300D seems NOT to be flying off the shelfs

Have you noticed the ready availability of the 300D. What could the reason be?

Here are some ideas

1. The market is not ready for the 300D
2. Canon flooded the marketplace so to be ready for the Christmas season
3. The economy
4. The market sees the limitations in this camera - as so many have
pointed out.

Another question to ponder

What will be the reception afforded the 828?

Comments appreciated.

Bob

Bob Balan said:

Have you noticed the ready availability of the 300D. What could
the reason be?

Here are some ideas

1. The market is not ready for the 300D
2. Canon flooded the marketplace so to be ready for the Christmas
season
3. The economy
4. The market sees the limitations in this camera - as so many have
pointed out.

Another question to ponder

What will be the reception afforded the 828?

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I think if the 828 lives up to it's specs, then the reception should be good. But I do not know what kind of numbers Sony is expecting. The camera is not cheap, but it will interest a lot of people who want the very best without entering into the dSLR system cameras.

If I were to predict, I would say the F828 is going to be very successful, even more than the F717. But I really have no educated or knowledge to base my prediction. It is just a gut feeling.

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Bob

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Most likely reason, Canon has gotten the act together manufacturing CMOS sensors and so is able to meet demand. The 717 was readily available on store shelves within a month of it's release, and I would say it was a success, as the 300D appears to be. FYI, in my area, neither the 300D or the 10D is in stock at any of our 4 Circuit City and Best Buy stores.

Bob Balan said:

Have you noticed the ready availability of the 300D. What could
the reason be?

Here are some ideas

1. The market is not ready for the 300D
2. Canon flooded the marketplace so to be ready for the Christmas
season
3. The economy
4. The market sees the limitations in this camera - as so many have
pointed out.

Another question to ponder

What will be the reception afforded the 828?

Comments appreciated.

Bob

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My guess is that 828 sales will be somewhat hampered by the size/weight factors. It's as big and heavy/bulky as a dslr. I can recall many folks passing on the 717 because they thought it was too large(lens barrel and unorthodox way of having to hold it.)

Neither of the above complaints had been a problem with me, but from past threads it was obvious that there were lots of folks who had not taken a liking to it's form .

I have a feeling that the 717 would continue to be popular and sell good even when the 828 becomes available. Sony might be wise to discontinue it to market the 828 instead. IMO,the A-1 image quality is still not as good as the 717. The 717 is still less noisier too. The 717 might outdo the 828 with regards to noise.
I was hot on the 828 at first but I have since taken a wait and see approach.

With regards to the low priced 300D ,I think that particular camera, with help from the low cost super zooms (FZ1,FZ10,HP 945,Kodak 9640 (?) etc)and to some extent the 10D have simply eroded the high end one lens system former exhorbitant prices (witness the A-1 price reduction)

The old 7/8X lenses of Minolta and Sony aren't nearly as big news as they once were. DSLR's are looking more affordable to more and more buyers and

of course the market will be ever expanding as well as the shake out period continuing a few more years so A-1 ,828 sales shouldn't suffer too badly as long as the costs are more reasonable than they have been in the past..
John

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In two branches of Jessops in the Uk that I've visited I've seen 300D's in stock, however the 10D is still on a 2-4week wait. Generally you are told that 10D's dribble in. I would expect the reverse due to the pricing difference. I actually got my 10D as a customer who had ordered it(put it on reserve) had failed to turn up that day and they said I could have it instead.

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LOL. . . a few of you guys are too funny.

I'm not a 300D fan, but my experience with it has been great considering its limitations. Even after purchasing one as a backup to my 10D, the camera doesn't compare feature wise to the 10D.

In case you haven’t heard, Canon flooded the market with the 300D in order to meet the potential of demand. They pushed the camera into every single nook and cranny of the market. This is why the built a whole new CMOS sensor fabrication plant this year. Looking at the Canon 300D board alone might hint at the popularity of the camera.

Bob Balan said:

Have you noticed the ready availability of the 300D. What could
the reason be?

Here are some ideas

1. The market is not ready for the 300D
2. Canon flooded the marketplace so to be ready for the Christmas
season
3. The economy
4. The market sees the limitations in this camera - as so many have
pointed out.

