What feature do you want most from the X-T4?

Rod McD said:

Hi,

This thread is spectacular in its misplaced sense of timing. The announcement is tipped to be later this month. If that's true, then every last detail of the XT4 is well and truly locked in. The lead time for the development of a new model is between 12 and 24 months.... So most of the hardware features were locked in that long ago - some of them perhaps even as the XT3 was announced. And many of the FW features were locked in soon after. All that's left now is beta testing refinement, packaging and advertising, and most of that's already decided too..... The XT4 will be what it will be.

Just wait til the announcement - you'll soon see a dozen X-photographer reviews and they will have had a pre-prod camera for weeks.

Cheers, Rod

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I read all these comments as personal wish lists, not something that anyone might expect Fujifilm to adopt and introduce in the X-T4. As you pointed out, the window for all that closed ages ago, given typical design, testing, and production cycles. It’s all speculation, nothing more, and very typical forum fodder close to any introduction.

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The Fat Fish said:

Hi all,

The X-T4 will soon be here and I want to know what feature you want the most? I have included only options that are likely/not too far from reality. It's entirely possible we get all or most of these features so just pick your favourite.

- The Fat Fish

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I want none of those things..so I guess I'm sticking with my XT3

Jerry-astro said:

Rod McD said:

Hi,

This thread is spectacular in its misplaced sense of timing. The announcement is tipped to be later this month. If that's true, then every last detail of the XT4 is well and truly locked in. The lead time for the development of a new model is between 12 and 24 months.... So most of the hardware features were locked in that long ago - some of them perhaps even as the XT3 was announced. And many of the FW features were locked in soon after. All that's left now is beta testing refinement, packaging and advertising, and most of that's already decided too..... The XT4 will be what it will be.

Just wait til the announcement - you'll soon see a dozen X-photographer reviews and they will have had a pre-prod camera for weeks.

Cheers, Rod

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I read all these comments as personal wish lists, not something that anyone might expect Fujifilm to adopt and introduce in the X-T4. As you pointed out, the window for all that closed ages ago, given typical design, testing, and production cycles. It’s all speculation, nothing more, and very typical forum fodder close to any introduction.

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Or any day of the week. As soon as the X-T4 is formally announced the forums will be talking about what they want on the X-T5 :-D

Bayer

More accurate AF

IBIS

Retained D pad (i have swipe commands disabled due to always inadvertantly catching them)

Better options on auto iso for faster min speed.

No size increase (already nearly the size of an ff camera)

Yes I understand some of this isn't going to happen..

Improved DR

Improved AF

FULL gimbal support

Everything else will be nice to haves.

XT3 is good enough for me nothing lacking.

very happy

Jerry-astro said:

Rod McD said:

Hi,

This thread is spectacular in its misplaced sense of timing. The announcement is tipped to be later this month. If that's true, then every last detail of the XT4 is well and truly locked in. The lead time for the development of a new model is between 12 and 24 months.... So most of the hardware features were locked in that long ago - some of them perhaps even as the XT3 was announced. And many of the FW features were locked in soon after. All that's left now is beta testing refinement, packaging and advertising, and most of that's already decided too..... The XT4 will be what it will be.

Just wait til the announcement - you'll soon see a dozen X-photographer reviews and they will have had a pre-prod camera for weeks.

Cheers, Rod

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I read all these comments as personal wish lists, not something that anyone might expect Fujifilm to adopt and introduce in the X-T4. As you pointed out, the window for all that closed ages ago, given typical design, testing, and production cycles. It’s all speculation, nothing more, and very typical forum fodder close to any introduction.

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It was intended as a personal wish list, nothing more. There's a good chance most of these features will make it to the X-T4 so it's not a serious topic for debate, just a light-hearted "I want X or Y the most".

The Fat Fish said:

Hi all,

The X-T4 will soon be here and I want to know what feature you want the most? I have included only options that are likely/not too far from reality. It's entirely possible we get all or most of these features so just pick your favourite.

- The Fat Fish

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One option I forgot to add was ISO 100 as the base ISO.

Im going to go with IBIS and better batterylife.

Also a better grip.... or just get me an XH2

6k seems so overkill, considering the resources that 4k already consumes and its still underutilized. I dont think its realistic to have everyone update their computers to adapt to 6k.

A real optical finder.

Auto Focus as good as top Nikon and Sony gear.

Batteries that last for 2,000 images and work well in 40 below zero cold.

Honest ISO down to 25, or maybe 3 as we had with Kodak Tech Pan film with the same type of sharpness.

Could the evidence be pointing more towards an XH-2 rather than an XT camera?

Has anyone suggested a candidate for a new sensor?

Not a fan of touchscreen.

Eyeteeth said:

Could the evidence be pointing more towards an XH-2 rather than an XT camera?

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That's the big question. Will Fuji keep both models? I much prefer the design/size of the X-T3 but I know the X-H2 has it's fans. If the X-T3 had IBIS, I think there'd be a lot less X-H2 buyers.

