A6600 Is a Great Wildlife Shooter's APS-C Rig

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I purchased my A6600 for the $1,198 price, bundled with a Sony 64GB SD card and a Billingham medium sized camera bag.

I really like the grip - very solid, large, well fit to my hand...it will help when attached to larger lenses. The build quality is more solid than my A6300, and general weather sealing efforts seem to be stepped up over my previous A6300 body. I was already very comfortable with A6xxx ergonomics and preferred them to my previous DSLRs - but the larger grip has improved overall ergonomics of the body while keeping the form factor of the A6xxx series that I like.

Battery life is stellar - in the world of mirrorless cameras, it's in a league of its own - DSLR territory for sure. While the full-frame bodies share the same battery, the APS-C body gets the longest CIPA rating in the mirrorless world at 810. I shoot a lot of wildlife and birding, and usually far exceed any Cipa ratings due to very little image reviewing and lots of burst shooting...my first few shoots with this camera have shown that the battery life will exceed 3,000 frames in heavy use. On my first day of wildlife shooting, I took 1,320 frames total on the A6600, and battery remaining at the end of the day was 75%.

Customizations of the menus and buttons is also excellent. With 4 direct 'C' custom buttons on the body, programmable 4-way pad buttons, and AE/AF button, 9 direct access controls can be programmed to the body along with the two dials. The Fn menu continues from past bodies, adding 12 more quick-access custom settings to be added without going into the main menu, and the My Menu has been added to the main menu as well, allowing two pages (30 items) of frequently used settings to be put in any preferred order so oft-used controls that don't fit or can't be put in Fn can be quickly accessed without going through the extensive menu pages.

Focus tracking is the big advertising point of these new bodies - as someone who shoots extensive wildlife, bird, and bird-in-flight (BIF) photography with e-mount bodies for many years now, I have never previously considered the A6xxx bodies' tracking modes to be usable. While these cameras have always been quite good for BIF shooting, it was generally using the wide focus area and AF-C focus mode, and just letting the continuous focus acquire and try to stay with the subject most obvious in the frame. Hit rate was always good - but there was no tracking, so a different subject might be picked up halfway through following a subject, or the subject could be lost if passing behind a tree or obstruction as you panned. The new Tracking AF system so far seems to live up to the hype, in being able to lock-on to a subject and stick with it while panning, and even stay with or return to it if partially obstructed. Unlike the prior Lock-on AF mode in past bodies, which couldn't reliably stick with any form of fast motion, the A6600's tracking focus is been able to stay with a bird closing head-on to the camera at 20-25MPH, even when moving side to side as it approaches.

My personal preference so far has been to use the Tracking AF mode in a way very similar to my A6300 - I use AF-C focus mode, with the Focus area set to Tracking - Wide. Initially, the acquisition of a target works the same as with my previous camera - the 'dancing dots' of active focus points cluster over the initial subject that the camera has found...but where previously I just let AF-C and those focus dots try to stay with the subject, now with Tracking engaged, the 'dancing dots' convert to a tracking rectangle around the subject, and that box stays with the subject as long as you keep focus engaged. For BIF work, it made an already very good camera system just that much better, and easier, and more reliable.

For high ISO shooting, I feel there's a roughly 1/2 stop improvement over the A6300 - which was already pretty good. While I was comfortable up to ISO 6,400 for JPG output and most uses, I find myself comfortable up to 8,000 to 10,000 on the A6600 - with a good exposure, ISO 12,800 can render surprisingly clean. Happily, the camera keeps the MFNR (Multi-frame noise reduction) ISO mode, which is an excellent tool for shooting handheld low light for scenics, landscapes, architecture, and slow movement scenes. Also useful in nighttime scenics handheld is the DRO/HDR's HDR option - also using image-stacking in camera to reduce noise but also in exposing shadows, mids, and highlights separately and blending. Both modes allow going up to 2 stops of ISO higher than whatever your main comfort levels are.

In body stabilization so far seems to work seamlessly with in-lens stabilization, and hand-holding the 200-600mm lens at 600mm has not been difficult at all. I've only had the chance to try a few tests with unstabilized lenses, and the IBIS definitely improved hand-holdability by at least 2 stops - maybe more...I need to try some actual shoots to really determine how much more.

Having MR settings on the dial, which I had become accustomed to on the A6300, was a big selling point for me over the A6400, which lost the separate MR1 and MR2 positions on the dial. I use these when out shooting wildlife and birds exclusively, with MR1 set up for still/non-flying wildlife and MR2 set up for BIF shooting. Being able to turn the dial one click and be ready to shoot with a whole different bank of settings is priceless for me...and makes fast changes in the field simple.

