Dualism & Street Photography

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This is a subject that has interested me since my early days in photography (1969). There is always subtle or overt dualism in my photographs. How about you? Let's explore and share how duality plays a part in our most significant photographs and what drives the impulse.
 
First you will need to 'splain "duality" to a few of us cowboys

:-D
 
You'd need to explain the term first.

Something based on metaphysics?

Mind / Body Dualism.?

Ying / Yang - Taoism.?

Tension between subject / self?

Play between photographic convention and expectation?

????

I'd say mine have a lot of dualism between physical and mental states. I'm shooting the physical but not in a way that pertains to the mundane.

One way I explore this is through my much loved (I kid prepare for me to get flamed for posting these again) 'man who isn't all there' series. They're selfies but it isn't really me that they are about like people who usually take selfies, I'm just like a frame / process for the photograph and as a sort of commentary on the nature of photography, street photography and the fragmentary nature that occurs when you're out in life but stepping back from it or re-imagining it, copying it, copying it copying itself.

Transmogrification essentially.

I'm not sure if this is the sort of discussion you had in mind, but I gave it a shot :)

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The earth laughs in flowers.
-Ralph Waldo Emmerson
Above all else, peacefulness, love and harmony.
- Noel Shoestring
 
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Another thing I like to do is capture something that suggests something more than it actually is. I've hogged enough space thus far so won't go into that until others have had a go. But usually I'm trying in my other not 'man who isn't all there' work to capture images that make suggestions other than what is literally taking place.

Of course there's duality between light and dark, juxtapositions, contrasts between someone laughing and crying in the same frame etc.

Perhaps you could define what dualism means for you?

I'd say most street is dualist in that it tries to make something visually lyrical out of the prosaic. In the broadest sense.

At the time I took this this guy could have been up to anything

When people I know look at it, like me it suggests a search for self / identity or something pertaining about the nature of identity. In reality he was probably just looking for a banana or his cell phone or thinking about what to have for lunch

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In reality some builders walking down the lane from a Cathederal. To the religious minded, on earth as it is in heaven etc?

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In reality a bloke walking past a taxi. For the imaginative who take the extra step to think 'why has the photographer chosen this scene deliberately?' - the other man who lives in the shadows, the dark bit of rough she sees that betrays / shadows the self she is in the family holiday scene....

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A man sat on his emptied out market stall. Taking a break on a hot day.

Or a man on a ship of midlife, with three relationships behind him, wondering what his next port of call is or where he's even going? The clenched fists suggesting regret or uncertainty....?

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Well that's enough from me, cheers

NB - the poster Decisive Comment does this very well, what I talked about in this post

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My Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/photonicstreetdreams/
The earth laughs in flowers.
-Ralph Waldo Emmerson
Above all else, peacefulness, love and harmony.
- Noel Shoestring
 
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You'd need to explain the term first.

Something based on metaphysics?

Mind / Body Dualism.?

Ying / Yang - Taoism.?

Tension between subject / self?

Play between photographic convention and expectation?

????

I'd say mine have a lot of dualism between physical and mental states. I'm shooting the physical but not in a way that pertains to the mundane.

One way I explore this is through my much loved (I kid prepare for me to get flamed for posting these again) 'man who isn't all there' series. They're selfies but it isn't really me that they are about like people who usually take selfies, I'm just like a frame / process for the photograph and as a sort of commentary on the nature of photography, street photography and the fragmentary nature that occurs when you're out in life but stepping back from it or re-imagining it, copying it, copying it copying itself.

Transmogrification essentially.

I'm not sure if this is the sort of discussion you had in mind, but I gave it a shot :)

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A fun set Leon :-)

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Thanks kelly

Thought this topic would get more discussion and example photos.

Guess we're all waiting for the OP to define dualism... ?
 
Confession: My college class in Philosophy did my grade average no favors.

cowboy
 
Confession: My college class in Philosophy did my grade average no favors.

cowboy
Heh heh I've read western, eastern philosophy and can think of about 10 philosophical definitions regarding dualism
 
I have had a casual interest in eastern culture and society (usually triggered by a photo of a model in a kimono), but have not dipped into eastern philosophy.

virtualtourist
 
Love most of the selfies and found your explanations interesting about the others. I am a bit simple and generally think a street photo should have at least two things going on e.g. juxtaposition, matching colors, people interacting. Never even heard the word dualism before, but usually find it interesting when people interpret what they see, or add some creative writing like Frank does sometimes. Gets the brain thinking a bit and gives the genre more depth. 👍

Looked up “Transmogrification” (transform in a surprising or magical manner) and think that is a great way to approach SP. It has inspired me to look for opportunities for Transmogrification instead of just snapshotting. 👍
 
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Another thing I like to do is capture something that suggests something more than it actually is..
This seems like a good overview for dualism to me. Like the excellent “Not a dream” woman and girl by the lake photo posted by almostgreen . Could be a variety of things; simply a mother chatting to daughter, grieving widow passing on some wise words to a random girl in the park... The name “Not a dream” suggests a surreal moment was imagined by the photographer.
NB - the poster Decisive Comment does this very well, what I talked about in this post
Will look his photos up now.
 
