelty point of view but nothing I'd print or frame.
 
The Smart Controller alone costs $799, and refurbished Smart Controllers are available from DJI for $599. I bought a refurb SC to use with my MA2 and it was cash well spent.
I believe the smart controller has a mini HDMI port. I'm wondering if that would allow goggle flight with the MA2.
I haven't heard of that being tried yet, but one must believe that particular use either is possible, or will be possible with some future firmware update.

It should also allow for an outboard display and recording.
One lives and learns I imagine. The MA2 is quite a device for the money but after using it for a while I see that there are a few things I would like to have/do and am limited. The software capabilities of this drone are quite impressive and I can see DJI adding goggle capabilities except for the HDMI connection.

How are you doing with stills? I ask that as I see you are a Fuji user, as am I. The images I'm getting are acceptable from a novelty point of view but nothing I'd print or frame.
When you ask of stills I am assuming that you are referring to the MA2 stills not any of the Fujis. Needless to say, the resolution quality of the MA2 images do not come close to what I am able to produce with either my X-T3 or X-E3 and my most used lenses such as the XF16-55/2.8, the XF16/1.4, the 14/2.8, or the 35/1.4. However, what I have captured with the MA2 has always surprised me given the small sensor, and lens restrictions. I have been quite impressed with the MA2 panoramas.

Here are a few examples of MA2 stills & panoramas:

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180º pano
180º pano

...and since video in flight is the fun thing, here is one of my unpolished efforts:

Flight along San Antonio River
 

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