I haven't had any of the delay issues commented on in the main Dpreview review - which likely has to do with how I shoot and familiarity with these bodies for many years. As I shoot exclusively with the EVF, I do not encounter issues of delayed reaction switching between EVF and LCD. I turn off the touch-screen of my camera and do not use it, so I don't have any delay issues with that. I shoot still exclusively, and no video - so I do not need to be concerned over any switching delays between those two modes...I have no worries of the inability to switch between video/stills while buffer is clearing. That doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with the review on this site - all are fair observations for that reviewer - but when reading a review, one needs to take into consideration their own needs and whether any of the likes or dislikes will be relevant to their own use. For me, looking at the 'likes' in Dpreview's review - 'good video quality', 'headphone and mic sockets', '180 degree screen' all have no relevance to me...so none of those things would be on my own list of plusses. Similarly, going down their 'dislikes' list, 'ergonomics' is a personal thing and I very much like and prefer the A6xxx body ergo, 'lengthy menu' I disagree with as I don't find it difficult at all, especially with MyMenu customization, 'long buffer clear' isn't a concern as I've never been limited in shooting due to buffer as I don't tend to shoot dozens of frames consecutively for seconds at a time, 'cannot switch to video or change burst mode while buffer clears' again won't be something I will ever encounter, 'buttons and controls cramped etc' I disagree with as I've always found them to be very comfortable and easy to access on my 3 A6xxx bodies, 'no in-camera RAW' is a feature I will never use, 'bluetooth can't speed up wi-fi image transfer' is not a feature I will ever use, 'jello in video' not a concern as I do not shoot video, and 'touchscreen behavior' is not relevant to me as I do not use it. I also do not use built-in flash, so that was not a loss for me...nor was the loss of Sweep Panorama which I didn't use.

Any of those things may be much more impactful for another user - which is why we shouldn't be so dismissive or critical of a review that doesn't praise everything we love on a new camera. Just go through the list of plusses and minuses, add any of your own, eliminate any from either column that won't apply to you, and see whether you have more plusses or minuses remaining!

I consider the A6600 to be an excellent evolution of the A6xxx series, and especially a camera tuned directly for action, sports, or wildlife photographers - who can appreciate the battery life, bigger grip, extensive customization, MR settings on the dial, and market-leading continuous AF and tracking AF system.
 
As always a thorough and fair review based on your needs and familiarity with the tool. No more-no less and no one can imply any emotional or commercial influences or brand loyalty.
 
I feel your review should be linked to the official DP review with label "here is another perspective" - probably at the very beginning. Sure people (including me) expected more improvements in the A6600 but rating the Sony behind a camera that has no View Finder, no IBIS, and that does many things right while it does not excel anywhere (you know what I am referring to) was questionable to say the least.
 
Thanks for the useful info. I posted a question in your latest wetlands thread re your experience with the A6600, but you have answered it fully here!
 
I purchased my A6600 for the $1,198 price, bundled with a Sony 64GB SD card and a Billingham medium sized camera bag.

I really like the grip - very solid, large, well fit to my hand...it will help when attached to larger lenses. The build quality is more solid than my A6300, and general weather sealing efforts seem to be stepped up over my previous A6300 body. I was already very comfortable with A6xxx ergonomics and preferred them to my previous DSLRs - but the larger grip has improved overall ergonomics of the body while keeping the form factor of the A6xxx series that I like.

Battery life is stellar - in the world of mirrorless cameras, it's in a league of its own - DSLR territory for sure. While the full-frame bodies share the same battery, the APS-C body gets the longest CIPA rating in the mirrorless world at 810. I shoot a lot of wildlife and birding, and usually far exceed any Cipa ratings due to very little image reviewing and lots of burst shooting...my first few shoots with this camera have shown that the battery life will exceed 3,000 frames in heavy use. On my first day of wildlife shooting, I took 1,320 frames total on the A6600, and battery remaining at the end of the day was 75%.

Customizations of the menus and buttons is also excellent. With 4 direct 'C' custom buttons on the body, programmable 4-way pad buttons, and AE/AF button, 9 direct access controls can be programmed to the body along with the two dials. The Fn menu continues from past bodies, adding 12 more quick-access custom settings to be added without going into the main menu, and the My Menu has been added to the main menu as well, allowing two pages (30 items) of frequently used settings to be put in any preferred order so oft-used controls that don't fit or can't be put in Fn can be quickly accessed without going through the extensive menu pages.

