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An Update Z-Mount Lens Roadmap Through 2022

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Nikon Japan's web site is showing an updated lens roadmap:

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As far as I can tell, only three lenses are new: 85mm, 400mm, and 600mm, all S line. While no maximum aperture is specified, I assume those are 85mm/f1.2, 400mm/f2.8 and 600mm/f4, and they are coming in 2022. In other words, a sports oriented Z body as a successor to the D6 will come in 2022, along with the 400mm/f2.8 and 600mm/f4, probably in time for the 2022 football/soccer World Cup or perhaps even for the Beijing Winter Olympics.

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The Z System is nearly all grown up - well by 2022.

I don't believe I'm the only wildlife photographer who is quietly hoping the 2 telephotos are a 400 f4E PF SR FL and 600 f5.6E PF SR FL. They will complement the F-Nikkors very well.

It is very clear just from today's spec's Nikon now has two industry leading MILCs which will do justice to a Z Telephoto. But a caveat- We will know the key details on Custom Menu options and Focus assist (eg focus-peaking) etc from the e-Manuals. These tables etc should confirm how much of the "To Do" list has been fixed by Nikon. This will clinch action shooting
 
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If Z7II can replace D850, even at FW 3.0, it will be worthwhile to obtain. I probably will sit tight and enjoy my Z7 for now.
 
It was mentioned in an interview the Z9 (whatever the name is) will be tested next year during Olympics. Just curious who will provide the sensor for that.
 
I wonder how much the 600mm S will cost. I got a 600mm FL in pretty decent condition yesterday so hoping I do not feel too bad about buying this now when the S version is coming out soon-ish.
 
richiemccaw said:
I wonder how much the 600mm S will cost. I got a 600mm FL in pretty decent condition yesterday so hoping I do not feel too bad about buying this now when the S version is coming out soon-ish.
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I expect the prices will be directly comparable to the most recent F-mount versions. Look at all the professional lenses released so far - price is directly comparable. Yes, a very different price bracket, but even those who can afford the lenses won't approve of surprises like very different prices.

Unless they're PF versions, then all bets are off on prices. 1 stop slower but very large PF elements means price = ?
 
It'll be Sony, no doubt. Nikon isn't going with anyone else and Sony produces the best sensors.
 
lattesweden said:
EricTheAstroJunkie said:
It'll be Sony, no doubt. Nikon isn't going with anyone else and Sony produces the best sensors.
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Nikon has lately sourced sensors from TowerJazz as well.
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I've only seen some quickly debunked rumors about that and never any actual evidence of it. They did use a Toshiba sensor in the distant past, but recently every new Nikon camera has had a Sony sensor in it as best as anyone can tell.
 
kenw said:
lattesweden said:
EricTheAstroJunkie said:
It'll be Sony, no doubt. Nikon isn't going with anyone else and Sony produces the best sensors.
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Nikon has lately sourced sensors from TowerJazz as well.
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I've only seen some quickly debunked rumors about that and never any actual evidence of it. They did use a Toshiba sensor in the distant past, but recently every new Nikon camera has had a Sony sensor in it as best as anyone can tell.
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lattesweden said:
kenw said:
lattesweden said:
EricTheAstroJunkie said:
It'll be Sony, no doubt. Nikon isn't going with anyone else and Sony produces the best sensors.
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Nikon has lately sourced sensors from TowerJazz as well.
Click to expand...
I've only seen some quickly debunked rumors about that and never any actual evidence of it. They did use a Toshiba sensor in the distant past, but recently every new Nikon camera has had a Sony sensor in it as best as anyone can tell.
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https://petapixel.com/2020/06/05/to...-is-using-their-sensors-in-the-z50-and-d7500/
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Yes, that’s the debunked rumor. The D7500 uses the Sony IMX321 sensor for sure. As best as we can tell Tower is providing other chips or IP in some Nikon cameras but have nothing to do with manufacturing the sensor. As usual sites like petapixel and others have drawn a wrong conclusion trying to read between the lines, they get their advertising clicks and never correct their error.
 
