Sony RX100 Mark Vll JPEGs look flat! Help with settings for best IQ!

Panone · Sep 27, 2020

Hi all!

I have just recently bought the Sony RX100 Mark 7 camera. Took a few shots with the intelligent auto mode (iA) and the pictures came out flat with no saturation, contrast.

I know you’ve to shoot in RAW for getting the best IQ. But the pictures with the iA mode left a lot to be desired. And I like using JPEGs more than RAW.

Can any of you who have owned the camera for a period of time help me get the best IQ out of the camera for JPEG? I would really appreciate if you can share the best setting in M7 for getting quality JPEGs. Thanks in advance!

Panone · Sep 29, 2020

Those are great in-depth details! Thanks Brandon!

TheBestCameraIsTheOneYouActuallyShoot · Sep 29, 2020

For RX10m4 (and rx100m1) JPEGs I like the setting Standard for the color profile and then I pump the contrast +1 or +2 and the saturation +1. During the day I choose the white balances which match and sometimes push auto WB settings into a warmer setting.

I've also tried the more heavy picture settings like Deep and then decreasing its contrast, etc.But, keep going back to Standard with the modifications above.

sassan_n · Oct 4, 2020

I have noticed this issue as well. I switched from rx100 mk iv to rx100 mk vi and was surprized how flat and boring the jpeg files look in auto mode compared to earlier version. My wife still has the first rx100 and shoots always in auto mode and the jpegs are very pleasing. I do not understand why Sony has changed this. With the earlier versions the good think about the camera was that you really got nice results in auto without needing to shoot in raw or make adjustments. If I want to make adjustments and shoot in raw, I have a bigger camera which I will use. But the small Sony was always a camera which you take very nice pictures with without needing to think much about it. But not with the newer versions unfortunately. The RX100 jpeg engine could cope with situations like sunlight and harsh shadows very nicely with automatically lifting shadows etc. But all these seem to have gone with the newer version unfortunately.

Panone · Oct 4, 2020

Exactly my thoughts. Especially when you share the JPEG’s to your smartphone, laptop or other high resolution monitors, the lack of punchiness is very evident there. I am still playing around with the creative styles and haven’t zeroed in on one particular setting yet. Great advices on this thread for which I am very grateful of.

tbcass · Oct 4, 2020

sassan_n said:
I have noticed this issue as well. I switched from rx100 mk iv to rx100 mk vi and was surprised how flat and boring the jpeg files look in auto mode compared to earlier version. My wife still has the first rx100 and shoots always in auto mode and the jpegs are very pleasing. I do not understand why Sony has changed this. With the earlier versions the good think about the camera was that you really got nice results in auto without needing to shoot in raw or make adjustments. If I want to make adjustments and shoot in raw, I have a bigger camera which I will use. But the small Sony was always a camera which you take very nice pictures with without needing to think much about it. But not with the newer versions unfortunately. The RX100 jpeg engine could cope with situations like sunlight and harsh shadows very nicely with automatically lifting shadows etc. But all these seem to have gone with the newer version unfortunately.

Since many if not most serious photographers like to start with more neutral output maybe Sony decided to tone down the default output a bit. I know there are several on DPR who claim they like the new colors better. As I have stated numerous times. It's easy to adjust the default JPEG output. You only have to do it once and you are set. I don't own an RX100vi but on my RX10iv it's under camera1,10/14 Color/WB/Img.Processing1 and 2.

elliottnewcomb · Oct 4, 2020

Panone said:
Especially when you share the JPEG’s to your smartphone, laptop or other high resolution monitors

I used to transfer, not in a long time. I found that the camera was not sending the full resolution image, you need to tell it somewhere what image size to send as a default, it's worth double checking.

sassan_n · Oct 4, 2020

tbcass said:
sassan_n said:

I have noticed this issue as well. I switched from rx100 mk iv to rx100 mk vi and was surprised how flat and boring the jpeg files look in auto mode compared to earlier version. My wife still has the first rx100 and shoots always in auto mode and the jpegs are very pleasing. I do not understand why Sony has changed this. With the earlier versions the good think about the camera was that you really got nice results in auto without needing to shoot in raw or make adjustments. If I want to make adjustments and shoot in raw, I have a bigger camera which I will use. But the small Sony was always a camera which you take very nice pictures with without needing to think much about it. But not with the newer versions unfortunately. The RX100 jpeg engine could cope with situations like sunlight and harsh shadows very nicely with automatically lifting shadows etc. But all these seem to have gone with the newer version unfortunately.

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Since many if not most serious photographers like to start with more neutral output maybe Sony decided to tone down the default output a bit. I know there are several on DPR who claim they like the new colors better. As I have stated numerous times. It's easy to adjust the default JPEG output. You only have to do it once and you are set. I don't own an RX100vi but on my RX10iv it's under camera1,10/14 Color/WB/Img.Processing1 and 2.

Thanks for the suggestion. I will try these settings. Hopefully this will improve the output.

Here is an example from last year. I took these pictures minutes aport, the first one with the RX100 M6, and the second with the Nikon Z6. I know, totally different cameras but at these light conditions I would expect that the output should be comparable.

tbcass · Oct 4, 2020

When you change the settings don't go overboard on the contrast because it can result in blown highlights if you use too much. Personally I like to start out with neutral settings and tweek output with FastStone.

tbcass · Oct 4, 2020

I think both look great with little difference but if I had to choose I like the Sony sample better because the other seems a bit soft.

Steve Bingham · Oct 6, 2020

tbcass said:
Panone said:

Thanks mate! One more thing which I noted was, whilst zooming in and out in movie mode the zoom motor makes noise which gets captured in the video. I turned off audio signals in the settings. Even after doing that the zoom motor sound gets captured in the video whilst zooming in and out. Have you noticed this too? Is there a way to make the lens zoom in and out without the noise? I have the audit recording at level 26 and have the wind cut off.

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The only way to avoid that is to use an external mic.

. . . and the VII has a plug for an external mic. I use a Rode shotgun.

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Steve Bingham · Oct 6, 2020

. . or use the Velvia setting. Saturated and a little more contrast. (setup).

Panone · Oct 6, 2020

Thanks Steve! I am thinking of getting the Saramonic SR-XM1 due to its smaller size. I just hope it doesn’t pickup the zoom motor noise as it sits close to the lens. Perhaps anyone that uses the Saramonic SR-XM1 on their RX100 can share their views?

tbcass · Oct 7, 2020

Steve Bingham said:
. . or use the Velvia setting. Saturated and a little more contrast. (setup).

Every problem has numerous solutions!

sludge21017 · Oct 7, 2020

Try VIVID, instead of CLEAR/NONE.

You can also juice the settings further in camera and +/- them.

Produces great fall colors.

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