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Sony running 5 years behind Canon tech..!!damn

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Jogger said:
Are you just trying to get attention. We've all seem your Canon
eletist posts over the past week. Enough with it!
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dISEr said:
They'd better make a red derivative
(magnetta/orange/carmine/purple/vermillion?) instead of a green
one. It's obvious that greens are fine on all the images made by
F717, but reds are not, sometimes.
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The perception of luminance or detail is carried primarily in the wavelengths close to green. This is why the Bayer pattern is half green and why Sony should be reluctant to sacrifice detectors in this range.

I'm aware of arguments that existing filters fail to distinguish between some very bright reds, but I don't think this is what you're talking about here. The Sony red issues may have more to do with Sony's software than anything else. It seems that other cameras that use Sony sensors don't have the same issues.

Also, measuring wavelengths that induce a negative red response, such as those in the "emerald" area might improve red accuracy since existing RGB sensors are failing to detect color combinations that suppress our perception of red.

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joan gusafsen said:
... before they know if its good.
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This is a fairly partisan comment. Every manufacturer has makes mistakes and QC slip ups.
Joan Gustafsen said:
They made the D60. Then they made the D10. Then they discovered
that their brand new camera wasn't able to focus under akwardly
easy lightning situations.
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The D60 to 10D upgrade was a fantastic move by Canon. Releasing new and improved products on a rapid timetable is something that all successful manufacturers operating in competitive markets must do.

With the 10d, the problem appears to be/have been poor QC.
Joan Gustafsen said:
Test it, make sure it stands up to what
you are stating that the product is supposed to do, and then put it
out into the market. Wtf is the G5 about. The G4 is better. It
seems almost by accident that it is so.
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Canon let their sensor upgrades get ahead of their lens upgrades, so they rolled out some new products without improving their lenses and ran into problems with purple fringing.

There's no denying that these were bad mistakes by Canon and that Canon will suffer as a result.
Joan Gustafsen said:
The sony lineup of cameras are mostly good. The king of the line
717 has been and it seems, will keep beeing one of the
top-of-the-line cameras with a long zoom and good resolution. I
doubt that the upgrade, 828, will be a poorer camera, as the G5 was
to the G4.
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Sony has had their share of QC issues, questionable upgrades, etc.. The 707 had blue flash syndrome and then dark left side syndrome. The S85 was viewed by many as a downgrade or questionable upgrade from the S75.

Every manufacturer has its ups and downs, so you shouldn't let brand loyalty cloud your perceptions. Given that essentially every manufacturer has had problems, it's wise to adopt to healthy scepticism about new products until Phil puts them through their paces and possibly even until the early adopters have ironed out the kinks.

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Sony makes all of Canon’s sensors and Canon is telling us all a huge lie about how they developed these silly CMOS sensor thingies that they are using in D rebs, 10D’s and 1Ds’!!!

Greg
 
Heheheh... Greg, I'm sure he isn't referring to the Canon dSLR cameras. :-)
GregL281 said:
Sony makes all of Canon’s sensors and Canon is telling us all
a huge lie about how they developed these silly CMOS sensor
thingies that they are using in D rebs, 10D’s and 1Ds’!!!
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joan gusafsen said:
... before they know if its good.

They made the D60. Then they made the D10. Then they discovered
that their brand new camera wasn't able to focus under akwardly
easy lightning situations. Test it, make sure it stands up to what
you are stating that the product is supposed to do, and then put it
out into the market. Wtf is the G5 about. The G4 is better. It
seems almost by accident that it is so.

The sony lineup of cameras are mostly good. The king of the line
717 has been and it seems, will keep beeing one of the
top-of-the-line cameras with a long zoom and good resolution. I
doubt that the upgrade, 828, will be a poorer camera, as the G5 was
to the G4.

As far as ccd colour is concerned, i couldn't care less. If you use
technology without knowing the full effects of it, it probably
won't do you any good at all. Know the technology you are using,
-before using it.

If anybody knows anything about CCD colours, it isn't you, it isn't
anyone ealse on this forum, -it's probably the guys at Sony, who
are putting together somthing like 80% of all the CCDs produced
every year.

johanG.
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The G4, Captian Sassypants, is the G5. G and 4 together apparently means "DIE" in Chinese or something, so they skipped it.

Didnt seem to stop Apple and their G4...Stupid Canon...
 
Actually the guy was talking about the G3 when he was saying that the G4 is actually better than the G5. He really seems to know what he is talking about doesn’t he! I guess you didn't read his original post very closely did you?

Canon sure seems to be raking in the $ so I don’t know how stupid that really makes them.

Greg
 
G3 G4 whatever, the model before the G5 at least.

If an imaging company is more about rolling the largest amount of dollars, then i prefer the poor company who is thinking about creating good images.

A major part of the digital camera market are people who would like to photograph their girlfriends, pets and things they see on holiday. Some of theese people also have massive amounts of money. It also seems that some who are very bored want's to spend high dollars and time on taking the kitty-pictures to store on their fancy computer.

I still belive other companies have the edge on Canon in most prosumer areas when it comes to making quality products for IMAGING.

Canons products belong in stuff magazine or some other "gear" leaflet with nice girls and macs.

johanG.
GregL281 said:
Actually the guy was talking about the G3 when he was saying that
the G4 is actually better than the G5. He really seems to know
what he is talking about doesn’t he! I guess you didn't read
his original post very closely did you?

Canon sure seems to be raking in the $ so I don’t know how
stupid that really makes them.

Greg
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You are right, Canon products are just high tech gizmos that can’t hold a candle to the state of the art Sony imaging products. Sony isn’t about making money, they just want to put the creative power of their superior products in the hands of the masses while making minimum profit. I guess I should just sell all my Canon, Nikon and Olympus equipment and buy the 717 because none of these companies know anything about imaging. Like the other guy said STUPID CANON and stupid me for buying Canon products. I guess I should run out and tell all the pro photographers who are not using Sony how stupid they are also LOL. Well if nothing else your post was good for giving me a very hearty laugh.

FYI, when companies aren’t able to turn a profit they don’t stay in business for very long. You also might ask yourself why was it that Sony came out with the oh so superior memory stick technology since they don’t care about squeezing their customers for every penny they can get.

Greg
 
Why does it even matter, if it makes the camera BETTER?? Who cares what Canon was doing back when??

If I want a Canon, I'll buy a Canon, but I want a F828. What canon did 5 years ago is of no consequence. This looks like a classic case of baiting.
Shay Stephens said:
SJN2003 said:
Shay Stephens said:
That's like saying New Coke was the same as Classic Coke because
all they did was change the flavor. The "Emerald" color of the
RGBE sensor is new. Unless you knaow of another camera that uses
RGBE.

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