David1961
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What would you accept as proof of my answers regarding my answers to your questions?
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Abandon "likes" a good of a bad idea?
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Graham Meale
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What a strange response. Obviously you or I can prove or disprove nothing. Just as if I were to claim that most people on these forums like scrambled egg.
Looks like you're missing your daily argy bargy with Sabrina.
David1961
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If people anywhere on the www can't post what they would accept as proof when they ask me question similar to "How do you know that?" then I see their question as a waste of my time and a childish attempt at trolling.
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TN Args
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It's disappointing when I see some denigrating, smart-alec put-down disguised as wit, and it quickly harvests 10+ likes. The anti-social, discourteous poster feels vindicated and encouraged to repeat ad nauseum, and those other posters who lack the intelligence to know better see it as something that everyone loves to read, so they start doing it too and the behaviour grows.
I do this too. It is IMHO useful.
It does tend to fall apart in brand-related discussions, though, when people stop giving likes on the basis of reason and do it on the basis of brand.
I do care, but I don't know which way I care the most. ;-)
KCook
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It started here with thumbs both up and down. Instead of "nicer", the result of the thumbs down was lots of bonfires. The mods quickly got rid of the thumbs down.
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Reddit gatekeeper... you ever went down that rabbit hole???
davidedric
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I would like to see "likes" attributed, as they are on other forums I participate in.
I would appreciate some members "likes" more than others.
I would appreciate some members "likes" more than others.
That way we might discover more of those with multiple personalities as well as those that vote for themselves
mamallama
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Abandon "likes" is a good idea. They have become useless and meaningless. You become suspicious when some posters get 5 likes in less than one minute after the post.
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threw the lens
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DPReview did once have Thumbs Up + Thumbs Down buttons. Or Like / Dislike buttons.
A certain contingent couldn't handle it.
Now we've got whining about having a Thumbs Up button all over again? Do we really have to go round in circles like this all the time?
DPReview has achieved a kind of parity with the common social media platforms of only having Like and not Dislike buttons. It is now the norm of the internet.
For people who still can't handle a Like button, I recommend they get off the internet before they get hurt or hurt somebody else, because it shows no sign of changing.
A certain contingent couldn't handle it.
Now we've got whining about having a Thumbs Up button all over again? Do we really have to go round in circles like this all the time?
DPReview has achieved a kind of parity with the common social media platforms of only having Like and not Dislike buttons. It is now the norm of the internet.
For people who still can't handle a Like button, I recommend they get off the internet before they get hurt or hurt somebody else, because it shows no sign of changing.
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I sometimes give a "Like" to somebody who's writing something technically correct but experiencing nonsensical opposition in a thread. Just to express that I can't be bothered to enter into the argument, but I want to let the poster know that somebody does actually get it and that the members who shout loudest don't speak for all the readers. If we didn't have the Thumbs Up, readers in future who weren't clued up on the issues could assume that the contrarianism of some posters represented right or orthodoxy, when it never did.
David1961
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Yes that can be true in some cases.
The flip side is that in many cases, someone can post something that is not correct and their friends/supporters/fans or whatever jump on and click the like button in support giving a false sense of accuracy for the information in the post.
And then you will have members with multiple accounts (typically to boost their vote in the various DPR Challenges) who might also use them to skew the like count on a post.
Hence why the like count has no credibility at all for me because regardless of the like count I can't determine how many members actually clicked the like button - unless the like count is 1 of course, and then it might have been the author of the post anyway
The flip side is that in many cases, someone can post something that is not correct and their friends/supporters/fans or whatever jump on and click the like button in support giving a false sense of accuracy for the information in the post.
And then you will have members with multiple accounts (typically to boost their vote in the various DPR Challenges) who might also use them to skew the like count on a post.
Hence why the like count has no credibility at all for me because regardless of the like count I can't determine how many members actually clicked the like button - unless the like count is 1 of course, and then it might have been the author of the post anyway
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David1961
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The way I see it, there is a very serious flaw with the current "Like" system.
