)lympus 12-45mm f/4 PRO lens $649

Ramyeah

Leading Member
Messages
500
Solutions
1
Reaction score
313
Location
IN
Saw some sample pictures on Robin's site taken with Em1.3 and 12-45/f4. Looks quite good. Am not that happy with the sample pictures at dpreview, owing to poor subject selection to judge the lens. Waiting for some proper reviews soon to know how good it is..
 
Saw some sample pictures on Robin's site taken with Em1.3 and 12-45/f4. Looks quite good. Am not that happy with the sample pictures at dpreview, owing to poor subject selection to judge the lens. Waiting for some proper reviews soon to know how good it is..
And the EPl10 - Christ. Why can't they just charge $89.95 or such to EPL9 owners to get the same feature set. If that's what it takes.
 
They should call this a semipro.

No focus clutch and no LF button.

No thank you.
 
Just noticed the typo in the title.. too late to correct :)
 
Saw some sample pictures on Robin's site taken with Em1.3 and 12-45/f4. Looks quite good. Am not that happy with the sample pictures at dpreview, owing to poor subject selection to judge the lens. Waiting for some proper reviews soon to know how good it is
I think (I would be wrong) that the optical quality (resolution) of the Olympus 12-45mm F4 Pro lens is about the level of the Olympus 12-50mm F3.5-6.3 EZ lens.
 
Last edited:
Lens is probably delightful, glad it is smaller rather than adding a focus clutch, price about right.

But for all that is good and holy - DPR, delete the sample gallery! Wow what an awful showing by the staff. Utterly worthless for evaluating anything and the most uninspired, unimaginative beyond amateur quality photos I could possibly imagine. If this is the garbage you are going to post for photos just don’t bother. Beyond pitiful and moving towards shameful.
 
I guess many will agree to what you said..

I just had a quick glance at dpr and the photos were quite unimpressive, giving the impression of very carelessly done.. so didn't even bother to have a second look.

I'm sure other reviewers would do a proper review, bringing out the capability of this lens. let's wait to see some outstanding images that this lens is capable of producing..
 
Last edited:
Saw some sample pictures on Robin's site taken with Em1.3 and 12-45/f4. Looks quite good. Am not that happy with the sample pictures at dpreview, owing to poor subject selection to judge the lens. Waiting for some proper reviews soon to know how good it is
I think (I would be wrong) that the optical quality (resolution) of the Olympus 12-45mm F4 Pro lens is about the level of the Olympus 12-50mm F3.5-6.3 EZ lens.
I can bet that it won't be.. The very old 12-50 is one of the poorest in terms of resolution and sharpness whereas 12-40 Pro and 12-100 Pro are top of the line in that regard. I would expect this new lens to be comparable in quality to those Pro lenses. I would not mind, if it be a tad bit less sharp, being optimized for compact size/weight..
 
Theoretical MTF charts are of course - theoretical. But as we don't have much else to go on right now it looks like if you were happy with the 12-100/4 performance (as many are) then you'll likely be similarly pleased with the 12-45/4 performance:



000106803.gif






000085683.gif




--
Ken W
See profile for equipment list
 
At first I was impressed by the low price and the nice small size, not so much by the charts, which show the 12-100 is superior to the 12-45, even if you compare 45mm to 100mm..

Looking at the dpr gallery all pictures showing forests don't look too good: check the 4th at 12mm.

Here at 25mm, not too sharp either: https://www.dpreview.com/sample-gal...mpus-12-45mm-f4-pro-sample-gallery/7300775303

At 37mm definitely soft: https://www.dpreview.com/sample-gal...mpus-12-45mm-f4-pro-sample-gallery/2770749829

All things considered, this looks like the new 12-50.

Peter
Theoretical MTF charts are of course - theoretical. But as we don't have much else to go on right now it looks like if you were happy with the 12-100/4 performance (as many are) then you'll likely be similarly pleased with the 12-45/4 performance:

000106803.gif


000085683.gif
 
At first I was impressed by the low price and the nice small size, not so much by the charts, which show the 12-100 is superior to the 12-45, even if you compare 45mm to 100mm..
I guess I'm not seeing the same thing you are in the charts. At the long end they look quite similar with the 12-45 actually holding performance better midway from the center. I'd have to wait for actual useful test or sample photos to draw a conclusion.
Looking at the dpr gallery all pictures showing forests don't look too good: check the 4th at 12mm.

Here at 25mm, not too sharp either: https://www.dpreview.com/sample-gal...mpus-12-45mm-f4-pro-sample-gallery/7300775303

At 37mm definitely soft: https://www.dpreview.com/sample-gal...mpus-12-45mm-f4-pro-sample-gallery/2770749829
No, don't look at the DPR gallery. It is an exercise in ineptitude by the photographer who appears to be a random web developer they sent out for the weekend with the lens. An out of focus shot of the photographer's feet would have been more useful than 90% of what is in that gallery.

That 37mm shot was shot at F/22. That's right - F/22 for crying out loud. Of course it is soft. At that aperture a piece of black card stock with a pinhole in it will do just as well. Not to mention it is shot at 1/2 second so if anything it is an IBIS test and not a lens test.

Ignore the gallery, everything in it is suspect. No information to be gathered there.

(But I agree that the few shots that seem like they probably should contain useful information do not look impressive to me).

Will wait for competent sample images before drawing any conclusions.

