Z DX Rear Lens Cap?

msu79gt82 said:

dgd911 said:

When I bought a z50 kit several months ago I remember the initial excitement was tinged with a feeling of disappointment because of missing lens caps, hoods and even those cloth excuses for lens cases. All to save Nikon a few cents.

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I forgot about the infamous CL-C1 Lens "pouch" that I didn't receive. I even started a Thread about those when I bought into the Z System.

CL-C1 Pouches: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/62522982

Nikon wants $25 for them: https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/lens-case/cl-c1-lens-case.html

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I'd be very happy with a $25 reduction in the price of the lens and leave out that luxurious pouch. Don't hold your breath waiting on that to happen. ;-)

I only opened mine last week when I decided to sell the lens. I was amazed to see what it was. Beyond keeping dust off the lens, what does it do? Now, you show me that it's available for $25. I wish I had a bucket full of them I could sell at that price.

You can buy the black caps for a few bucks. Kits come with the cheap press on white caps.

msu79gt82 said:

I just recently received the Z50 2-lens kit (bought from Adorama). Both lenses (the DX 16-50 and the DX 50-250) came with plain white unmarked end caps. Nikon USA Website indicates that the lens are supplied with the usual LF-N1 caps.

Anyone else get the cheap white snap-ons in lieu of the nicer LF-1N? Or was I just "lucky"

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I bought the DX 50mm-250mm lens, new, separately from Amazon, and when I received it the lens had a third party black (non Nikon) cap on it, which I found weird. I contacted Nikon an they said the lens should have come with the LF-N1 cap, so although the lens looked new and unused, I ended up returning it to Amazon and bought the lens at a local camera shop. Since Nikon does not seal its boxes, someone somewhere clearly swapped out the origina lens cap and replaced it with a non Nikon cap.

Paulamsmith said:

Sorry I was wrong. I bought my z50 as a “kit” but the 50-250 lens was separate and had the black cap. The 16-50 had the white plastic cap. When switching lenses I just use the black cap so had forgotten about the white cap

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That’s exactly how my kit was supplied in the UK. The 16-50 had the white push on cap and was in the same box as the body. The 50-250 was in its own dedicated box and had the proper black cap.

Didnt give it much thought and I always have a couple of spares kicking about anyhow.

24Peter said:

Curious what these "white caps" look like... never seen 'em. Anyone post a pic? Are they not real lens caps?

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You can see them in this picture taken when I was unboxing my Adorama Z50 kit.

JWassall said:

You can buy the black caps for a few bucks. Kits come with the cheap press on white caps.

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Not according to the Nikon website! I'm not sure about the legality of advertising and publicly stating what's in the box and then packing something different!

Nikon Z50 Two Lens Kit link (click What’s Included): https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/mirrorless-cameras/1632/z-50.html

msu79gt82 said:

JWassall said:

You can buy the black caps for a few bucks. Kits come with the cheap press on white caps.

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Not according to the Nikon website! I'm not sure about the legality of advertising and publicly stating what's in the box and then packing something different!

Nikon Z50 Two Lens Kit link (click What’s Included): https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/mirrorless-cameras/1632/z-50.html

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I get you want the black caps, but are you really talking about legal nonsense over a few dollar retail.....and probably a few cents to Nikon.......lens caps? OK lets talk about legality. Just about every manufacturer, retailer, etc, will have, somewhere, a legal policy with language like this (which was taken from Nikons site after a few second search and I'm sure there's more that cover it)......

nor is Nikon responsible for any technical, editorial and/or typographical errors.

So my suggestion, FWIW, it to reach out to Nikon and appeal to them and maybe you'll get lucky. But if you start talking about the legality of such things to them like you did here, you'll probably be buying the coveted black caps.

Look, I agree with you about their cheap white caps. But many manufacturers do this and have been for many years. It's part of why you pay significantly less for the kit than the lens separately. Stuff like this happens when a web designer who knows nothing about their products says "OK, the kit includes this lens so I'm going to copy and paste from the product page onto the kit page". To start talking about the legality of such things is just silly.

jimoyer said:

msu79gt82 said:

JWassall said:

You can buy the black caps for a few bucks. Kits come with the cheap press on white caps.

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Not according to the Nikon website! I'm not sure about the legality of advertising and publicly stating what's in the box and then packing something different!

Nikon Z50 Two Lens Kit link (click What’s Included): https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/mirrorless-cameras/1632/z-50.html

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I get you want the black caps, but are you really talking about legal nonsense over a few dollar retail.....and probably a few cents to Nikon.......lens caps? OK lets talk about legality. Just about every manufacturer, retailer, etc, will have, somewhere, a legal policy with language like this (which was taken from Nikons site after a few second search and I'm sure there's more that cover it)......

nor is Nikon responsible for any technical, editorial and/or typographical errors.

