Wrong date from Solmeta Geotagger Pro 2

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Hi,

I have a Solmeta Geotagger Pro 2 which I use on my Nikon D800. I’ve been delighted with it for over 5 years, using it about every other day on average, but on 30 July this year it reported the date as 14-Dec-99, with 141299 in the log filename (presumably 1999). After a couple of weeks, probably when it got past 31 December, it started reporting dates in April 39 (presumably 2039)! There is no option to adjust the date; only the format in which it is displayed. It still records location, altitude and heading as usual. I emailed Solmeta asking if they have an explanation or solution, but got no reply.

I’d like to know whether this is a fault in the software that other users have also experienced, or a sign that my unit is deteriorating and may fail before long. I’d be very sorry to lose the unit. In addition to geotagging my photos, it logs where I have walked, for display on Google Earth, and, more importantly, doubles as a wireless remote shutter release. I’m not aware of any model currently available that includes a remote release. The supposed date is incorporated into the filename of the log of the unit’s movements during the day, as well as being reported in the EXIF data of each photo (and, until I turned the option off, it would set the camera’s clock with great acccuacy, except when it is precisely 1024 weeks out!)

I raised this problem on the Accessories forum, and someone had the knowledge to point out that, at least initially, the GPS system broadcast the date only by weeks denominated from 0 to 1023. There was a roll-over in April 2019, when it switched from week 1023 to week 0, but this didn’t affect my Pro2 at the time. I find it hard to understand how my Solmeta could cope with the jump from 1023 to 0, but then go wrong a dozen or so weeks later. Yet it can hardly be coincidence that 14 December 1999 is exactly 1024 weeks before 30 July 2019!

Unfortunately my post on the Accessories forum didn’t raise any replies from Solmeta Geotagger Pro 2 users. If you have one, I’d be very grateful to know whether yours is reporting correct dates, has jumped eras in the same way as mine, or has reported incorrect dates in a different pattern.

With thanks in advance for any information,

Chris Newman
 
I think I have one laying around somewhere... If I can find it, and it still works, I will see if I have the same date issues.
 
I think some manufacturers added a fixed number of weeks to the ones provided by the GPS chip to postpone the effect of the rollover. Anyway only a firmware update will solve the problem, if the manufacturer does nothing you're smoked.

What you can maybe do is use software like ExifTool to correct the date when the images are on the computer.
 
I think I have one laying around somewhere... If I can find it, and it still works, I will see if I have the same date issues.
Thanks, I’ll be really grateful if you could.

Chris
 
I think some manufacturers added a fixed number of weeks to the ones provided by the GPS chip to postpone the effect of the rollover. Anyway only a firmware update will solve the problem, if the manufacturer does nothing you're smoked.
Thanks for that explanation of why the dates might not have gone wrong until after the rollover. It’s an encouraging suggestion that my Pro2 might be suffering from poor software rather than an operational failure, although of course it’s frustrating that Solmeta don’t offer a firmware update.
What you can maybe do is use software like ExifTool to correct the date when the images are on the computer.
Since I thought to isolate the camera’s clock from the Pro2, ViewNX 2, for example, shows the correct date and time under ‘File Info 2’ ‘Date Shot:’, but the erroneous Pro2 date under ‘Location Info’ ‘UTC:’. I don’t think this will be much of a problem, although perhaps I should make the effort to correct the early ones where these, and ‘File Info 1’ ‘Date Modified:’ are false. But even with these, the ‘Date Created:’ will usually be the day I shot the photo, and it’s pretty obvious that a date almost 20 years out is wrong. But I do find it a nuisance having to correct the date on the log files of where I’ve been.

With thanks, Chris
 
Bringing back this thread.

I have a Solmeta Geotagger N3 that I got in 2014 and decided to go crazy with a date of 5/28/2000 starting a few days after the 2020 New Year. Of course I was on my first big trip in ages.

I had the date/time on the camera set to use the GPS and noticed all my time stamps off.

Has anyone else see this issue with this unit? I'm a little disappointed but it has served me well for many years until the rubber around the cord started to flake off. It's now all held together with electrical tape.

I'm wonder if the frayed wiring is causing this but the GPS locations are still accurate, only the day/date and year are off.

Thanks,

-Pete
 
Bringing back this thread.

