Do you think Nikon will release another FW?

You can look at it several ways. Nikon has a superb Z system Z6/7/50. Do they need to make a new camera ( lots of R/D money) or have programmable upgrades to an existing system that will make current owners happy and have a good sales pitch for new buyers. Nikon can put their R/D monies into new lenses that the current Z owners will pay a premium price for without having to buy new cameras.
 
I go with the focus boxes turning green in AF-C as well. I would add more custom settings to be retained in U1 - U3 & the very last bit of AF performance wrung from the Sony sensors. I would also like to see more customisation available to the video button in particular.

After v3.00 that transforms my Z6, I wouldn't expect Nikon to add anything more than new lens compatibility during 2020.
being able to customise that rec button more would be HUGE! Forgot about that one. Definitely a plus.
I have customized the rec button to change the metering mode on FW 3.0 in my camera (in photo mode)
 
Apart from focus boxes turning green in AF-C mode, more settings retained in U1 - U3, I'd also like U1 - U3 to work with SnapBridge!!!

Not having contacts on the baseplate for a battery pack release & control dial WAS a blunder but could be got around using Bluetooth or rather clumsily, just wired to the remote release socket that would probably mean foregoing the extra dial.

Although v3.00 has improved autofocus tracking (tuning a3 may be needed), Nikon are still behind Sony here from what I've read & watched.
 
And what do you need from another FW? Realistically.
Support for CF Express?
Don't they already have CF Express support? If you mean that some CF Express cards don't appear to work properly in the Zs, perhaps it is the firmware in the cards themselves rather than a fault in the camera firmware.
 
Do you think Nikon will put some resources into releasing another firmware for the Zeds?
I hope so! I would love to have the red focus area turn green in AFC after acquiring focus. Would that be a possibility?
I'm not so sure I want that. In AF-C mode the focus is constantly shifting. In the Z7 you can frequently see the camera shift slightly out of focus as you follow a subject. This happens even if you are following a stationary subject. The camera then quickly snaps back into focus.

I really don't want red/green flickering square in my viewfinder.
 
Apart from focus boxes turning green in AF-C mode, more settings retained in U1 - U3, I'd also like U1 - U3 to work with SnapBridge!!!

Not having contacts on the baseplate for a battery pack release & control dial WAS a blunder but could be got around using Bluetooth or rather clumsily, just wired to the remote release socket that would probably mean foregoing the extra dial.

Although v3.00 has improved autofocus tracking (tuning a3 may be needed), Nikon are still behind Sony here from what I've read & watched.
What also seems a bit strange is that there are no 3rd party grips I am aware of at the present time. There was a 3rd party grip for the Df that plugged into one of the Df ports. I would have to imagine that there are more Z6/7 bodies out there than Df. So I'm somewhat surprised that none of the usual makers has introduced one yet.
 
Apart from focus boxes turning green in AF-C mode, more settings retained in U1 - U3, I'd also like U1 - U3 to work with SnapBridge!!!

Not having contacts on the baseplate for a battery pack release & control dial WAS a blunder but could be got around using Bluetooth or rather clumsily, just wired to the remote release socket that would probably mean foregoing the extra dial.

Although v3.00 has improved autofocus tracking (tuning a3 may be needed), Nikon are still behind Sony here from what I've read & watched.
I just finished 4 weeks of using a Sony A7R IV along my Nikon Z7. I photographed portrait sessions, more informal photography of people (street and “work style”), , architecture, industrial processes, and sill life.
With firmware update 3.0 a rough approximation is that the Z cameras are at most 5 to 10% less capable than the Sony.

In terms of ergonomics and controls the A7RIV is better but Sony has a long way to go to catch up with Nikon. With the EVF Sony has a very long way to go match the Z7. The A7RIV is the first of the A7 series to have a hand grip design that matches the Nikon experience. One thing I really hope the next Sony has is a way to see what the shutter-speed is without having to use the LCD or the EVF. I also applaud Sony adding a lock to exposire biasing control . Control layout, ergonomics, EVF and handgrip are important considerations because they are how you interact with the camera and the more you enjoy using a camera the more you want to get out and make photographs.