Focus tracking is the big advertising point of these new bodies - as someone who shoots extensive wildlife, bird, and bird-in-flight (BIF) photography with e-mount bodies for many years now, I have never previously considered the A6xxx bodies' tracking modes to be usable. While these cameras have always been quite good for BIF shooting, it was generally using the wide focus area and AF-C focus mode, and just letting the continuous focus acquire and try to stay with the subject most obvious in the frame. Hit rate was always good - but there was no tracking, so a different subject might be picked up halfway through following a subject, or the subject could be lost if passing behind a tree or obstruction as you panned. The new Tracking AF system so far seems to live up to the hype, in being able to lock-on to a subject and stick with it while panning, and even stay with or return to it if partially obstructed. Unlike the prior Lock-on AF mode in past bodies, which couldn't reliably stick with any form of fast motion, the A6600's tracking focus is been able to stay with a bird closing head-on to the camera at 20-25MPH, even when moving side to side as it approaches.

My personal preference so far has been to use the Tracking AF mode in a way very similar to my A6300 - I use AF-C focus mode, with the Focus area set to Tracking - Wide. Initially, the acquisition of a target works the same as with my previous camera - the 'dancing dots' of active focus points cluster over the initial subject that the camera has found...but where previously I just let AF-C and those focus dots try to stay with the subject, now with Tracking engaged, the 'dancing dots' convert to a tracking rectangle around the subject, and that box stays with the subject as long as you keep focus engaged. For BIF work, it made an already very good camera system just that much better, and easier, and more reliable.

For high ISO shooting, I feel there's a roughly 1/2 stop improvement over the A6300 - which was already pretty good. While I was comfortable up to ISO 6,400 for JPG output and most uses, I find myself comfortable up to 8,000 to 10,000 on the A6600 - with a good exposure, ISO 12,800 can render surprisingly clean. Happily, the camera keeps the MFNR (Multi-frame noise reduction) ISO mode, which is an excellent tool for shooting handheld low light for scenics, landscapes, architecture, and slow movement scenes. Also useful in nighttime scenics handheld is the DRO/HDR's HDR option - also using image-stacking in camera to reduce noise but also in exposing shadows, mids, and highlights separately and blending. Both modes allow going up to 2 stops of ISO higher than whatever your main comfort levels are.

In body stabilization so far seems to work seamlessly with in-lens stabilization, and hand-holding the 200-600mm lens at 600mm has not been difficult at all. I've only had the chance to try a few tests with unstabilized lenses, and the IBIS definitely improved hand-holdability by at least 2 stops - maybe more...I need to try some actual shoots to really determine how much more.

Having MR settings on the dial, which I had become accustomed to on the A6300, was a big selling point for me over the A6400, which lost the separate MR1 and MR2 positions on the dial. I use these when out shooting wildlife and birds exclusively, with MR1 set up for still/non-flying wildlife and MR2 set up for BIF shooting. Being able to turn the dial one click and be ready to shoot with a whole different bank of settings is priceless for me...and makes fast changes in the field simple.

I haven't had any of the delay issues commented on in the main Dpreview review - which likely has to do with how I shoot and familiarity with these bodies for many years. As I shoot exclusively with the EVF, I do not encounter issues of delayed reaction switching between EVF and LCD. I turn off the touch-screen of my camera and do not use it, so I don't have any delay issues with that. I shoot still exclusively, and no video - so I do not need to be concerned over any switching delays between those two modes...I have no worries of the inability to switch between video/stills while buffer is clearing. That doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with the review on this site - all are fair observations for that reviewer - but when reading a review, one needs to take into consideration their own needs and whether any of the likes or dislikes will be relevant to their own use. For me, looking at the 'likes' in Dpreview's review - 'good video quality', 'headphone and mic sockets', '180 degree screen' all have no relevance to me...so none of those things would be on my own list of plusses. Similarly, going down their 'dislikes' list, 'ergonomics' is a personal thing and I very much like and prefer the A6xxx body ergo, 'lengthy menu' I disagree with as I don't find it difficult at all, especially with MyMenu customization, 'long buffer clear' isn't a concern as I've never been limited in shooting due to buffer as I don't tend to shoot dozens of frames consecutively for seconds at a time, 'cannot switch to video or change burst mode while buffer clears' again won't be something I will ever encounter, 'buttons and controls cramped etc' I disagree with as I've always found them to be very comfortable and easy to access on my 3 A6xxx bodies, 'no in-camera RAW' is a feature I will never use, 'bluetooth can't speed up wi-fi image transfer' is not a feature I will ever use, 'jello in video' not a concern as I do not shoot video, and 'touchscreen behavior' is not relevant to me as I do not use it. I also do not use built-in flash, so that was not a loss for me...nor was the loss of Sweep Panorama which I didn't use.