kenw said:
lattesweden said:
EricTheAstroJunkie said:
It'll be Sony, no doubt. Nikon isn't going with anyone else and Sony produces the best sensors.
Click to expand...
Nikon has lately sourced sensors from TowerJazz as well.
Click to expand...
I've only seen some quickly debunked rumors about that and never any actual evidence of it. They did use a Toshiba sensor in the distant past, but recently every new Nikon camera has had a Sony sensor in it as best as anyone can tell.
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If I remember correctly, it was the D7100 that used a Toshiba sensor back in 2013. However, shortly after that, Toshiba sold their sensor business to Sony, such that it is all Sony now, at least the manufacturing part.
 
kenw said:
lattesweden said:
kenw said:
lattesweden said:
EricTheAstroJunkie said:
It'll be Sony, no doubt. Nikon isn't going with anyone else and Sony produces the best sensors.
Click to expand...
Nikon has lately sourced sensors from TowerJazz as well.
Click to expand...
I've only seen some quickly debunked rumors about that and never any actual evidence of it. They did use a Toshiba sensor in the distant past, but recently every new Nikon camera has had a Sony sensor in it as best as anyone can tell.
Click to expand...
https://petapixel.com/2020/06/05/to...-is-using-their-sensors-in-the-z50-and-d7500/
Click to expand...
Yes, that’s the debunked rumor. The D7500 uses the Sony IMX321 sensor for sure. As best as we can tell Tower is providing other chips or IP in some Nikon cameras but have nothing to do with manufacturing the sensor. As usual sites like petapixel and others have drawn a wrong conclusion trying to read between the lines, they get their advertising clicks and never correct their error.
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Aha, thanks! I had missed the followup on that.
 
So, by the end of 2022 Nikon will have a whopping three Z-DX lenses.
 
justmeMN said:
So, by the end of 2022 Nikon will have a whopping three Z-DX lenses.
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I can’t say I’m surprised. Nikon doesn’t see DX as anything more than a “consumer” system. They have decided that the money is in FX, and who can blame them? It’s the way things are going.

I will continue to use my Z50 very happily, with the excellent 16-50 kit lens and a number of F mount lenses with the FTZ. I use the 300mm PF with or without the 1.4x TC for wildlife, and the 70-300 AF-P DX for hiking. If I want ultra wide I’ll use my 10-20mm AF-P or my Tokina 11-16.

I would like a Z DX ultra wide zoom, and a fast(ish) Z DX prime around 20-24mm, but I’m not holding my breath.

I’d love Nikon to take DX seriously, but I think we have to face the fact that it’s not going to happen.
 
chambeshi said:
The Z System is nearly all grown up - well by 2022.

I don't believe I'm the only wildlife photographer who is quietly hoping the 2 telephotos are a 400 f4E PF SR FL and 600 f5.6E PF SR FL. They will complement the F-Nikkors very well.
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I am new to Nikon (besides the N1 V2 & V3) but my guess is that the two telephotos are going to be a 1/2 or full stop slower with the extra focal length - I agree with you - it would be great for them to stay f4 and f5.6. I don't own the current PFs but am really interested in them - but might wait to hear what is going on with these lenses.

The big question in my mind is going to be if these lenses are less than $4,000. All the F prime lenses over 300mm are at least double that, except the 500PF. As S-Line lenses I'm scared they're going to be well over that price.
 
They're taking too long with the lenses, as in Where is the 40mm?? All the Primes are large and heavy and they're getting larger.

Where are the compact, lightweight primes? When are those coming?
 
tokyowalker said:
Bye bye DSLR.
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Not quite. Nikon still needs to refine their AF to at least be competitive compared to the other two brands (and existing DSLRs) in terms of AF speed for sports photographers... then it might be bye-bye DSLR, but not until then.
 
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