So my suggestion, FWIW, it to reach out to Nikon and appeal to them and maybe you'll get lucky. But if you start talking about the legality of such things to them like you did here, you'll probably be buying the coveted black caps.

Look, I agree with you about their cheap white caps. But many manufacturers do this and have been for many years. It's part of why you pay significantly less for the kit than the lens separately. Stuff like this happens when a web designer who knows nothing about their products says "OK, the kit includes this lens so I'm going to copy and paste from the product page onto the kit page". To start talking about the legality of such things is just silly.

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I believe that your'e overreacting to my comments:

1) Nikon themselves say the nicer LF-N1 caps come with the Two Lens Kit - I do not understand why several posters keep claiming/insinuating that the cheap white caps are supposed to come with kits. They are NOT supposed to come with the kits according to Nikon, who created the kits!

2) I agree that the nicer caps are relatively cheap, but that is besides the point. The nicer caps are supposed to come in the kit according to both Nikon (the manufacturer) and Adorama (the seller). You say, "It's part of why you pay significantly less for the kit than the lens separately" - This is absolutely a false statement; according to Nikon's website both the individual lenses and the kits come with the LF-N1 Rear Lens Caps. Thus the cheap white caps are contrary to what Nikon advertises. To advertise one thing and do another is the definition of false advertising.

3) Of course it would be silly to pursue legal action for $9 worth of caps and I never said I would pursue legal action. I did point out that such false advertising (bait & switch) is illegal.

4) I have already written to Adorama about the missing caps (again Adorama said the kits included the caps) and will wait to see what they say.

5) As long as consumers tolerate many manufactures doing stuff such as this then they will continue to do so. Without accountability folks will always do what they want. To me it is silly to tolerate false advertising.

Will be interested to hear the responses.

Past experience leaves me inclined to think Nikon will respond with some tangential answer that makes you wonder if they even read your inquiry, and Adorama will have actual caps in the mail the same day.

I agree that it's all a matter of principal. Nothing more. I have purchased a large amount of Nikon refurbished gear. Both from Nikon, and their dealers. You would think this would be an area they would cut corners and ship the cheap lens caps. They certainly cut costs in the boxing of refurbished cameras and lenses. However, I have never seen these cheap, pop on caps. I have always received the standard bayonet mount caps. Maybe this is something pretty new. I hope this doesn't become standard fare from Nikon.

My money is on Adorama. I bet they will take care of you.

Digital Shutterbug said:

I agree that it's all a matter of principal. Nothing more. I have purchased a large amount of Nikon refurbished gear. Both from Nikon, and their dealers. You would think this would be an area they would cut corners and ship the cheap lens caps. They certainly cut costs in the boxing of refurbished cameras and lenses. However, I have never seen these cheap, pop on caps. I have always received the standard bayonet mount caps. Maybe this is something pretty new. I hope this doesn't become standard fare from Nikon.

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It's unusual, but not new.

Some years ago, an AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D that I bought new from an approved retailer came with the white plastic push-on rear cap.

PS - I just noticed that (at the time of writing) we both have exactly the same number of total posts. Weird coincidence

briantilley said:

Digital Shutterbug said:

I agree that it's all a matter of principal. Nothing more. I have purchased a large amount of Nikon refurbished gear. Both from Nikon, and their dealers. You would think this would be an area they would cut corners and ship the cheap lens caps. They certainly cut costs in the boxing of refurbished cameras and lenses. However, I have never seen these cheap, pop on caps. I have always received the standard bayonet mount caps. Maybe this is something pretty new. I hope this doesn't become standard fare from Nikon.

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It's unusual, but not new.

Some years ago, an AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D that I bought new from an approved retailer came with the white plastic push-on rear cap.

PS - I just noticed that (at the time of writing) we both have exactly the same number of total posts. Weird coincidence

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I'm surprised I haven't seen them before now. Really surprised I haven't received one.

Yes, that's an odd occurrence, and quite amusing that you noticed it.

msu79gt82 said:

JWassall said:

You can buy the black caps for a few bucks. Kits come with the cheap press on white caps.

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Not according to the Nikon website! I'm not sure about the legality of advertising and publicly stating what's in the box and then packing something different!

Nikon Z50 Two Lens Kit link (click What’s Included): https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/mirrorless-cameras/1632/z-50.html

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I just know that I have bought other Nikon kit lenses and they came with the press on white caps so it didn’t surprise me when I got the same white caps on both the lenses in my Z50 kit.