Any of those things may be much more impactful for another user - which is why we shouldn't be so dismissive or critical of a review that doesn't praise everything we love on a new camera. Just go through the list of plusses and minuses, add any of your own, eliminate any from either column that won't apply to you, and see whether you have more plusses or minuses remaining!

I consider the A6600 to be an excellent evolution of the A6xxx series, and especially a camera tuned directly for action, sports, or wildlife photographers - who can appreciate the battery life, bigger grip, extensive customization, MR settings on the dial, and market-leading continuous AF and tracking AF system.
Very nice review, thank you. One peculiar thing I found with a6400 is that "tracking" modes are mutually exclusive with Animal Eye AF. When taking shots of my dog I find it useful to use Animal Eye AF, but then I have to use the a6300-like mode: wide area AF-C. I wonder if the same limitation exists on a6600.
 
Thanks for the super-great writeup! Good to know someday when ready to let go of the a6300.

Gerald
 
Nice write-up Justin. I agree on AF tracking for a6500 - its just not reliable. Glad the a6600 is much better!
 
Very nice review, thank you. One peculiar thing I found with a6400 is that "tracking" modes are mutually exclusive with Animal Eye AF. When taking shots of my dog I find it useful to use Animal Eye AF, but then I have to use the a6300-like mode: wide area AF-C. I wonder if the same limitation exists on a6600.
Indeed it's the same with the A6600. I haven't yet tried the Animal Eye AF mode - that may be part of future experimentation...I'll have to figure out an easy way to remember to leave tracking and engage Animal Eye AF - maybe saving it to a new MR setting in the virtual MRs, and assigning it to a Custom Recall Hold. So far though, the tracking mode has been impressive and working well.
 
Thank you for the great review, zackiedawg.

I've recently purchased a6600 with 16-55mm lens and it's a terrific combo. For a long time I was very skeptical about Sony, not anymore. There are some many features in it that you wan't find in any other camera brand. I have Fuji X-T3 with a bunch of lenses but I was so attracted by Sony AF and eventually got it. Since then I have no regrets.
 
Nice Read Justin.

I read the IBIS in the 6500 was a real let down. Has it been improved in the 6600?

I forget is the Tamron 200-600 native?

You sure were one of the Pioneers with the apsc a6xxx series.

I remember you using the 210mm with a diopter at one stage which actually produced some awesome pics :-)
 
DigiPainter wrote:
I read the IBIS in the 6500 was a real let down. Has it been improved in the 6600?

Consensus seems to be that the IBIS has nót improved over the A6500. But the only "tests" on the IBIS i can find are from owners / reviewers / vloggers using it in video. Although it should have some (limited) effect there, I believe the IBIS of the A6600 is primarily useful while shooting still images, being most effective at longer focal length, but less so at shorter / wider focal lengths.

So in short; don't trust the video reviews of the A6600 IBIS when judging its effectiveness in photo-mode :-P

Also: many people reviewing IBIS think it allows shooting at shutter speeds of rated number of f-stops below 1/focal length, but this is not the case.

With 24Mpix APS-C ánd a good sharp lens you should probably calculate from the double focal length. So the Sigma 56mm with 2 effective IBIS-stops could be good at (2^2) / (2*56) = 1/30 sec handheld. And 350mm with 4 effective IBIS-stops might work well at (2^4) / (2*350) = 1/45 sec.

My 2 cents. Does this help?
 
Nice Read Justin.
I read the IBIS in the 6500 was a real let down. Has it been improved in the 6600?
I never shot the A6500, so I don't have any experience with its stabilization. I have only briefly tested the camera's stabilization by itself - and it seemed to work pretty well - most of the time I'm shooting with lenses that have stabilization too. I can sort of compare the same lens on the A6300 and A6600, and I sense I'm getting more stabilization effect noticeable at long focal lengths around 400mm.
I forget is the Tamron 200-600 native?
The lens I picked up most recently is the Sony FE200-600mm which is a native Sony e-mount lens. None of the big Tamrons are native e-mount, so they need adapters from either Sony A-mount, or Canon mount - I do have a Tamron 150-600mm lens for A-mount which I've used on the A6300, but I don't foresee using it much anymore since I now have the FE100-400mm and 200-600mm in native mount.
You sure were one of the Pioneers with the apsc a6xxx series.
I remember you using the 210mm with a diopter at one stage which actually produced some awesome pics :-)
Thank you. Those were the early days when we had no long lens solutions and the E-mount was mostly a second body for me - I really wanted some way to get more reach and those early experimentations with the DH1758 1.7x extenders turned out to be pretty usable, at least back with the NEX-5 sensor!