Members can currently edit their posts to whatever they want to, even a total different meaning from the original, after members have "liked" the post.
Members should not be allowed to edit their posts after someone has "liked" it.
For example: someone might post an image and it receives say, 5 likes.
The OP could then edit their op with a different version of the original image and it is very possible some or all of the members who "liked" the original image might not like the replaced version at all, but the replaced version will have 5 likes attached to it.
Just another reason, in addition to those I posted earlier, why the like count has no credibility for me.
Members can currently edit their posts to whatever they want to, even a total different meaning from the original, after members have "liked" the post.
Members should not be allowed to edit their posts after someone has "liked" it.
For example: someone might post an image and it receives say, 5 likes.
The OP could then edit their op with a different version of the original image and it is very possible some or all of the members who "liked" the original image might not like the replaced version at all, but the replaced version will have 5 likes attached to it.
Just another reason, in addition to those I posted earlier, why the like count has no credibility for me.
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Generally, I take no notice of 'likes' i.e. the number of 'likes' does not determine whether or not I read a post.
Of course, if it one of my own posts that has received one or more 'likes' then I do take notice, and sit with a wry smile on my face and a warm glow inside ;-)
Separately, if the first post in a new thread is long, I will likely read it (if the subject line catches my attention) but I find more and more that I skip over long posts within a thread, including those continual 'reply with quote' posts, where two or more people are trying to outwit each other or are trying to blind everyone with their superior knowledge on a particular subject.
Of course, if it one of my own posts that has received one or more 'likes' then I do take notice, and sit with a wry smile on my face and a warm glow inside ;-)
Separately, if the first post in a new thread is long, I will likely read it (if the subject line catches my attention) but I find more and more that I skip over long posts within a thread, including those continual 'reply with quote' posts, where two or more people are trying to outwit each other or are trying to blind everyone with their superior knowledge on a particular subject.
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a serious photography site for grown ups?
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SonyOB
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I never get likes so just as well.
I would welcome "J'adore"- button.
And a "so what".
But it is just me.
People here make the longest discussions about reloadable AA batteries and camera straps. I am not one of you, really. I know it.
I would welcome "J'adore"- button.
And a "so what".
But it is just me.
People here make the longest discussions about reloadable AA batteries and camera straps. I am not one of you, really. I know it.
Rambow
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Much like facebook itself, the thumbs up/down is a useless gimmick typical for the visual culture that leads to oversimplification, the dumbing down of society and promotes low level culture.
Good ideas never were and never will be validated via a icon on a screen connnected to the www.
Mind you, i don't reject visual culture, just the dumb aspects of it. I like photography, i like memes.
Memes are representative for the visual culture associated with computers and the internet, they are oversimplified ideas, but ideas nonetheless. Many are quite smart in their design and philosophy.
By contrast, a thumbs up is what is says. By itself it contains no idea. It has a very relative value and only for the poster whose post received the thumbs up.
More importantly, they don't even represent votes, since the act of offering the thumbs up is completely voluntary and not necessary in the context of the discussion, meaning they don't add value nor do they take away value.
More than anything, they are symbols reprezenting emotional response in a virtual environment where traditional expressions of approval don't work because there is no human contact other than the words redacted using a keyboard.
Good ideas never were and never will be validated via a icon on a screen connnected to the www.
Mind you, i don't reject visual culture, just the dumb aspects of it. I like photography, i like memes.
Memes are representative for the visual culture associated with computers and the internet, they are oversimplified ideas, but ideas nonetheless. Many are quite smart in their design and philosophy.
By contrast, a thumbs up is what is says. By itself it contains no idea. It has a very relative value and only for the poster whose post received the thumbs up.
More importantly, they don't even represent votes, since the act of offering the thumbs up is completely voluntary and not necessary in the context of the discussion, meaning they don't add value nor do they take away value.
More than anything, they are symbols reprezenting emotional response in a virtual environment where traditional expressions of approval don't work because there is no human contact other than the words redacted using a keyboard.
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