Haven't used my Canon in a month, Thanks a lot Sony!

The idea was I was buying the RX10 MIV so when i went out on hikes I wouldnt have to lug around the Canon 90D and Canon 400 IS F/5.6 when looking for birds. But this camera seems be a "jack of all trades" and im spending a lot of time with it ( except when im sleeping ). Anyway I dont think my images will ever compare to what the regulars on here can do but Im amazed at what I can produce.......

I even just bought a Canon 100 Macro IS L, but I think I like the Sony better........

windoze said:

The idea was I was buying the RX10 MIV so when i went out on hikes I wouldnt have to lug around the Canon 90D and Canon 400 IS F/5.6 when looking for birds. But this camera seems be a "jack of all trades" and im spending a lot of time with it ( except when im sleeping ). Anyway I dont think my images will ever compare to what the regulars on here can do but Im amazed at what I can produce.......

I even just bought a Canon 100 Macro IS L, but I think I like the Sony better........

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This is a nice photograph but looking at it in 1:1 scale does not seem like it would be giving a good macro lens a run for its money. It may handle nicer. Maybe a suitable raw processor would help bringing the shot's qualities out better?

I mean, my old 10MP DSC-R1 from 2005 with add-on closeup lenses gives hairy-eyed bees a nicer presentation, and I would expect a proper macro lens to run circles around my setup:



That does not change, of course, that the RX10M4 can pack quite some punch without any add-on equipment. But if you want to make your elaborate equipment look redundant, I think there are some stops in post-processing that you can still pull.

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Dak

I agree with you.

I bought the Sony RX10 IV to eventually replace my Canon 6D system, and has done just that, perfectly.

canuck dave said:

I agree with you.

I bought the Sony RX10 IV to eventually replace my Canon 6D system, and has done just that, perfectly.

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BTW - i looked at your flickr website - you have some amazing photos there!

Troy

Dak on cam said:

This is a nice photograph but looking at it in 1:1 scale does not seem like it would be giving a good macro lens a run for its money. It may handle nicer. Maybe a suitable raw processor would help bringing the shot's qualities out better?

I mean, my old 10MP DSC-R1 from 2005 with add-on closeup lenses gives hairy-eyed bees a nicer presentation, and I would expect a proper macro lens to run circles around my setup:



That does not change, of course, that the RX10M4 can pack quite some punch without any add-on equipment. But if you want to make your elaborate equipment look redundant, I think there are some stops in post-processing that you can still pull.

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That's a beauty!!! Dont even tell me that was handheld!!

Obviously I have a long learning curve to climb.

windoze

windoze said:

windoze said:

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That's a beauty!!! Dont even tell me that was handheld!!

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I would guess that a flash was used -- great shot in any case.

Bert

windoze said:

windoze said:

This is a nice photograph but looking at it in 1:1 scale does not seem like it would be giving a good macro lens a run for its money. It may handle nicer. Maybe a suitable raw processor would help bringing the shot's qualities out better?

I mean, my old 10MP DSC-R1 from 2005 with add-on closeup lenses gives hairy-eyed bees a nicer presentation, and I would expect a proper macro lens to run circles around my setup:



That does not change, of course, that the RX10M4 can pack quite some punch without any add-on equipment. But if you want to make your elaborate equipment look redundant, I think there are some stops in post-processing that you can still pull.

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That's a beauty!!! Dont even tell me that was handheld!!

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Try capturing bees with a tripod... Well, the EXIF tells the story: 1/2000s and flash (and the black background also is typical for flash and short exposure). The DSC-R1 does not have image stabilisation, but it does have electronic shutter that will flash-sync at any speed.

One of the closeup buffs in the Panasonic forum uses a kind of straight walking stick as a monopod, grabbing both camera and stick at the right height. That is supposed to give some stabilisation while allowing for immediate height "adjustment". I haven't tried it myself, but it might be worth a try when working without closeup lenses and in natural light. Though it probably lends itself better to smaller cameras.

windoze said:

Obviously I have a long learning curve to climb.

windoze

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Well, post processing helps making a good shot appear better. For comparison, here is the above bee in a JPEG from the camera (of course, with newer cameras the difference between working from raw and taking the camera's JPEG may be less striking).





Good but less clearly standing out, and if you compare in 1:1 view the eye and first foreleg (and the pollen on it), there is quite a difference. Also the raw processor does some (but apparently not enough by default) chromatic aberration correction of my closeup lense stack (which is achromatic, but if you pile it on...) which you can see with the colored borders of the blossom sticking out before the bee's head. I think I need to revisit the processing. Color fringes really should be a non-issue with your good macro lens, and also with the RX10m4 if you are not using any add-on lenses.

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Dak

Happy that you like your new camera!

Don't sell the canon gear just yet, though. A couple of years from now you might need it again.

Back in the summer of 2018 I bought an RX10 M4 for a specific purpose, thinking that after that maybe I'd use the thing once in a while.....and instead found myself using it pretty much solely over the next year and half while my Nikon gear sat in the bag unused..... Eventually I came to the point that while I loved the RX10 there were some things that I really wanted to have full frame and a reasonably-sized sensor for, and one of those things was in shooting macros. I eventually bought the A7R IV and a couple of macro lenses and other lenses and have been very happy with my choices. That said, I still do use that RX10 M4, too, as it is quick and easy to grab and fire off in the time that it would take me to assemble my A7R IV and a long lens, get it on the tripod, etc., etc..... There's room in this household for both types of gear.

Good advice and "I get it" !

windoze

Clix Pix said:

Back in the summer of 2018 I bought an RX10 M4 for a specific purpose, thinking that after that maybe I'd use the thing once in a while.....and instead found myself using it pretty much solely over the next year and half while my Nikon gear sat in the bag unused..... Eventually I came to the point that while I loved the RX10 there were some things that I really wanted to have full frame and a reasonably-sized sensor for, and one of those things was in shooting macros. I eventually bought the A7R IV and a couple of macro lenses and other lenses and have been very happy with my choices. That said, I still do use that RX10 M4, too, as it is quick and easy to grab and fire off in the time that it would take me to assemble my A7R IV and a long lens, get it on the tripod, etc., etc..... There's room in this household for both types of gear.

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I appreciate your story and agree with your advice!

windoze