As the E-mount bodies evolved, I started to use them more and more - and once they started pushing up to 300mm, then 400mm, native reach, I found myself barely using my DSLR anymore - and decided to go full on into E-mount.
 
Thank you. Those were the early days when we had no long lens solutions and the E-mount was mostly a second body for me - I really wanted some way to get more reach and those early experimentations with the DH1758 1.7x extenders turned out to be pretty usable, at least back with the NEX-5 sensor!

As the E-mount bodies evolved, I started to use them more and more - and once they started pushing up to 300mm, then 400mm, native reach, I found myself barely using my DSLR anymore - and decided to go full on into E-mount.
Im still using the A6000 haha. So guys it has no IBIS, so I may notice ANY Ibis.

But in reality, is the panasonic the only really amazing IBIS?

I dont know what competes with the sony.

Geese I wish I could afford that new lens :-).
 
I purchased my A6600 for the $1,198 price, bundled with a Sony 64GB SD card and a Billingham medium sized camera bag.

I really like the grip - very solid, large, well fit to my hand...it will help when attached to larger lenses. The build quality is more solid than my A6300, and general weather sealing efforts seem to be stepped up over my previous A6300 body. I was already very comfortable with A6xxx ergonomics and preferred them to my previous DSLRs - but the larger grip has improved overall ergonomics of the body while keeping the form factor of the A6xxx series that I like.

Battery life is stellar - in the world of mirrorless cameras, it's in a league of its own - DSLR territory for sure. While the full-frame bodies share the same battery, the APS-C body gets the longest CIPA rating in the mirrorless world at 810. I shoot a lot of wildlife and birding, and usually far exceed any Cipa ratings due to very little image reviewing and lots of burst shooting...my first few shoots with this camera have shown that the battery life will exceed 3,000 frames in heavy use. On my first day of wildlife shooting, I took 1,320 frames total on the A6600, and battery remaining at the end of the day was 75%.

Customizations of the menus and buttons is also excellent. With 4 direct 'C' custom buttons on the body, programmable 4-way pad buttons, and AE/AF button, 9 direct access controls can be programmed to the body along with the two dials. The Fn menu continues from past bodies, adding 12 more quick-access custom settings to be added without going into the main menu, and the My Menu has been added to the main menu as well, allowing two pages (30 items) of frequently used settings to be put in any preferred order so oft-used controls that don't fit or can't be put in Fn can be quickly accessed without going through the extensive menu pages.

Focus tracking is the big advertising point of these new bodies - as someone who shoots extensive wildlife, bird, and bird-in-flight (BIF) photography with e-mount bodies for many years now, I have never previously considered the A6xxx bodies' tracking modes to be usable. While these cameras have always been quite good for BIF shooting, it was generally using the wide focus area and AF-C focus mode, and just letting the continuous focus acquire and try to stay with the subject most obvious in the frame. Hit rate was always good - but there was no tracking, so a different subject might be picked up halfway through following a subject, or the subject could be lost if passing behind a tree or obstruction as you panned. The new Tracking AF system so far seems to live up to the hype, in being able to lock-on to a subject and stick with it while panning, and even stay with or return to it if partially obstructed. Unlike the prior Lock-on AF mode in past bodies, which couldn't reliably stick with any form of fast motion, the A6600's tracking focus is been able to stay with a bird closing head-on to the camera at 20-25MPH, even when moving side to side as it approaches.

My personal preference so far has been to use the Tracking AF mode in a way very similar to my A6300 - I use AF-C focus mode, with the Focus area set to Tracking - Wide. Initially, the acquisition of a target works the same as with my previous camera - the 'dancing dots' of active focus points cluster over the initial subject that the camera has found...but where previously I just let AF-C and those focus dots try to stay with the subject, now with Tracking engaged, the 'dancing dots' convert to a tracking rectangle around the subject, and that box stays with the subject as long as you keep focus engaged. For BIF work, it made an already very good camera system just that much better, and easier, and more reliable.

For high ISO shooting, I feel there's a roughly 1/2 stop improvement over the A6300 - which was already pretty good. While I was comfortable up to ISO 6,400 for JPG output and most uses, I find myself comfortable up to 8,000 to 10,000 on the A6600 - with a good exposure, ISO 12,800 can render surprisingly clean. Happily, the camera keeps the MFNR (Multi-frame noise reduction) ISO mode, which is an excellent tool for shooting handheld low light for scenics, landscapes, architecture, and slow movement scenes. Also useful in nighttime scenics handheld is the DRO/HDR's HDR option - also using image-stacking in camera to reduce noise but also in exposing shadows, mids, and highlights separately and blending. Both modes allow going up to 2 stops of ISO higher than whatever your main comfort levels are.