JWassall said:

msu79gt82 said:

JWassall said:

You can buy the black caps for a few bucks. Kits come with the cheap press on white caps.

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Not according to the Nikon website! I'm not sure about the legality of advertising and publicly stating what's in the box and then packing something different!

Nikon Z50 Two Lens Kit link (click What’s Included): https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/mirrorless-cameras/1632/z-50.html

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I just know that I have bought other Nikon kit lenses and they came with the press on white caps so it didn’t surprise me when I got the same white caps on both the lenses in my Z50 kit.

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It doesn't surprise me at all that the kits come with cheap caps rather than the nicer ones. What does surprise me is that ALL of Nikon's advertising and online product descriptions say that the kits INCLUDE the nicer ones.

I'm not at all surprised that Nikon dropped the ball regarding what can only be described as advertising/marketing, but false adverting NEVER generates any good will.

IIRC the EM (maybe the FG and FG20) and Series E lenses were the first to get the clear caps. Definitely part of cost cutting on Nikon's end.

PLShutterbug said:

Nikon has been doing this for a long time with consumer-oriented kits. I bought an N2000 in 1986 or thereabouts and it came with a similar cheap white plastic body cap. I remember having the same feeling then too.

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msu79gt82 said:

JWassall said:

msu79gt82 said:

JWassall said:

You can buy the black caps for a few bucks. Kits come with the cheap press on white caps.

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Not according to the Nikon website! I'm not sure about the legality of advertising and publicly stating what's in the box and then packing something different!

Nikon Z50 Two Lens Kit link (click What’s Included): https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/mirrorless-cameras/1632/z-50.html

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I just know that I have bought other Nikon kit lenses and they came with the press on white caps so it didn’t surprise me when I got the same white caps on both the lenses in my Z50 kit.

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It doesn't surprise me at all that the kits come with cheap caps rather than the nicer ones. What does surprise me is that ALL of Nikon's advertising and online product descriptions say that the kits INCLUDE the nicer ones.

I'm not at all surprised that Nikon dropped the ball regarding what can only be described as advertising/marketing, but false adverting NEVER generates any good will.

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I slept soundly as my business died through covid lockdown. Thrown under a bus....

I felt horror and compassion for my fellow humans in Beirut with the tragedy last week.....

BUT...... OMG.... rear lens caps!!!!

I can’t sleep .... the world has ended. There’s no justice. Life will never be the same again .......

briantilley said:

Digital Shutterbug said:

I agree that it's all a matter of principal. Nothing more. I have purchased a large amount of Nikon refurbished gear. Both from Nikon, and their dealers. You would think this would be an area they would cut corners and ship the cheap lens caps. They certainly cut costs in the boxing of refurbished cameras and lenses. However, I have never seen these cheap, pop on caps. I have always received the standard bayonet mount caps. Maybe this is something pretty new. I hope this doesn't become standard fare from Nikon.

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It's unusual, but not new.

Some years ago, an AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D that I bought new from an approved retailer came with the white plastic push-on rear cap.

PS - I just noticed that (at the time of writing) we both have exactly the same number of total posts. Weird coincidence

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Yep, I bought that lens about 1992. It was on display, I asked for an unopened one and they didn't have one, while I was thinking about it they fished out its box and then I noticed they were putting a white cap on it. I queried it, they said that's what was there, and as I was looking unhappy they knocked £20 off.

And in spite of your being so emotionally overcome in all this tragedy you found the time and strength to peruse a photography gear site to offer a snarky response!

Move along now.

msu79gt82 said:

I'm not at all surprised that Nikon dropped the ball regarding what can only be described as advertising/marketing, but false adverting NEVER generates any good will.

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As I mentioned before, I wrote them and included a screenshot of the possible error shown on their site based on what people that buy the 2-lens kit actually receive. I got this flaccid response:

Wahrsager said:

msu79gt82 said:

I'm not at all surprised that Nikon dropped the ball regarding what can only be described as advertising/marketing, but false adverting NEVER generates any good will.

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As I mentioned before, I wrote them and included a screenshot of the possible error shown on their site based on what people that buy the 2-lens kit actually receive. I got this flaccid response:

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Doesn't surprise me. You should reply back and ask them why the two caps aren't the same price and why the cheap clear/white ones aren't stamped LF-N1 and more importantly why they're ashamed to put their name on them. The OEM LF-N1 say both Nikon and Nikkor.

Adorama is still looking into it my inquiry; they have twice emailed me asking for additional info.