I have a Solmeta Geotagger N3 that I got in 2014 and decided to go crazy with a date of 5/28/2000 starting a few days after the 2020 New Year. Of course I was on my first big trip in ages.

I had the date/time on the camera set to use the GPS and noticed all my time stamps off.

Has anyone else see this issue with this unit? I'm a little disappointed but it has served me well for many years until the rubber around the cord started to flake off. It's now all held together with electrical tape.

I'm wonder if the frayed wiring is causing this but the GPS locations are still accurate, only the day/date and year are off.

Thanks,

-Pete
That is typical for the rollover. I use a Garmin GPS from 2008 that so far works as it should but I al;so use my phone to record a backup track, just in case the Garmin decides it's time to roll over on it's back. I use software on the computer to merge the GPS data with the images.
 
28 May 2000 is exactly 1024 weeks before 12 January 2020, so it seems pretty clear that the wrong dates you’re getting result from the limited bit depth of the digital encoding used by the GPS system, as suggested by BGD300V1 and robert1955 in response to my initial post in the Accessories forum last August (https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4418701#forum-post-63001733). But, as in my case, it seems strange that the jump to a wrong date didn’t follow immediately after the GPS rollover date, the night of April 6 to April 7, 2019.

Unfortunately I still haven’t heard from anyone else with a Solmeta Geotagger Pro 2, to find out whether they all went wrong at the same time, or did so at different times, or some are still giving the right date.

Chris
 
Thanks for the replies and education folks. As an old computer science major, I can understand the fundamental issue as described but it's a mystery to me why devices would rollover at different times.

I guess it has to do with when the baseline date is programmed for "birthday" of the unit.

I live in NYC and a few months ago the system that controls traffic lights had a similar rollover issue.

https://nypost.com/2019/04/10/nyc-wireless-network-down-due-to-y2k-like-software-bug/
 
Bringing back this thread.

I have a Solmeta Geotagger N3 that I got in 2014 and decided to go crazy with a date of 5/28/2000 starting a few days after the 2020 New Year. Of course I was on my first big trip in ages.

I had the date/time on the camera set to use the GPS and noticed all my time stamps off.

Has anyone else see this issue with this unit? I'm a little disappointed but it has served me well for many years until the rubber around the cord started to flake off. It's now all held together with electrical tape.

I'm wonder if the frayed wiring is causing this but the GPS locations are still accurate, only the day/date and year are off.

Thanks,

-Pete
Does it have the latest firmware?

https://www.solmeta.com/Download/index
 
Thanks for the link but I have the cheaper Solmeta N3, it's not firmware upgradable. I've been using the mirrorless Z6 since it was introduced and the D800e and Solmeta has been moved to backup duty.

I did discover during my trip last week however that the GPS coordinates from Snapbridge on my iPhone linked to the Z6 are wildly inaccurate compared to the Solmeta results on the D800e.

How this same iPhone GPS can give me decent driving directions back in the US but be half a mile off in the Mexican jungle is beyond me. Maybe I just need to get a dedicated junker Samsung for GPS use only.

It's just too bad I can't sync the time now since I mix the photos from both bodies together when processing. The manual date/time setting on the D800e will never match the GPS sync'ed Z6 now.
 
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Hi,

to day I've the same problem: my Solmeta Pro 2 display: 2000.06.28 and there are no way to change it.

eddy
 
to day I've the same problem: my Solmeta Pro 2 display: 2000.06.28 and there are no way to change it.
Thanks for telling me. Do I understand that yours was giving the correct date until recently? It seems strange how they jump to different dates at apparently random times!

Chris
 
Has anyone contacted Solmeta about the issue? I used to have the Pro 2 before I upgraded to the G-Max.

I emailed Solmeta once with a question and I seem to recall they replied promptly.
 
Has anyone contacted Solmeta about the issue? I used to have the Pro 2 before I upgraded to the G-Max.

I emailed Solmeta once with a question and I seem to recall they replied promptly.
I emailed Solmeta a couple of weeks after my Pro2 started giving wrong dates, but had no response.