Another question to ponder

What will be the reception afforded the 828?

Comments appreciated.

Bob

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Stephen, do you feel the 300D's AF is slightly faster or more accurate than the 10D's?

Oops, I know this question should then be in the 300D forum but since you're here... :-D

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Stephen Reed wrote:
LOL. . . a few of you guys are too funny.
I'm not a 300D fan, but my experience with it has been great
considering its limitations. Even after purchasing one as a backup
to my 10D, the camera doesn't compare feature wise to the 10D.

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My guess is that 828 sales will be somewhat hampered by the
size/weight factors. It's as big and heavy/bulky as a dslr.

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I for one welcome the new changes to the size and look. If people wanted a capable camera in a smaller package, get the G5, V1 or others. Why whine about wanting the F828 but it's just too big, blah, blah, blah... Just buy something else then!

Silly, isn't it? :-D Like all they have to do all day is surf around and whine! How else can you handle a superb camera if it were tiny? :-D LOL!

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too large(lens barrel and unorthodox way of having to hold it.)

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Wonder why people think that way? A SLR also requires it to be held that way: Left hand under and supporting the lens, right hand gripping the handgrip. Sounds logical enough to me!

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Bob Balan said:

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Have you noticed the ready availability of the 300D. What could
the reason be?

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They've probably - for the moment - gotten supply now to compensate for the demand.

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If it's affordable, it will do very well. I for one am waiting for it and if it doesn't disappoint (I don't have sky-high expectations that it must equal or outdo the 300D which is ludicrus!), it will be my next digicam! (As well as the FZ10 - IF it too does not disappoint)

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Bob Balan wrote:
Have you noticed the ready availability of the 300D. What could
the reason be?

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They've probably - for the moment - gotten supply now to compensate
for the demand.

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Someone in another thread mentioned that Canon was producing 70,000 300Ds a month. I don't know if that is accurate or not, but it was mentioned.

larz

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Bob Balan wrote:
Have you noticed the ready availability of the 300D. What could
the reason be?

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They've probably - for the moment - gotten supply now to compensate
for the demand.

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What will be the reception afforded the 828?

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If it's affordable, it will do very well. I for one am waiting for
it and if it doesn't disappoint (I don't have sky-high expectations
that it must equal or outdo the 300D which is ludicrus!), it will
be my next digicam! (As well as the FZ10 - IF it too does not
disappoint)

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I'm curious about what you are saying here. Do you just mean that the 300D will have better noise control than the 828? Or do you mean that the 300D will be better than the 828 in other respects? Now we are obviously talking apples and oranges, but purely from your statement I'm wondering why you are going for the 828? Is it a more convenient form factor for you, together with the one-lens solution, or were you speaking purely about noise or something? Shallow DOF, after all,is only useful for a particular 'look', and may not be important to everyone.
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I've heard some say the 300D AF performes better than the 10D, but I don't experience this. They perform exactly the same as far AF-wise as I can tell. I think the 300D metering is a bit of a dissapointment compared to my 10D and 717, BUT this may be due to the fact that I haven't worked with it enough. Others seem to have hit it off just fine with the 300D.

Tigadee said:

Stephen, do you feel the 300D's AF is slightly faster or more
accurate than the 10D's?

Oops, I know this question should then be in the 300D forum but
since you're here... :-D

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300d not flying off the shelves, eh? well, one recently flew off the shelves into my home. you see, i've been waiting a long time for a somewhat affordable digital camera to which you can attach real lenses with good optics, and interchange the lenses with other lenses of different focal lengths, depending on the situation that arises, i.e. a digital SLR. that's the advantage of an SLR, and it's at huge one. the digital part of the equation allows me to see results right away, while saving the cost and trouble of film processing.

of course, this camera is going to be more expensive than a point and shoot like the sonys, but with the multitude of great lenses available for the canon, the photos i'll be taking will be worth it. then again, if you really want to use a one size fits all situations lens like a point and shoot has, you can do that with the 300d as well.

Bob Balan said:

Have you noticed the ready availability of the 300D. What could
the reason be?

Here are some ideas

1. The market is not ready for the 300D
2. Canon flooded the marketplace so to be ready for the Christmas
season
3. The economy
4. The market sees the limitations in this camera - as so many have
pointed out.

