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Thom Hogan's review of the D780 is out
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Michel van Lint
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Sounds like another winner to me. Then again, I am happy to say I have learnt to be more worried about technique, then the equipment. I also have an X-T2 mirrorless and honestly, I don't see the difference between DSLR and mirrorless. That said, I am more than guilty of buyings things I did not really actually need in all honesty...
Thoughts R Us
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As usual, the whole ends up being more than the sum of its parts.
The problem is that too many are programmed to just judge a piece of technological equipment by its specs. Many Youtubers pronounce judgement based on specs without even using the device.
It's a fabulous camera...it's a shame that not too many people know that.
The problem is that too many are programmed to just judge a piece of technological equipment by its specs. Many Youtubers pronounce judgement based on specs without even using the device.
It's a fabulous camera...it's a shame that not too many people know that.
Flashlight
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Seems a sensible review, but with the D850 selling @ €3100, the D780 @ €2300 and the D750 @ €1300 I think the D750 is still very attractive if your funds are not unlimited. I already have two D750's, am very happy with them and will stay put.
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Maybe the problem isn't the Youtubers but the industry itself in how various technical specs were the ones that ruled the industry - ie these are the ten specifications that we have quantified to be the true measure of a camera - and the people listened.
The industry seems to have moved on from those technical specifications and more into things that they could have quantified but failed to do so - ie how quick a camera can acquire and object and how fast it can re-acquire that object or how quickly someone can start shooting again after the buffer has been filled? In other words, in a word of their own creation (the technical specification), the industry should have came up with new specifications to show how good the camera was!
Thoughts R Us
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That is a very insightful comment.
What if the camera industry and the reviewers/commenters, etc...had chosen to focus on things like usability and even the enjoyment factor of cameras, and maybe a little less on arcane tech specs? Would they have done better against the smartphones than they have?
What if there had been more discussion and marketing over the fun of using an ILC, it's responsiveness, and seeing the output, and maybe a little less obsession over things like DR?
Because clearly the lesson is that most customers value usability, convenience, ease of use, over tech specs.
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T O Shooter
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I don't have a "click where I buy" button, so I'll call it as I see it. No grip option - Idiots R Us. No grip option D7xx line terminated at D750.
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Review for naive listeners. What did you expect?
It fundamentally doesn’t matter how highly Thom Hogan reviews the D780. What matters is how well its features are balanced against its price. For most people the conclusion seems to have been that the D780 is overpriced for what it offers.
The near complete absence of enthusiasm, samples, or inquiries about this camera model is palpable in the forum here. Personally I’ve never seen a less "talked about" Nikon camera than the D780. I don't think anyone's buying them.
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The near complete absence of enthusiasm, samples, or inquiries about this camera model is palpable in the forum here. Personally I’ve never seen a less "talked about" Nikon camera than the D780. I don't think anyone's buying them.
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G Pik
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At least it is a written review not one of these stupid video reviews!!!
Do people really buy an item based on one review though?? I certainly wouldn't.
Do people really buy an item based on one review though?? I certainly wouldn't.
Thom is not just any reviewer like dozens bloggers you see nowadays only shouting for hits. Thom writes a book about the camera, so there is certain credibility what he's saying.
Per Inge Oestmoen
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There are many improvements as expected.
Still, there is one absolute showstopper with the Nikon D780: There is no possibility of adding a vertical grip with vertical shutter and controls for optimal use in the vertical position.
What is Nikon thinking?
For people who regularly shoot vertically, a vertical grip is an important addition to a camera.
Again, why is Nikon removing the option of a vertical grip?
Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway
michaeladawson
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Who is suggesting you do? This is one review, although certainly one that I would weight heavier than others. Read other reviews as well.
kbrkr
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I just don't understand the "GRIP" hysteria. If you prefer a larger camera, buy a D5/D6. Thom already states the battery life in the 780 is double that of the 750. People honestly can't take portrait or landscape photos with a camera without a Grip? It's unfortunate they keep missing those vertical shots with cameras without grips.
Flashlight
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The extra battery is a non-issue as a battery is exchanged in about ten seconds while I easily get around 1500 shots with one battery in a D750 if I shoot an event. While I always have spares with me I just exchange them when back home to be ready for the next day.
Some jobs require a lot of portraits and then a grip is very convenient. I personally do not like the big Dn cameras while they are optimized for a different kind of photography and are way too expensive. Removal of the grip option wouldn't be a deal braker for me in itself as I seldom use them but it seems a silly omission; what's the benefit for Nikon?
T O Shooter
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I grip everything. A nonsense suggestion to buy a D5 / D6 at about $7000 Canadian when for $100 I can buy a 3rd party grip for just about anything. Except a D780.
Has nothing to do with battery life for me. It's just a bonus to have an extra battery in the grip. Thom wants us to use his "click where I buy" button.
I prefer the extra heft of a battery gripped body. It provides better balance for long lenses. It IS also better in the portrait position. For me, it's just better.
No, what's unfortunate was that Nikon, in it's declining state, was stupid enough to leave the grip off. And if they hadn't been so greedy to the point of obscenity with the price of their grips causing people to look elsewhere for one, they'd still be selling enough grips to justify putting one on.
mais51
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I wonder that myself - why so expensive nearly 20 % of the cost of camera body when every one can make a copy less than 10% of the camera cost
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SushiEater
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Greed.
Why Nikon charges $150 for EN-EL18 then DSTE less than $40 and the battery is not castrated. IT only has 3 $3 cells and a piece of plastic. And En-EL15 is $50 or more while you can get then for $20 all day long from other manufacturers. And it only has 2 cells and a piece of plastic.Not to mention the chargers cost.
How about all those attachments for Wi-fi that could cost a $1K?
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T O Shooter
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When I bought my D850, a Nikon grip was $600 in Toronto. A Mcoplus grip off Ebay was $100.
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