I second that, very welcome addition.Thanks a lot for this compliment
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There are people, who say, Capture sharpening is a masterpiece of RT, though my main intention to implememt it, was to get rid of the AA blur of my old Nikon D700...I second that, very welcome addition.Thanks a lot for this compliment
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I think it is as well, excellent diffraction correction.
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Joe, I enjoyed reading your post regarding Raw Therapee.
I have attempted to grasp this software at different times (over an extended period of time) but seems like never did I have adequate time to review all the functions and get to where I was comfortable with using it.
I use Canon Cameras ( 20D, 50D, and 1DS MKIII ) and since I have enjoyed Photography for many years beginning back in the 1950's with both B/W and Color Darkrooms I am one that tries to get good images without using the Cameras like an automatic Nailing Machine. As a result, I expose in both RAW and JPG and process the RAW files using the Canon DPP and DPP4 with output to TIF 16 bit images.
I sometimes use the JPG's for emailing, etc -- but I actually need to consider exposures only using RAW.
My question for you is how do you think is the best method to actually learn the many functions offered in Raw Therapee. Today, I down loaded and installed the latest Windows 64 bit Version. I like to be completely familiar with any software that I use. This is probably inherited from being in Computer Systems, Programming, Management, and Consulting for close to 30 years before retirement.
My Regards, -- Vernon...
I have attempted to grasp this software at different times (over an extended period of time) but seems like never did I have adequate time to review all the functions and get to where I was comfortable with using it.
I use Canon Cameras ( 20D, 50D, and 1DS MKIII ) and since I have enjoyed Photography for many years beginning back in the 1950's with both B/W and Color Darkrooms I am one that tries to get good images without using the Cameras like an automatic Nailing Machine. As a result, I expose in both RAW and JPG and process the RAW files using the Canon DPP and DPP4 with output to TIF 16 bit images.
I sometimes use the JPG's for emailing, etc -- but I actually need to consider exposures only using RAW.
My question for you is how do you think is the best method to actually learn the many functions offered in Raw Therapee. Today, I down loaded and installed the latest Windows 64 bit Version. I like to be completely familiar with any software that I use. This is probably inherited from being in Computer Systems, Programming, Management, and Consulting for close to 30 years before retirement.
My Regards, -- Vernon...
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Well, I'd recommend starting with playing around with the settings, reading the documentation which can be found here http://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Main_Page
Also, there are some good youtube tutorials by this guy https://www.youtube.com/user/TheAndy800/videos on Rawtherapee, and if you have specific questions, go to https://discuss.pixls.us/c/software/rawtherapee for the most active forum of users of Rawtherapee.
Keep in mind that quick mastery of Rawtherapee might not occur, but with a little patience, you will be getting post processing results like found here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/patrickscphoto Most of my photos here were exclusively processed in Rawtherapee, with the exception of the panoramas and images that required extensive local adjustments, though for simple shadows and highlights, Rawtherapee has good tonal compression algorithms, such as Shadows/Highlights, and Dynamic Range compression.
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They say necessity is the mother of invention...There are people, who say, Capture sharpening is a masterpiece of RT, though my main intention to implement it, was to get rid of the AA blur of my old Nikon D700...I second that, very welcome addition.Thanks a lot for this compliment
Of course you are right and had the insight that since optical blurring is done in linear color (real photons) sharpening that tries to undo it should be as well, lest we want bulging highlight detail.
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Thanks Joe,
I did a quick peep at the first provided link which I believe will be exceedingly helpful.
Honestly, I don't seem to do well with YouTube videos primarily due to the usual small illustrated screens, however; I will definitely check these at your referenced link.
I have more time now since being retired and usually no daily commitments.
Many Thanks -- Vernon...
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That's OK, I didn't know your preferences, so I decided to give you multiple leads. Some people want to be walked through, and some can get good use out of the manual.
I've spent years planning and developing very workable directory structures, so *not* having a DAM is in my book RawTherapee's biggest plus!
Not using a sound directory structure is in my book a disaster waiting to happen...
And should I one day desire a tag searching dam thing, it's out there as said.
Mileage variations! :-D
-- Set your working and output color spaces in the Color Management section.
-- Start with the basics of exposure on the Exposure tab. Play with the sliders that are obvious to you. Try the Auto-Matched Tone Curve and make a decision quickly on whether to use it or not.
-- Do some RL Deconvolution sharpening on the Detail tab.
Export a .tif to your usual post-processing program.
As curiosity leads you, try other features from time to time, reading the section on the feature in the Rawpedia.
