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Interesting pics showing how the two DO lenses look extended. The 800/11 at 2.77lbs is substantially lighter than the 100-400/LII.

Also the 85/2IS is a 0.5x macro as expected.

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New Canon RF mirrorless lenses: 85mm f/2, 600mm f/11, 800mm f/11, 100-500mm f/4.5-7.1 - Photo Rumors

Freshly leaked details on the upcoming Canon RF mirrorless lenses: Canon RF 85mm f/2 Macro IS STM lens 12 lens elements in 11 groups (including 1 UD lens) Minimum shooting distance: 0.35m Maximum shooting magnification: 0.5x Image stabilization effect: 5 steps Filter diameter: 67mm Size: 78 x...
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pawn said:
gimp_dad said:
Interesting pics showing how the two DO lenses look extended. The 800/11 at 2.77lbs is substantially lighter than the 100-400/LII.

Also the 85/2IS is a 0.5x macro as expected.

https://photorumors.com/2020/07/05/...ss-lenses-85mm-f-2-600mm-f-11-800mm-f-11/amp/
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Thx gimp_dad for the info

I wonder if 800mm f/11 is any good (wrt sharpness and AF speed). Can't wait for the official announcement and pre-reviews
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Agreed. I'm interested to find out the exact same thing. Hard to imagine F11 and STM can deliver on AF speed but I'm going to keep an open mind until we know the answer for sure.
 
BirdShooter7 said:
The size and weight look good but the MFD of 6m on the 800 and only 4 stop IS maybe not so great.
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Agreed, 4 stops. I'm also interested to know how it feels structurally. The extended lens looks a little less than robust in the picture. Hard to tell from just one image though...
 
gimp_dad said:
pawn said:
gimp_dad said:
Interesting pics showing how the two DO lenses look extended. The 800/11 at 2.77lbs is substantially lighter than the 100-400/LII.

Also the 85/2IS is a 0.5x macro as expected.

https://photorumors.com/2020/07/05/...ss-lenses-85mm-f-2-600mm-f-11-800mm-f-11/amp/
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Thx gimp_dad for the info

I wonder if 800mm f/11 is any good (wrt sharpness and AF speed). Can't wait for the official announcement and pre-reviews
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Agreed. I'm interested to find out the exact same thing. Hard to imagine F11 and STM can deliver on AF speed but I'm going to keep an open mind until we know the answer for sure.
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If the Canon EF 400mm F4 DO IS II USM is any clue, it should be good.

Granted it's not an L, but, Canon's latest attempts at DO, have been quite good.

With 10 elements in 7 groups (or 11 in 8 for the 800mm), and sub 1300g, an STM motor probably can drive the focusing element/s. That's one of the benefits of meshing f/11 and DO; not as much glass to move.

That 800mm though, 95mm filter size? Pretty hefty. However, the 800 f/5.6L is like, 163mm? This thing (the 800 f/11 DO) is nearly a quarter the weight, and nearly half the length. Intriguing.
 
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Plus IBIS.
 
You catch the part (just out from NK) about the RF extenders (both 1.4x and 2x); they're all compatible with each other (RF 100-500L, RF 600 DO, RF 800 DO).

In theory, you could do 1600mm, granted at like f/22, or something like that? But doing it handheld? That's slick.
 
BirdShooter7 said:
The size and weight look good but the MFD of 6m on the 800 and only 4 stop IS maybe not so great.
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The 4 stops are with the OIS alone. Paired with the IBIS of R6/5 it should give 5 or 6 stops.
 
Thanks for the news..

The weight of the new RF 85mm F/2.0 is almost the same as the classic Canon EF 85mm F/1.8 (500g vs 425g). The new RF 85 lens also comes with IS..

Hopefully the price of this new RF 85mm IS lens is within the budget of mortal being like me...
 
The 600 and the 800 must extend to operate. So, surely they must also feature some kind of lock.

I am sure this option was required to keep the overall dimensions and weight within reason.

I only have one lens with a lock and that's the EF-M 11-22.

Since all my other lenses don't have a lock, it is frequent for me to forget it and lose some seconds unlocking it.

Believe me, it will often work like this: Opportunity ---> Remove lens on camera ---> Mount the 600/800 ---> Prepare to shoot ---> Realize the lock is on ---> Unlock and extend the lens ---> Prepare to shoot ---> Opportunity lost.

Pending on price and optical performance, the 800 was starting to feel to me like a "why not buy it?" lens.

On account of the inconvenient lock, it will have to perform absolutely outstandingly in those two areas for me to continue considering it.

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PhotoKhan said:
The 600 and the 800 must extend to operate. So, surely they must also feature some kind of lock.

I am sure this option was required to keep the overall dimensions and weight within reason.

I only have one lens with a lock and that's the EF-M 11-22.

Since all my other lenses don't have a lock, it is frequent for me to forget it and lose some seconds unlocking it.

Believe me, it will often work like this: Opportunity ---> Remove lens on camera ---> Mount the 600/800 ---> Prepare to shoot ---> Realize the lock is on ---> Unlock and extend the lens ---> Prepare to shoot ---> Opportunity lost.

Pending on price and optical performance, the 800 was starting to feel to me like a "why not buy it?" lens.

On account of the inconvenient lock, it will have to perform absolutely outstandingly in those two areas for me to continue considering it.

PK
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So it will be more like:

+ 100% : New opportunities from new lens class

- 5% : Lost opportunity from lock

= 95% : New opportunities

Still, better than nothing I guess.
 
lightnchade said:
PhotoKhan said:
The 600 and the 800 must extend to operate. So, surely they must also feature some kind of lock.

I am sure this option was required to keep the overall dimensions and weight within reason.

I only have one lens with a lock and that's the EF-M 11-22.

Since all my other lenses don't have a lock, it is frequent for me to forget it and lose some seconds unlocking it.

Believe me, it will often work like this: Opportunity ---> Remove lens on camera ---> Mount the 600/800 ---> Prepare to shoot ---> Realize the lock is on ---> Unlock and extend the lens ---> Prepare to shoot ---> Opportunity lost.

Pending on price and optical performance, the 800 was starting to feel to me like a "why not buy it?" lens.

On account of the inconvenient lock, it will have to perform absolutely outstandingly in those two areas for me to continue considering it.

PK
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So it will be more like:

+ 100% : New opportunities from new lens class

- 5% : Lost opportunity from lock

= 95% : New opportunities

Still, better than nothing I guess.
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And to resolve that 5% loss, you can probably keep the lens locked, at the cost of a larger bag to hold it.
 
lightnchade said:
PhotoKhan said:
The 600 and the 800 must extend to operate. So, surely they must also feature some kind of lock.

I am sure this option was required to keep the overall dimensions and weight within reason.

I only have one lens with a lock and that's the EF-M 11-22.

Since all my other lenses don't have a lock, it is frequent for me to forget it and lose some seconds unlocking it.

Believe me, it will often work like this: Opportunity ---> Remove lens on camera ---> Mount the 600/800 ---> Prepare to shoot ---> Realize the lock is on ---> Unlock and extend the lens ---> Prepare to shoot ---> Opportunity lost.

Pending on price and optical performance, the 800 was starting to feel to me like a "why not buy it?" lens.

On account of the inconvenient lock, it will have to perform absolutely outstandingly in those two areas for me to continue considering it.

PK
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So it will be more like:

+ 100% : New opportunities from new lens class

- 5% : Lost opportunity from lock

= 95% : New opportunities

Still, better than nothing I guess.
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Yes.
 
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