Please correct me if I am wrong but one area where Sony has a very clear advantage is being able to use the touch sensitive LCD to move the focus point while using the EVF.
On the difference between 45mp and 60mp:

As long as you remain in the “Lo” (ISO 50, 64, and 80 emulations) and between ISO 100-400 the image quality and dynamic range of the A7RIV is terrific. Above 400 I started to notice the electronic noise as well as actual subject detail, while to my taste the Z7 is good up to at least ISO 1600. This was not just in dark tones but in lower midtones increasing into the middle of the midtone range the higher the ISO is set. I tend not to use noise reduction software as this destroys fine detail.

i suspect it’s an image processing pipeline issue but even with the fastest best quality SDXC media read/write times with the A7RIV is a “contemplative” experience and the several seconds it took for the camera to go from a full frame view to a 100% magnification was frustrating. With the Z7 (and I assume the A7RIII) that is nearly immediate

Acuity;

IBIS works equally well with both.

With excellent lenses on both cameras you can see a bit more subject detail with the A7RIV.
I only tried the Sony pixel shift feature once or twice: To get the most out of it you need a static subject and camera, and consistent lighting. You also need Sony’s processing software. For my needs I much prefer Nikon’s use of Focus-shift technology as well.

A note on raw processing:

I use both Lightroom CC Classic and Capture One Pro 20. Both do an excellent job. Whether you prefer the results from one or the other is a matter of taste. Both programs have strong and weak points.

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Maybe, yes.

With FW 3.0, camera is now perfectly usable and with good AF and performance.

I prefer now to wait, and get a new firmware in 6 months, or 1 year, but with REAL benefits (like, better tracking, etc) and a few usability improvements beside new lenses support.
And the ability to save battery life.
 
I'm hammered every day by ads from Nikon on Facebook and they all say that Z is a system that gets better with time via firmware.
 
I just finished 4 weeks of using a Sony A7R IV along my Nikon Z7. I photographed portrait sessions, more informal photography of people (street and “work style”), , architecture, industrial processes, and sill life.
With firmware update 3.0 a rough approximation is that the Z cameras are at most 5 to 10% less capable than the Sony.
Interesting, that you feel the Z is pretty close to the A7RiV...are you talking about eye auto-focus?....listening to all the youtubers, one gets the impression that the A7x's are much better regarding eye auto-focus than the Z6/7.
 
I suspect without special knowledge that Nikon will 'let the dust settle' before the next MAJOR update.

You may see 3.1 or some such addressing more CFExpress support or additional lens profiles, but that will be IT until some major issue surfaces which needs addressing.

I see some 'wishlists' which are nice, but in some respects personal, while many users such as myself were quite satisfied with the new 3.0 issue....
 
I go with the focus boxes turning green in AF-C as well. I would add more custom settings to be retained in U1 - U3 & the very last bit of AF performance wrung from the Sony sensors. I would also like to see more customisation available to the video button in particular.

After v3.00 that transforms my Z6, I wouldn't expect Nikon to add anything more than new lens compatibility during 2020.
being able to customise that rec button more would be HUGE! Forgot about that one. Definitely a plus.
I have customized the rec button to change the metering mode on FW 3.0 in my camera (in photo mode)
So have I but the options are limited
 
Do you think Nikon will put some resources into releasing another firmware for the Zeds?
Probably, but I don't think there will be any more drastic changes. It might be an incremental update to the AF again, and maybe other minor corrections but I think the Z6 and Z7 are pretty stable cameras (and any other shortcomings that I can think of can't be fixed by FW updates).

The one update I would like to see (and maybe I missed something somewhere) but I'd like to be able to shoot the camera while it's plugged in and charging.
 
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Do you think Nikon will put some resources into releasing another firmware for the Zeds?
Probably, but I don't think there will be any more drastic changes. It might be an incremental update to the AF again, and maybe other minor corrections but I think the Z6 and Z7 are pretty stable cameras (and any other shortcomings that I can think of can't be fixed by FW updates).