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Yeah, especially if I need to quickly process one raw, setting up the DAM import can be a PITA. Also, side chain .pp3 files I find much easier to keep track of than a .lrcat file, especially if I am switching computers a lot, using external hard drives with my work. Oh, and Rawtherapee can be easily run portably from external hard drive/usb flash, so there is that added flexibility. Also, Rawtherapee can be run through the command line, which makes it easy to use for processing raw video, in conjunction with a non-Adobe NLE.
Yeah, i's hard to find any negatives by RawTherapee, isn't it?
And the stuff the really knowledgeable team has put into RT will help you grow your post processing skills. You will not "outgrow" RT... ever.
And btw. if looking for performance and stability, go to Linux... you might be surprised.
Oh! And don't forget a donation! Just a little as a "Thank You".
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Vernon D Rainwater
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You will not "outgrow" RT... everYeah, i's hard to find any negatives by RawTherapee, isn't it?
And the stuff the really knowledgeable team has put into RT will help you grow your post processing skills. You will not "outgrow" RT... ever.
And btw. if looking for performance and stability, go to Linux... you might be surprised.
Oh! And don't forget a donation! Just a little as a "Thank You".
I had to chuckle when I read your above comment -- since I am currently trying to get into the details by studying the user guide per the link provided yesterday by Joe for me.
My current thoughts were that I probably won't live long enough to learn the details -- instead of considering if I will be able to outgrow Raw Therapee.
Perhaps all advanced software (during the learning stage) makes all of us feel somewhat like this ..... However, I usually am always too dumb to give up [Grin]
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I did not have that in mind while implementing Capture sharpening, but it turned out to work quite good for this cases as well
Though the most important part imho is the `Auto Radius` and the `auto iteration limitation` to allow using Capture Sharpening without having to fiddle much with the adjusters. Just enable it
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At first I disabled the auto radius and usually lowered it but have now started to have faith in it's ability set it for me. I leave iterations set to auto as well. Along with RL sharpening I now rarely use any other sharpening in post (Topaz Sharpen AI).I did not have that in mind while implementing Capture sharpening, but it turned out to work quite good for this cases as well
Though the most important part imho is the `Auto Radius` and the `auto iteration limitation` to allow using Capture Sharpening without having to fiddle much with the adjusters. Just enable it
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That's something I haven't been happy with when using RawTherapee. If you have a secret for getting it to work better, what is it?
Vernon D Rainwater
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As suggested, I went to the link: regarding: if you have specific questions, go to https://discuss.pixls.us/c/software/rawtherapee for the most active forum of users of Rawtherapee.
Perhaps it is something I am doing wrong but I have never experienced a site that evidently is hard to create an account. This normally should be a "simple" thing but (so far) I have not been able to create an account. Any suggestions would be helpful.
I am trying in RT to use the sharpen function and I have the view set to above 100% (as advised) and I can not see any change in the image regarding sharpening at any setting.
Edit to add: I finally was able to create an account, however; have not found how to create a thread with my inquiry for help regarding using Sharpening.
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There is a banner at the top that has a blue sign up option in pixls.
As far as sharpening goes, it seems to be work just fine when I view at 100%, have you made sure that the power button on the sharpening tool was toggled?
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I've been meaning to do an in depth tutorial based on all my experiences using Rawtherapee for semi-pro photo editing, but in the mean time, I usually start with this default profile that is a good starting base, that does some of the highlight rolloff, clarity enhancements through wavelets and low ISO noise reduction settings, so for a low ISO image, all I have to do is basic exposure tweaking, crop/rotate white balance and curves before exporting.
Of course, if the image is high ISO, then you will need to increase the noise reduction, and if the image is overly contrasty, then try using the Shadows/ Highlights, and dynamic range compression with high detail setting to get some good shadow lifting look. If the image is insanely high iso, then switch the demosiacing to LMMSE. Of course there is so much more, so I encourage experimenting with unfamiliar tools and reading the manual.
Anyway, here is a link to my default, and you can use set it as a default processing profile to load on new images.
default.pp3
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Vernon D Rainwater
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There is a banner at the top that has a blue sign up option in pixls.
As far as sharpening goes, it seems to be work just fine when I view at 100%, have you made sure that the power button on the sharpening tool was toggled?
Thanks Joe, I finally got all setup ok to create an account. I may have not been waiting long enough for the next response but I really don't know what was the issue. Anyway, finally the account is crested.
I will load up RT again and check to be sure I have the mentioned power button activated. I will check the web site tomorrow to find how to post my inquiry.
I am accustomed to the DpReview sites but of course different sites may of course be different.
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