--
Ken W
See profile for equipment list
 
Last edited:
Saw some sample pictures on Robin's site taken with Em1.3 and 12-45/f4. Looks quite good. Am not that happy with the sample pictures at dpreview, owing to poor subject selection to judge the lens. Waiting for some proper reviews soon to know how good it is..
I was very interested in this lens. Now that the specs and some sample pictures are out, I'm going to wait and see. Wouldn't describe it as tiny. Small would be a better word. Not much smaller/lighter than the PanLeicia 12-60, which I own. If the Olympus can better it in IQ, especially with landscape, I still might be in. As you said, we need some proper reviews.
 
At first I was impressed by the low price and the nice small size, not so much by the charts, which show the 12-100 is superior to the 12-45, even if you compare 45mm to 100mm..
I guess I'm not seeing the same thing you are in the charts. At the long end they look quite similar with the 12-45 actually holding performance better midway from the center. I'd have to wait for actual useful test or sample photos to draw a conclusion.
I was looking at the 60l/mm graphs - they are better on the 12-100 even in the centre.
Looking at the dpr gallery all pictures showing forests don't look too good: check the 4th at 12mm.

Here at 25mm, not too sharp either: https://www.dpreview.com/sample-gal...mpus-12-45mm-f4-pro-sample-gallery/7300775303

At 37mm definitely soft: https://www.dpreview.com/sample-gal...mpus-12-45mm-f4-pro-sample-gallery/2770749829
No, don't look at the DPR gallery. It is an exercise in ineptitude by the photographer who appears to be a random web developer they sent out for the weekend with the lens. An out of focus shot of the photographer's feet would have been more useful than 90% of what is in that gallery.

That 37mm shot was shot at F/22. That's right - F/22 for crying out loud. Of course it is soft. At that aperture a piece of black card stock with a pinhole in it will do just as well. Not to mention it is shot at 1/2 second so if anything it is an IBIS test and not a lens test.
Thanks, I wasn't expecting somthing like this and didn't check. I can hardly believe it.

Peter
Ignore the gallery, everything in it is suspect. No information to be gathered there.

(But I agree that the few shots that seem like they probably should contain useful information do not look impressive to me).

Will wait for competent sample images before drawing any conclusions.
 
I was looking at the 60l/mm graphs - they are better on the 12-100 even in the centre.
Ah, I see that now. Looks like the 12-100 MTF higher in the center but then falls off a bit worse in the corner compared to the 12-45. As a landscape shooter I'd be most curious as to which has the nicer edges/corners at F/5.6. Looks like that might end up being a toss up. And the 12-100/4 is so compelling if I'd already have to carry another lens to take me out to 100 (which I do).
That 37mm shot was shot at F/22. That's right - F/22 for crying out loud. Of course it is soft. At that aperture a piece of black card stock with a pinhole in it will do just as well. Not to mention it is shot at 1/2 second so if anything it is an IBIS test and not a lens test.
Thanks, I wasn't expecting somthing like this and didn't check. I can hardly believe it.
Yeah it is definitely not something a sane person would expect!

(I wonder if they were really meaning to be testing the E-M1III IBIS with that shot but then based on EXIF it got lumped into the samples gallery).
 
At first I was impressed by the low price and the nice small size, not so much by the charts, which show the 12-100 is superior to the 12-45, even if you compare 45mm to 100mm..

Looking at the dpr gallery all pictures showing forests don't look too good: check the 4th at 12mm.

Here at 25mm, not too sharp either: https://www.dpreview.com/sample-gal...mpus-12-45mm-f4-pro-sample-gallery/7300775303

At 37mm definitely soft: https://www.dpreview.com/sample-gal...mpus-12-45mm-f4-pro-sample-gallery/2770749829

All things considered, this looks like the new 12-50.

Peter


Here’s the MTF for the 12-50:

b3e145cebe2b493db59a5661fb872924.jpg

It’s not even close. The sample gallery images are pretty bad, that’s all.
Theoretical MTF charts are of course - theoretical. But as we don't have much else to go on right now it looks like if you were happy with the 12-100/4 performance (as many are) then you'll likely be similarly pleased with the 12-45/4 performance:

000106803.gif


000085683.gif


--
Archer in Boulder
God loves the noise just as much as the signal.
 
F4 is much too slow for m4/3. It's a bit like an F8 zoom for the Nikon Zds.
Only if out of focus creamy bokey is what you are after. As "speed" go, f4 = f4 on any size sensor; i.e. an f4 lens on FF ain't any faster.
This zoom let in very little light, and that is what photography is about, as much photons as possible.
If you always shoot wide open at f2.8 or wider, then I agree this lens ain't for you, and maybe not even M43 for that matter. Not everyone live on the tin edge of depth of field, and having the equivalent DoF of f8 on FF at f4 is a clear advantage in many situations; arguably more often than not. Many of Leica best lenses are no faster either.
So no F4 'pro' for me.

Jozef.
As an all purpose travel lens, if it is sharp wide open this is actually a very nice compact zoom lens. I will likely buy this lens if it proves to be optically on par with the 12-40/2.8 @ f4.

--
Roger
 
Last edited:
F4 is much too slow for m4/3. It's a bit like an F8 zoom for the Nikon Zds.
Man if Nikon made quality, compact F/8 zooms for my Z7 I'd buy them in an instant!
This zoom let in very little light, and that is what photography is about, as much photons as possible.
That's why there is a shutter speed dial too!

Photography is also about making sure the photons from various parts of the scene and distances end up in the right place instead of just spraying indiscriminately across the sensor. That's why we have an aperture dial.

The miracle of exposure and photon control is using both those dials as appropriate. Give it a try some day!
 

Keyboard shortcuts

Back
Top