The one update I would like to see (and maybe I missed something somewhere) but I'd like to be able to shoot the camera while it's plugged in and charging.
I'd like to see two things:

1. When in single point autofocus, the ability to use your finger on the track pad to position the focus point...seems like this would be easy unless there is some non-obvious reason why it isn't

2. Improving the eye-autofocus performance....especially in back-lit situations.

Otherwise, the Z6/7 is an awesome camera!!
 
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Do you think Nikon will put some resources into releasing another firmware for the Zeds?
Probably, but I don't think there will be any more drastic changes. It might be an incremental update to the AF again, and maybe other minor corrections but I think the Z6 and Z7 are pretty stable cameras (and any other shortcomings that I can think of can't be fixed by FW updates).

The one update I would like to see (and maybe I missed something somewhere) but I'd like to be able to shoot the camera while it's plugged in and charging.
I'd like to see two things:

1. When in single point autofocus, the ability to use your finger on the track pad to position the focus point...seems like this would be easy unless there is some non-obvious reason why it isn't
in live view you simply have to turn on that feature.
2. Improving the eye-autofocus performance....especially in back-lit situations.

Otherwise, the Z6/7 is an awesome camera!!
 
Do you think Nikon will put some resources into releasing another firmware for the Zeds?
I hope so! I would love to have the red focus area turn green in AFC after acquiring focus. Would that be a possibility?
I'm not so sure I want that. In AF-C mode the focus is constantly shifting. In the Z7 you can frequently see the camera shift slightly out of focus as you follow a subject. This happens even if you are following a stationary subject. The camera then quickly snaps back into focus.

I really don't want red/green flickering square in my viewfinder.
Agree. Looking at the constant micro adjustments to focus in AF-C, I don’t think we will ever get the green box.
 
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Do you think Nikon will put some resources into releasing another firmware for the Zeds?
Probably, but I don't think there will be any more drastic changes. It might be an incremental update to the AF again, and maybe other minor corrections but I think the Z6 and Z7 are pretty stable cameras (and any other shortcomings that I can think of can't be fixed by FW updates).

The one update I would like to see (and maybe I missed something somewhere) but I'd like to be able to shoot the camera while it's plugged in and charging.
I'd like to see two things:

1. When in single point autofocus, the ability to use your finger on the track pad to position the focus point...seems like this would be easy unless there is some non-obvious reason why it isn't
in live view you simply have to turn on that feature.
2. Improving the eye-autofocus performance....especially in back-lit situations.

Otherwise, the Z6/7 is an awesome camera!!
I am aware of "#1" in live view. I meant when looking through the viewfinder for doing portrait work.
 
Do you think Nikon will put some resources into releasing another firmware for the Zeds?
Probably, but I don't think there will be any more drastic changes. It might be an incremental update to the AF again, and maybe other minor corrections but I think the Z6 and Z7 are pretty stable cameras (and any other shortcomings that I can think of can't be fixed by FW updates).

The one update I would like to see (and maybe I missed something somewhere) but I'd like to be able to shoot the camera while it's plugged in and charging.
I'd like to see two things:

1. When in single point autofocus, the ability to use your finger on the track pad to position the focus point...seems like this would be easy unless there is some non-obvious reason why it isn't
in live view you simply have to turn on that feature.
2. Improving the eye-autofocus performance....especially in back-lit situations.

Otherwise, the Z6/7 is an awesome camera!!
I am aware of "#1" in live view. I meant when looking through the viewfinder for doing portrait work.
Okay. I agree with you about that. I would that too.
 
Do you think Nikon will put some resources into releasing another firmware for the Zeds?
I hope so! I would love to have the red focus area turn green in AFC after acquiring focus. Would that be a possibility?
I'm not so sure I want that. In AF-C mode the focus is constantly shifting. In the Z7 you can frequently see the camera shift slightly out of focus as you follow a subject. This happens even if you are following a stationary subject. The camera then quickly snaps back into focus.

I really don't want red/green flickering square in my viewfinder.
Ricci mentioned this in one of his vids - as someone who called for this in a future update, not sure if it's such a good idea after all.
 

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