Another question to ponder

What will be the reception afforded the 828?

Comments appreciated.

Bob

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Are you saying that since one can go to a store and find a 300D for sale therfore they are not selling well? That's a pretty big deductive leap, IMHO. Please explain how availability equates to poor sales. In simple terms, there's a bagel shop in my building, always full of bagels, and they sell them 24 hours a day, so what's different about 300D's? Without actual sales figures this is a fatuous discussion, IMHO.

Bob Balan said:

Have you noticed the ready availability of the 300D. What could
the reason be?
1. The market is not ready for the 300D
2. Canon flooded the marketplace so to be ready for the Christmas
season
3. The economy
4. The market sees the limitations in this camera - as so many have
pointed out.

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on the STF! And judging from the lack of interest, rightfully so, it is obvious that more than a couple of people agree. I see absolutely no purpose to this type post other than to have this thread posted on CTF to create turmoil on both forums on a quiet weekend. Hopefully everyone will try and ignore this and give the poster the benefit of not realizing how tiring these type posts have become!!!

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Bob Balan said:

Have you noticed the ready availability of the 300D. What could
the reason be?
1. The market is not ready for the 300D
2. Canon flooded the marketplace so to be ready for the Christmas
season
3. The economy
4. The market sees the limitations in this camera - as so many have
pointed out.

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Bob Balan said:

Have you noticed the ready availability of the 300D. What could
the reason be?

Here are some ideas

1. The market is not ready for the 300D
2. Canon flooded the marketplace so to be ready for the Christmas
season
3. The economy
4. The market sees the limitations in this camera - as so many have
pointed out.

Another question to ponder

What will be the reception afforded the 828?

Comments appreciated.

Bob

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Nope the reason is EVERYONE bought the 10D Laughingggggg, but NOT KIDDING!

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Well I gotta tell ya, us two women here, love that big bulky design lol. I mean it! Pat got the Nikon 995 and simply HATED IT on contact! She said it was like working in miniture mode laughinggggggggggg. And me I didn't care for it at ALL!!!! I like to feel the camera in my hands , I don't want to squint and press air when I try to find buttons etc. Also Pat hated the lens laughingggggggg said it was the size of a quarter lol. I don't know different strokes for different folks I guess gang. Better for purse I would guess sure but when we are out taking pics we don't bring DA PURSE! Soooooo this 828 is looking sweet to us that's for sure!

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Bob Balan said:

Have you noticed the ready availability of the 300D. What could
the reason be?

Here are some ideas

1. The market is not ready for the 300D
2. Canon flooded the marketplace so to be ready for the Christmas
season
3. The economy
4. The market sees the limitations in this camera - as so many have
pointed out.

Another question to ponder

What will be the reception afforded the 828?

Comments appreciated.

Bob

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I'm with you there on that one. I wouldn't even consider the 300d, nope if I go canon it's the 10D for me or nothing!

Just luv your designer shells for the 10D, dah-ling! They look MaR-velous! (Billy Crystal impression from Sat. Nite Live)

Stephen Reed said:

Stephen Reed wrote:
I've heard some say the 300D AF performes better than the 10D, but
I don't experience this. They perform exactly the same as far
AF-wise as I can tell. I think the 300D metering is a bit of a
dissapointment compared to my 10D and 717, BUT this may be due to
the fact that I haven't worked with it enough. Others seem to have
hit it off just fine with the 300D.

Tigadee said:

Stephen, do you feel the 300D's AF is slightly faster or more
accurate than the 10D's?

Oops, I know this question should then be in the 300D forum but
since you're here... :-D

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Bob Balan said:

Have you noticed the ready availability of the 300D. What could
the reason be?

Here are some ideas

1. The market is not ready for the 300D
2. Canon flooded the marketplace so to be ready for the Christmas
season
3. The economy
4. The market sees the limitations in this camera - as so many have
pointed out.

Another question to ponder

What will be the reception afforded the 828?

Comments appreciated.

Bob

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All I have to say on this is "Why do we all have to like and have the same camera?" If you like the 300d buy it and enjoyyyyyyyyyy. If you like the fugi same thing. If you like the sony then buy it. Enjoy what you buy and bring on the pics!