In body stabilization so far seems to work seamlessly with in-lens stabilization, and hand-holding the 200-600mm lens at 600mm has not been difficult at all. I've only had the chance to try a few tests with unstabilized lenses, and the IBIS definitely improved hand-holdability by at least 2 stops - maybe more...I need to try some actual shoots to really determine how much more.

Having MR settings on the dial, which I had become accustomed to on the A6300, was a big selling point for me over the A6400, which lost the separate MR1 and MR2 positions on the dial. I use these when out shooting wildlife and birds exclusively, with MR1 set up for still/non-flying wildlife and MR2 set up for BIF shooting. Being able to turn the dial one click and be ready to shoot with a whole different bank of settings is priceless for me...and makes fast changes in the field simple.

I haven't had any of the delay issues commented on in the main Dpreview review - which likely has to do with how I shoot and familiarity with these bodies for many years. As I shoot exclusively with the EVF, I do not encounter issues of delayed reaction switching between EVF and LCD. I turn off the touch-screen of my camera and do not use it, so I don't have any delay issues with that. I shoot still exclusively, and no video - so I do not need to be concerned over any switching delays between those two modes...I have no worries of the inability to switch between video/stills while buffer is clearing. That doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with the review on this site - all are fair observations for that reviewer - but when reading a review, one needs to take into consideration their own needs and whether any of the likes or dislikes will be relevant to their own use. For me, looking at the 'likes' in Dpreview's review - 'good video quality', 'headphone and mic sockets', '180 degree screen' all have no relevance to me...so none of those things would be on my own list of plusses. Similarly, going down their 'dislikes' list, 'ergonomics' is a personal thing and I very much like and prefer the A6xxx body ergo, 'lengthy menu' I disagree with as I don't find it difficult at all, especially with MyMenu customization, 'long buffer clear' isn't a concern as I've never been limited in shooting due to buffer as I don't tend to shoot dozens of frames consecutively for seconds at a time, 'cannot switch to video or change burst mode while buffer clears' again won't be something I will ever encounter, 'buttons and controls cramped etc' I disagree with as I've always found them to be very comfortable and easy to access on my 3 A6xxx bodies, 'no in-camera RAW' is a feature I will never use, 'bluetooth can't speed up wi-fi image transfer' is not a feature I will ever use, 'jello in video' not a concern as I do not shoot video, and 'touchscreen behavior' is not relevant to me as I do not use it. I also do not use built-in flash, so that was not a loss for me...nor was the loss of Sweep Panorama which I didn't use.

Any of those things may be much more impactful for another user - which is why we shouldn't be so dismissive or critical of a review that doesn't praise everything we love on a new camera. Just go through the list of plusses and minuses, add any of your own, eliminate any from either column that won't apply to you, and see whether you have more plusses or minuses remaining!

I consider the A6600 to be an excellent evolution of the A6xxx series, and especially a camera tuned directly for action, sports, or wildlife photographers - who can appreciate the battery life, bigger grip, extensive customization, MR settings on the dial, and market-leading continuous AF and tracking AF system.
 
I have two batteries now for my A6600 - I had put a spare on my Christmas list just because I like the insurance, even if I rarely ever need the second battery. And so far, I have yet to need more than one battery on all my shooting days.

My first shoot when I got out to the wetlands with the body for the first time was a bit over 1,300 frames and 75% remaining, shooting a lot of bursts.

Second day of shooting, I kept that battery onboard, with no additional charging, and ran another 650 shots, with the battery at 67% when done.

The following weekend, December 21st, I had a good clear day and decided to rotate over to battery #2 (I charged both fully this time)...I came back with 680 shots. I ran off a few shots around the house of the Christmas tree and decor, plus a series of test shots around the house for high ISO, and MFNR modes - maybe another 100 shots total, with a ton of chimping and reviewing. I also played around with more customization and tweaks to the MR settings. Then, on Christmas Eve, I had the day off and decided to take a short day out in the wetlands again - same battery, same original charge. I ran off 400 more shots. The following weekend, Dec 28th, I went out for a full day of shooting at my local wetlands, to shoot a few with the 100-400mm lens, and then to switch over to the 200-600mm lens to get my first test shots in with that gear - I shot a lot more than usual as I was testing the new lens, so I came home at the end of that day with a beefy 1,400 shots. At the end of all that, 33% remaining on the battery - with 3 different days of shooting and a total of nearly 2,600 shots, with a ton of chimping and menu setting play in between, plus lots of image review of my shots at the end of each shooting day.

