wheeled stand with small footprint but that can hold boom with 39" octa with 3kg light.

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I'm searching for my small studio for a wheeled boom stand with smallest possible footprint that can hold 3kg light with a big octabox 39" preferably without need of using any extra sand bags. So I assume the stand would have to be heavy. Can anyone recommend something like this?
 
Small footprint and a large modifier means things tip over and crash. The easiest thing I’ve found is a C stand with a turtle base (Avenger is my choice) and replace the base with a Kupo runway roller. Depending on height needed, you might prefer a “baby C” stand - the standard C stand is 10ft max, baby C is 5ft max. But you should weight it at the base with a pumpkin weight or BOA bag, and always boom the arm/light over a leg.

Standard C stand with turtle base:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/243966-REG/Avenger_A2030DKIT_A2030D_Turtle_Base_Century.html

Kupo runway base:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/862494-REG/Kupo_ks301012_Runway_Stand_Base.html

Pumpkin weight:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/5367-REG/Manfrotto_022_022_Counter_Balance_Weight.html

BOA bag:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/222301-REG/Matthews_299887_Junior_Boa_Weight_Bag.html

Nice work BTW!
 
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I do not know if this will work for you but a local dealer just showed me one and I think it is a pretty clever design. The two legs extend away from the apex. https://savageuniversal.com/products/grip-equipment/rolling-base/

You will have to add your own C-stand column and boom. For the boom I recommend the MSEGrip.com Mini-boom.
 
I do not know if this will work for you but a local dealer just showed me one and I think it is a pretty clever design. The two legs extend away from the apex. https://savageuniversal.com/products/grip-equipment/rolling-base/

You will have to add your own C-stand column and boom. For the boom I recommend the MSEGrip.com Mini-boom.
I really like the look of that.

The OP will still need a long enough boom to counterweight and balance the light and modifier.

Gato
 
I do not know if this will work for you but a local dealer just showed me one and I think it is a pretty clever design. The two legs extend away from the apex. https://savageuniversal.com/products/grip-equipment/rolling-base/

You will have to add your own C-stand column and boom. For the boom I recommend the MSEGrip.com Mini-boom.
I really like the look of that.

The OP will still need a long enough boom to counterweight and balance the light and modifier.

Gato
If you add a second C-Stand colum using the forward spigot along with a C-Stand arm, grip head and a clamp to go around the boom . and enough sandbags, you might b table to do without the backend of the boom. But it will be
  • more pieces means a more complicated set up, also more money
  • you won't be able to pivot the boom laterally
  • adjusting the height o nthe boom will be very tricky, possibly a two person job.
 
If you add a second C-Stand colum using the forward spigot along with a C-Stand arm, grip head and a clamp to go around the boom . and enough sandbags, you might b table to do without the backend of the boom. But it will be
  • more pieces means a more complicated set up, also more money
  • you won't be able to pivot the boom laterally
  • adjusting the height o nthe boom will be very tricky, possibly a two person job.
I was wondering about that. You're veering into Menace Arm territory with, as you imply, cantilever mechanics rather than counterbalanced ones. Could be OK as long as the photographer keeps thinking and that his or her assistants don't loosen the wrong knuckles. But it could save space - Tx for sharing!
 
If you add a second C-Stand colum using the forward spigot along with a C-Stand arm, grip head and a clamp to go around the boom . and enough sandbags, you might b table to do without the backend of the boom. But it will be
  • more pieces means a more complicated set up, also more money
  • you won't be able to pivot the boom laterally
  • adjusting the height o nthe boom will be very tricky, possibly a two person job.
I was wondering about that. You're veering into Menace Arm territory with, as you imply, cantilever mechanics rather than counterbalanced ones. Could be OK as long as the photographer keeps thinking and that his or her assistants don't loosen the wrong knuckles. But it could save space - Tx for sharing!
What ScratchDisk is referring to by “Menace Arm”: https://products.msegrip.com/products/max-menace-arm
 
I was wondering about that. You're veering into Menace Arm territory with, as you imply, cantilever mechanics rather than counterbalanced ones. Could be OK as long as the photographer keeps thinking and that his or her assistants don't loosen the wrong knuckles. But it could save space - Tx for sharing!
The MSE MAX family of support is clever, and MiniMAX is on my wish list. Note the design is a lever just like a boom, not a cantilever. MAX calls for counterweighting although the resulting fulcrum can lie anywhere between the front and rear of the foot assembly. The big MSE unit (MAX Menace) takes barbell weight plates for a high "mechanical advantage" hence the steel construction—and the $6K price!
 

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