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This is a subject that has interested me since my early days in photography (1969). There is always subtle or overt dualism in my photographs. How about you? Let's explore and share how duality plays a part in our most significant photographs and what drives the impulse.
Simply put "contrasting elements."
 
You'd need to explain the term first.

Something based on metaphysics?

Mind / Body Dualism.?

Ying / Yang - Taoism.?

Tension between subject / self?

Play between photographic convention and expectation?

????

I'd say mine have a lot of dualism between physical and mental states. I'm shooting the physical but not in a way that pertains to the mundane.

One way I explore this is through my much loved (I kid prepare for me to get flamed for posting these again) 'man who isn't all there' series. They're selfies but it isn't really me that they are about like people who usually take selfies, I'm just like a frame / process for the photograph and as a sort of commentary on the nature of photography, street photography and the fragmentary nature that occurs when you're out in life but stepping back from it or re-imagining it, copying it, copying it copying itself.

Transmogrification essentially.

I'm not sure if this is the sort of discussion you had in mind, but I gave it a shot :)

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e144c63ef4b3485f97a746158b87667c.jpg

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Yeah Taoism!
 
Another thing I like to do is capture something that suggests something more than it actually is. I've hogged enough space thus far so won't go into that until others have had a go. But usually I'm trying in my other not 'man who isn't all there' work to capture images that make suggestions other than what is literally taking place.

Of course there's duality between light and dark, juxtapositions, contrasts between someone laughing and crying in the same frame etc.

Perhaps you could define what dualism means for you?

I'd say most street is dualist in that it tries to make something visually lyrical out of the prosaic. In the broadest sense.

At the time I took this this guy could have been up to anything

When people I know look at it, like me it suggests a search for self / identity or something pertaining about the nature of identity. In reality he was probably just looking for a banana or his cell phone or thinking about what to have for lunch

4df0b55d755345beba568f3e790e58a3.jpg

In reality some builders walking down the lane from a Cathederal. To the religious minded, on earth as it is in heaven etc?

7c5a41670ff64a8fb30561eb46bfe146.jpg

In reality a bloke walking past a taxi. For the imaginative who take the extra step to think 'why has the photographer chosen this scene deliberately?' - the other man who lives in the shadows, the dark bit of rough she sees that betrays / shadows the self she is in the family holiday scene....

2933ac23d6ff476799af7fd355a341d0.jpg

A man sat on his emptied out market stall. Taking a break on a hot day.

Or a man on a ship of midlife, with three relationships behind him, wondering what his next port of call is or where he's even going? The clenched fists suggesting regret or uncertainty....?

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Well that's enough from me, cheers

NB - the poster Decisive Comment does this very well, what I talked about in this post
Yeah juxtapositions.
 
Love most of the selfies and found your explanations interesting about the others. I am a bit simple and generally think a street photo should have at least two things going on e.g. juxtaposition, matching colors, people interacting. Never even heard the word dualism before, but usually find it interesting when people interpret what they see, or add some creative writing like Frank does sometimes. Gets the brain thinking a bit and gives the genre more depth. 👍

Looked up “Transmogrification” (transform in a surprising or magical manner) and think that is a great way to approach SP. It has inspired me to look for opportunities for Transmogrification instead of just snapshotting. 👍
Transmogrification is too heady for me. Can't imaging going out to photograph looking for transmogrifications. Not my cup of tea anyway.
 
Confession: My college class in Philosophy did my grade average no favors.

cowboy
Discovering my personal philosophy is what I learned in college philosophy class. Yin/Yang is an element of that.
That class was wasted on me. The only scrap of knowledge from it that I still remember today was a brief discussion between two philosophers. One had proposed that reality is just an illusion. His friend retorted "I disprove it thus" and kicked a stone by the path.

ouchie
 
Confession: My college class in Philosophy did my grade average no favors.

cowboy
Discovering my personal philosophy is what I learned in college philosophy class. Yin/Yang is an element of that.
That class was wasted on me. The only scrap of knowledge from it that I still remember today was a brief discussion between two philosophers. One had proposed that reality is just an illusion. His friend retorted "I disprove it thus" and kicked a stone by the path.

ouchie
Reminds me of a friend who was a science guy and said the theory of probability or possibility or whatever means that if you banged your head against a wall infinite amounts of times there was a probability that eventually your head would go through the wall making no contact with it.

I dared him to try it. He would not :)
 

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