R6 + Canon 50 1.4 - Is anyone using it?

The Ambassador said:

Hello everyone!
Before investing in some serious lens, I'd like to test the Canon 50 1.4 on my R6.
Is any of you using this combo? Except for the softness of the lens, are the focus problem totally resolved due to the mirrorless system?
Thank you!

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The camera will not help with the slow focusing. It's just how the lens is and will be regardless of what camera you put it on.

iazybandit said:

The Ambassador said:

Hello everyone!
Before investing in some serious lens, I'd like to test the Canon 50 1.4 on my R6.
Is any of you using this combo? Except for the softness of the lens, are the focus problem totally resolved due to the mirrorless system?
Thank you!

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The camera will not help with the slow focusing. It's just how the lens is and will be regardless of what camera you put it on.

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I've probably wrote it wrong. I was referring to accuracy rather than the speed itself.

The Ambassador said:

iazybandit said:

The Ambassador said:

Hello everyone!
Before investing in some serious lens, I'd like to test the Canon 50 1.4 on my R6.
Is any of you using this combo? Except for the softness of the lens, are the focus problem totally resolved due to the mirrorless system?
Thank you!

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The camera will not help with the slow focusing. It's just how the lens is and will be regardless of what camera you put it on.

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I've probably wrote it wrong. I was referring to accuracy rather than the speed itself.

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The same would apply. Whatever camera you put it on, it would act the same.

The Ambassador said:

Hello everyone!
Before investing in some serious lens, I'd like to test the Canon 50 1.4 on my R6.
Is any of you using this combo? Except for the softness of the lens, are the focus problem totally resolved due to the mirrorless system?
Thank you!

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I only have the EOS R at present and I have had the EF50mmf1.4 since 1971. I would say the focus is more accurate on the EOS R than on the EOS 5D Mk IV or the 7DII. I get more keepers when shooting at f1.4 with the EOS R. I have the EF 50F1.0L and I that is out production now but it works better for focus on the EOS R IMO and at f1.0 the focus is more critical. Both lens are not my sharpest when shooting wide open but the bokeh is good. I have Sigma 50mmf1.4 ART and that is my sharp 50mm lens but not everyone I photograph prefers the sharpest image of their face. The EOS R is more accurate in focus but the DSLRs work well but not quite as consistently well as the EOS R.

Everything I have heard about the R6 suggests it is even more accurate with regard to eye tracking and focus using the AF-II autofocus system.

The EOS R is as good or better than the 5DIV IMO but the improvement of the R6 is probably noticeably better yet.

Thank you very much for the detailed explanation

The Ambassador said:

Thank you very much for the detailed explanation

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The improvement in focus of the EOS R is real but subtle and not perfect but more keepers are the outcome in focus critical applications at large aperature settings where the focus is more critical. I like for macro photography but there the is the alternative of merging groups of of bracketed shots too. However, this is time consuming and of little benefit if only one focus plane is necessary.

I have never individually calibrated any of my lenses and with the EOS R this mirror error compensation is no longer necessary to correct for mirror erros.

I have fourteen L lenses and several other EF lenses in EF mount by Canon and third parties and i am sure some focus a little close or little far when shooting wide open. I have seen any of these lenses that do not focus as well on the EOS R and it is my impression they all produce more keepers on the EOS R. The residual focus issues remaining in the EOS R may be the lack of eye focus rather than face focus the R5/R6 have many more focus points and well as better software.

The errors are not so much better to make me want to get rid of the EOS 5DIV with it's optical viewfinder. I may get rid of the 70D and 7D. I shoot many different scenarios and I still even like the 70D for some of those scenarios using Live View The R5 may change some of that for me.

These differences in focus in the EOS R are what made me big believed in mirror camera alternative and coaxed me into buying the RF 15-35mm & 24-70mm lenses but so far I have no plans to replace any of my EF f1.4 or f1.2 primes critical focus primes or macro lenses or telephoto lenses. I bought the EOS R to hands on experience and was surprised by the improved keeper rates with all lenses and I was impressed with the better ability to judge in the EVF of the EOS R the exposure before you shoot a trial shot. In many cases I do shoot as many trial shots as with the DSLRs. I would never have bought the R5 in preorder like I did had it not been to the results I got with the EOS R. The user interface of the EOS R and R5 similar and pretty close to the 5DIV. This user interface of the new models is quite different than the 7DII with no swing out touch rear LCD screen and different button actions and controls. That the major reason I have to think about getting rid of the 7DII and 70D.