On New Year's Day, I decided to head out early to get to two more northerly wetlands I don't get to as often, and ran off 890 shots on Battery 1, which had been freshly charged back on Dec 21, but never used. That brought me to 87%, so I kept that battery in when I headed out on Saturday Jan 4th to my local wetlands again, on a decent day - with a further 480 shots. Not really feeling the need to check battery life, I just went out again Sunday, meeting up with Snapa for some more shooting - this time with a lot of BIF shooting staying until dusk...weather was beautiful, and I was testing the 200-600mm lens by itself, as well as with the 1.4x teleconverter...so again, I was taking a lot more shots than usual. I wrapped up with 1,507 shots on Sunday, for a grand total on one battery over 3 shooting days of 2,877 shots, and remaining battery life of 54%.

I've surmised that the battery life is firmly in the same territory as my A580 DSLR was - where during normal, every day shooting and reviewing, it's probably capable of pretty consistent 1,000 frame days, and when shooting sports/wildlife with a lot of end-of-day chimping or reviewing, it will deliver comfortable 3,000 frame days...when shooting wildlife or sports with little to no chimping or reviewing, it may approach 6,000 frames on a battery.

Not that I ever expect to reach those numbers - I just don't want to sort through that many photos! I'm already slightly overwhelmed with nearly 2,000 shots this past weekend - I'll be aggressively sorting through and deleting a ton of shots even if they're focused and shot OK - just because I'll have a lot of duplicates - since much of this was testing new lenses, new body, new settings, etc...now that I feel comfortable with the camera's performance, my settings and preferences, and the new 200-600mm lens, I can get back to normal shooting again. I'll likely make it a policy to rotate through the batteries each weekend, just to keep them both used evenly...it's nice to know I can shoot a whole weekend and not even use up one battery - and yet still have another in a back pocket ready if ever needed.
 
Hi Justin,

if you ever find some time, would you be willing to post your settings for the A6600 now that you have done your tweaking?

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Hi Justin,

if you ever find some time, would you be willing to post your settings for the A6600 now that you have done your tweaking?
I've changed very little in the end from the initial settings...after experimenting with a few different NR settings, the only tweak I made from my original settings is I'm currently on High ISO NR at Normal. My first two weeks I shot it at Low. I'm still undecided which I'll stick with - I wanted to try both out in the wetlands for a few hundred shots to really get to feel how they are different. It's very minor - so I think I'm likely going to stick with Normal at this point.

Here are all my settings from the first post about it, all of which are still current (except that NR as mentioned):

I've put the Fn menu as:

Top row:

Focus Area / Focus Mode / Metering Mode / White Balance / Silent Shutter / Steady Shot On-Off

Bottom row:

ISO Min SS / Finder Frame Rate / RAW-JPG settings / Subject Detection / Eye-AF switch eye / Peaking Color

.

.

For the custom buttons, I've initially set as:

C1 – ISO (I've always mapped it here as it's better for me and more familiar)

C2 – Focus Area (so I can change focus tracking modes quickly)

C3 - Recall Custom Hold - set to my MR2 setting

C4 - DRO/HDR (I've had it here on all my cameras

AE Lock – AE Lock toggle

AF/MF – AF/MF toggle

Left button – Drive mode

Right button – Monitor/EVF setting

Down button – EV

.

.

General camera settings on some modes I can think of:

Airplane mode - ON

File Format - JPG

JPG Quality - Extra Fine

Long-Exposure NR - OFF

High ISO NR - Low (now Normal)

Priority Set in AF-S - Balanced Emphasis

Priority Set in AF-C - Release

AF Illuminator - OFF

AF w/Shutter - ON

Pre-AF - OFF

Face/Eye Priority in AF - OFF

Subject Detection - Human

Right/Left Eye - Auto

Face Detect Frame Display: OFF

Animal Eye Display - ON

Display Continuous AF Area - ON

Circ of Focus Point - Does Not Circulate

Spot Metering Point - Focus Point Link

AEL w/shutter - OFF (I prefer to lock exposure with the AEL button)

Priority Set in AWB - White

Creative Style: Vivid, with Contrast 0, Saturation -1, Sharpness -1

Picture Effect - OFF

Picture Profile - OFF

MF assist - OFF

Peaking Level - Low

Peaking Color - Red

Regis. Face Priority - OFF (I don't use registered faces)