I don't see the features I want:

-1 Single button configurable to provide flashing highlight warning

-2 Live joystick so I can track the subject myself so I can adjust my composition when my subject turns. I want to be able to properly place my subject in the frame providing white space in the direction it's facing and also focus on the eye or head. Animal eye AF would give me this. I'll take either.

-3 Configuration copy to and from X-T3 for all settings that are compatible

Morris

The Fat Fish said:

The Fat Fish said:

Hi all,

The X-T4 will soon be here and I want to know what feature you want the most? I have included only options that are likely/not too far from reality. It's entirely possible we get all or most of these features so just pick your favourite.

- The Fat Fish

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One option I forgot to add was ISO 100 as the base ISO.

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Wouldn't that require a yet to be announced sensor?

Birdie

The Fat Fish said:

Eyeteeth said:

Could the evidence be pointing more towards an XH-2 rather than an XT camera?

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That's the big question. Will Fuji keep both models? I much prefer the design/size of the X-T3 but I know the X-H2 has it's fans. If the X-T3 had IBIS, I think there'd be a lot less X-H2 buyers.

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Indeed, that and the fact that the XH line is due an update whereas the XT would be sooner than expected - I doubt the XT-3 will stop selling for some time. Fujifilm declared the XH line to be their 'flagship' range, I don't see that changing after one iteration; I think they intend to keep both lines.

If the XH-2 was a sports/action/wildlife (markets still dominated by Canon and Nikon DSLR's) speed monster with a bottomless buffer and supported by some big new glass it might it make a serious contender for professionals not seeking to move to mirrorless because it's smaller but because it's better for what they do?

I've read and seen some talk along these lines and given the Olympics this year in Japan it seems like a strong possibility; provided they want to break into that market.

If (whatever it's called) turns out to be the APSC child of the GFX100 I'd be very impressed, not that I'd have much need for it myself.

nostatic said:

Jerry-astro said:

Rod McD said:

Hi,

This thread is spectacular in its misplaced sense of timing. The announcement is tipped to be later this month. If that's true, then every last detail of the XT4 is well and truly locked in. The lead time for the development of a new model is between 12 and 24 months.... So most of the hardware features were locked in that long ago - some of them perhaps even as the XT3 was announced. And many of the FW features were locked in soon after. All that's left now is beta testing refinement, packaging and advertising, and most of that's already decided too..... The XT4 will be what it will be.

Just wait til the announcement - you'll soon see a dozen X-photographer reviews and they will have had a pre-prod camera for weeks.

Cheers, Rod

Click to expand...

I read all these comments as personal wish lists, not something that anyone might expect Fujifilm to adopt and introduce in the X-T4. As you pointed out, the window for all that closed ages ago, given typical design, testing, and production cycles. It’s all speculation, nothing more, and very typical forum fodder close to any introduction.

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Or any day of the week. As soon as the X-T4 is formally announced the forums will be talking about what they want on the X-T5 :-D

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Or the X-H2

Birdie

The Fat Fish said:

Eyeteeth said:

Could the evidence be pointing more towards an XH-2 rather than an XT camera?

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That's the big question. Will Fuji keep both models? I much prefer the design/size of the X-T3 but I know the X-H2 has it's fans. If the X-T3 had IBIS, I think there'd be a lot less X-H2 buyers.

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Depends on what type IBIS the X-T4 will have, won't it? Would you be happy with a 3-axis IBIS in the X-T4? In a body almost the size and weight of the X-H1? With the X-T3 sensor?

We'all see, won't we

Birdie

I think we can assume at least as good processing (AF, video...) speed as the X-T3.

More interesting, there is no reason it can't have the same IBIS as X-H1:
The argument over body size just doesn't hold water, as the X-H1 is in fact not bigger around the sensor than the X-T3. It's the grip and EVF sticking out more that makes it bigger, along with a bit thicker chassis construction. X-T3 not having IBIS was never about size, it was about making it 1499$ and not immediately kill X-H1 sales.

So those are the obvious ones. What I'd like to see is:

- The grip and soft shutter mechanism of the X-H1

- Improved weather sealing and sturdiness. That means a slightly heavier frame, and more redundant weather seals in sequence for each point of entry. Second hand Pentax K-1 will keep tempting a switch for my nature photography until Fuji catches up here. X-H1 is good, but not quite there.

- 120 Hz video with audio, saved natively as 120 Hz file instead of the silly automatic conversion to slow-motion with discarded audio.

- Latest WiFi and Bluetooth standards, not two generations old ones like camera companies usually do. That means WiFi 6 (802.11ax) and Bluetooth 5. Every modern smartphone includes this, even my stationary computer has it; this is not difficult. This would increase the range for remote control, and transfer speed to devices. There's no reason RAW files can't be seamlessly and wirelessly transferred to a computer or iPad these days. Capture mode in Capture One could also be done wirelessly, just not quite as fast as wired.

That has the same size as the X-T2 and X-T3