I value my Pro2 because it combines GPS (with the enhancement of recording which way the camera was pointing) with a wireless remote shutter. I’m not aware of any other device that offers all this. I understand the G-Max can be used to operate the shutter remotely through a mobile phone. But my hands suffer badly from the cold (Raynaud's syndrome). I’ve had several sessions, for instance, standing for extended periods at the edge of a field watching fallow deer rutting during autumn evenings. I have my D800 on my Sigma 150-500mm lens supported on a tripod, watching through the lens, with my hands in my pockets trying to keep them warm, waiting for interesting action, when I press the Pro2’s remote shutter button. If I tried to do that with my phone, firstly I think the phone would “go to sleep”, and secondly I assume I’d need to take the phone out of my pocket, and switch my attention from the deer to the phone, to touch the relevant part of the phone's screen to operate the camera’s shutter, probably missing the vital moments!

Chris
 
Has anyone contacted Solmeta about the issue? I used to have the Pro 2 before I upgraded to the G-Max.

I emailed Solmeta once with a question and I seem to recall they replied promptly.
I emailed Solmeta a couple of weeks after my Pro2 started giving wrong dates, but had no response.

I value my Pro2 because it combines GPS (with the enhancement of recording which way the camera was pointing) with a wireless remote shutter. I’m not aware of any other device that offers all this. I understand the G-Max can be used to operate the shutter remotely through a mobile phone. But my hands suffer badly from the cold (Raynaud's syndrome). I’ve had several sessions, for instance, standing for extended periods at the edge of a field watching fallow deer rutting during autumn evenings. I have my D800 on my Sigma 150-500mm lens supported on a tripod, watching through the lens, with my hands in my pockets trying to keep them warm, waiting for interesting action, when I press the Pro2’s remote shutter button. If I tried to do that with my phone, firstly I think the phone would “go to sleep”, and secondly I assume I’d need to take the phone out of my pocket, and switch my attention from the deer to the phone, to touch the relevant part of the phone's screen to operate the camera’s shutter, probably missing the vital moments!

Chris
Solmeta now makes an actual handheld Bluetooth remote for the GMax. I picked one up recently. Even though I could use my phone as the remote, I prefer a dedicated device.

RC-1 Bluetooth Remote Control for GMAX
 
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Solmeta now makes an actual handheld Bluetooth remote for the GMax. I picked one up recently. Even though I could use my phone as the remote, I prefer a dedicated device.

RC-1 Bluetooth Remote Control for GMAX
Thanks for that excellent news. I had wished for one, and checked their website in the past, only to be disappointed. Another issue resolved if I want to move to a Z7!

Chris
 
Hi Chris,

I wrote to Solmeta and they replied me that it is a real problem with the GPS chip.

They offer the repair the chip for 50 US dollars (shipping costs at your expense) or buy a GMax with a 15% discount.
I will reply that I do not care because I left my D200 and D700 in the drawer to switch to Fuji XT for several years.
If you are interested I can send you a copy of their email with their shipping addresses.
Ciao

(sorry for translation)
 
Hi Chris,

I wrote to Solmeta and they replied me that it is a real problem with the GPS chip.

They offer the repair the chip for 50 US dollars (shipping costs at your expense) or buy a GMax with a 15% discount.
I will reply that I do not care because I left my D200 and D700 in the drawer to switch to Fuji XT for several years.
If you are interested I can send you a copy of their email with their shipping addresses.
Ciao

(sorry for translation)
Hi Eddy,

Thanks very much for that information. It's very helpful to hear that they've acknowledged a problem with the GPS chip. I’m glad Solmeta responded to you, unlike my first attempt. I would be grateful for a copy of their email to you.

Also, you sign off with “Ciao (sorry for translation)” (not that I had any problems understanding your post, thanks), but refer to the cost in dollars. It would be helpful to know whether you are based in Europe, North America or elsewhere. I live in the UK, bought my Pro2 from a German online retailer, and I think I had early email exchanges, gaining me an updated version of the manual, with Solmeta in China.

I think I’ll bumble on correcting the dates on my Pro2 log files for now, but if I move on to a Nikon Z7 (which needs a different cable to my D800), I’ll contact Solmeta again in the hope of getting a discount on a GMAX, now that they offer a wireless remote shutter control for it.

With thanks,

Chris
 
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Hi Chris,

I live in Italy.

I will send you the email received by Solmeta.

I hope that you can solve the problem.

Now I'm using Fuji XT and now my Solmeta Pro 2 is sleeping with my D700... (sometimes they wakeup...).

emilio
 

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