RDM5546 said:

The Ambassador said:

Hello everyone!
Before investing in some serious lens, I'd like to test the Canon 50 1.4 on my R6.
Is any of you using this combo? Except for the softness of the lens, are the focus problem totally resolved due to the mirrorless system?
Thank you!

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I only have the EOS R at present and I have had the EF50mmf1.4 since 1971.

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Amazing feat given it was launched in 1993!

The Ambassador said:

Hello everyone!
Before investing in some serious lens, I'd like to test the Canon 50 1.4 on my R6.
Is any of you using this combo? Except for the softness of the lens, are the focus problem totally resolved due to the mirrorless system?
Thank you!

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I am using it with the RP. Focus is accurate. Speed I won't comment as RP and R6 most likely are in totally different league. All I can say is I didn't find it to be a slouch

Maybe I will post some pictures when I am able to get at it.

tkbslc said:

RDM5546 said:

The Ambassador said:

Hello everyone!
Before investing in some serious lens, I'd like to test the Canon 50 1.4 on my R6.
Is any of you using this combo? Except for the softness of the lens, are the focus problem totally resolved due to the mirrorless system?
Thank you!

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I only have the EOS R at present and I have had the EF50mmf1.4 since 1971.

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Amazing feat given it was launched in 1993!

https://global.canon/en/c-museum/product/ef318.html

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I did not have a time machine to do that. However, Yes, I am 73 years old and get my dates crossed some times. I wish it were just a typo.

I was shooting Nikon until 1993 or so. I switched because of the autofocus. and it must have been 1993 when I switched. I still have the Nikon F2S and a couple of lenses for it. Than Nikon 50mm was a little soft at f1.4 just like the EF 50mmf1.4 but the Ultrasonic autofocus was the big deal behing my change to new mount. I stayed with EF mount ever since until last year I went crazy buying some new RF mount lenses.

The 50mmf1.4 was the first lens I bought for the new Canon 35mm film eyetracking camera body with autofocus.

When I gave my Rebel T7 (with kit lens) to my 13 year old daughter a couple of months ago and bought an RP, I kept my 50mm 1.4. I have used it and it focuses accurately and, well, quick enough. Not my choice for sports, but it doesn't hunt. The colors and images are quite good, although soft everywhere but the narrow focus plain that you get at 1.4. Here is one I shot at f/5.0, ISO 100 the other day. I am satisfied with the photo.

I use my primes quite a bit. The 40mm 2.8 pancake the most of all since it is a perfect lens to walk around with on an RP. The 1.4 I keep because it is the best low light lens I have, and the 85mm 1.8 is such a great portrait lens, I keep it for just that: portraits. I have the EF 24-105 f4.0L but find I don't use it as much as the much lighter (and super sharp) RF 24-105 f4.0 - 7.1 STM. Distortion with any of them is easily corrected in Lightroom.

Lovely!
I have to admit it may not be the sharpest lens but I actually like the color rendition!

The Ambassador said:

Lovely!
I have to admit it may not be the sharpest lens but I actually like the color rendition!

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Not every image is best when ultrasharp. The EF50mmf 1.4 produces pleasant pictures. The Sigma 50mmf1.4 produces much sharper image but in some cases may reveal too much and be harsher.

iazybandit said:

The Ambassador said:

iazybandit said:

The Ambassador said:

Hello everyone!
Before investing in some serious lens, I'd like to test the Canon 50 1.4 on my R6.
Is any of you using this combo? Except for the softness of the lens, are the focus problem totally resolved due to the mirrorless system?
Thank you!

Click to expand...

The camera will not help with the slow focusing. It's just how the lens is and will be regardless of what camera you put it on.

Click to expand...

I've probably wrote it wrong. I was referring to accuracy rather than the speed itself.

Click to expand...

The same would apply. Whatever camera you put it on, it would act the same.

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No, that's not true. Many lenses focus more accurately on mirrorless systems than on DSLR. It's a totally different focus system. All my EF lenses focus more accurately on my M6II than on my 7DII.