Smile Shutter - OFF

Auto Object Framing - OFF

Self-portrait Timer - OFF

Movie Settings - I don't use movie mode, so all is default settings for me

e-Front Curtain Shutter - ON

Release w/o Lens - Enable

Release w/o Card - Disable

Zoom - Optical only

Finder Frame Rate; Standard (I switch to high in Fn menu when needed)

Zebra - OFF

Grid Line - Rule of Thirds

Exposure Set Guide - OFF

Live View Display - Setting Effect ON

Auto Review - OFF

Movie button - movie mode only

Dial/Wheel Lock - Unlock

Airplane Mode: ON

Tile Menu - OFF

Mode Dial Guide - OFF

Auto Power Off Temp - HIGH

Touch Operation - OFF

.

.

For my MR1 - it's pretty much the same as my A6300: AF-S, Focus Area - Spot (medium), Center weighted metering, Drive mode: Continuous (low), SS on, Auto ISO 100-6400, ISO Min SS (slow).

For my MR2 - I'll experiment with the following: AF-C, Focus Area: Tracking - Wide, Center weighted metering, Drive mode: Continuous (high 8fps), SS off, Auto ISO 100-6400, Min SS (standard), S Priority 1/1000 default.
 
I feel your review should be linked to the official DP review with label "here is another perspective" - probably at the very beginning. Sure people (including me) expected more improvements in the A6600 but rating the Sony behind a camera that has no View Finder, no IBIS, and that does many things right while it does not excel anywhere (you know what I am referring to) was questionable to say the least.
Scoring is against cameras in similar price bands.The A6600 was released at $1,400, pitting it against the X-T3, RP (R?), And A7III. The M6ii competes against the A6400, X-T30, and Z50(LOL).
 
I have two batteries now for my A6600 - I had put a spare on my Christmas list just because I like the insurance, even if I rarely ever need the second battery. And so far, I have yet to need more than one battery on all my shooting days.

My first shoot when I got out to the wetlands with the body for the first time was a bit over 1,300 frames and 75% remaining, shooting a lot of bursts.

Second day of shooting, I kept that battery onboard, with no additional charging, and ran another 650 shots, with the battery at 67% when done.

The following weekend, December 21st, I had a good clear day and decided to rotate over to battery #2 (I charged both fully this time)...I came back with 680 shots. I ran off a few shots around the house of the Christmas tree and decor, plus a series of test shots around the house for high ISO, and MFNR modes - maybe another 100 shots total, with a ton of chimping and reviewing. I also played around with more customization and tweaks to the MR settings. Then, on Christmas Eve, I had the day off and decided to take a short day out in the wetlands again - same battery, same original charge. I ran off 400 more shots. The following weekend, Dec 28th, I went out for a full day of shooting at my local wetlands, to shoot a few with the 100-400mm lens, and then to switch over to the 200-600mm lens to get my first test shots in with that gear - I shot a lot more than usual as I was testing the new lens, so I came home at the end of that day with a beefy 1,400 shots. At the end of all that, 33% remaining on the battery - with 3 different days of shooting and a total of nearly 2,600 shots, with a ton of chimping and menu setting play in between, plus lots of image review of my shots at the end of each shooting day.

On New Year's Day, I decided to head out early to get to two more northerly wetlands I don't get to as often, and ran off 890 shots on Battery 1, which had been freshly charged back on Dec 21, but never used. That brought me to 87%, so I kept that battery in when I headed out on Saturday Jan 4th to my local wetlands again, on a decent day - with a further 480 shots. Not really feeling the need to check battery life, I just went out again Sunday, meeting up with Snapa for some more shooting - this time with a lot of BIF shooting staying until dusk...weather was beautiful, and I was testing the 200-600mm lens by itself, as well as with the 1.4x teleconverter...so again, I was taking a lot more shots than usual. I wrapped up with 1,507 shots on Sunday, for a grand total on one battery over 3 shooting days of 2,877 shots, and remaining battery life of 54%.

I've surmised that the battery life is firmly in the same territory as my A580 DSLR was - where during normal, every day shooting and reviewing, it's probably capable of pretty consistent 1,000 frame days, and when shooting sports/wildlife with a lot of end-of-day chimping or reviewing, it will deliver comfortable 3,000 frame days...when shooting wildlife or sports with little to no chimping or reviewing, it may approach 6,000 frames on a battery.

Not that I ever expect to reach those numbers - I just don't want to sort through that many photos! I'm already slightly overwhelmed with nearly 2,000 shots this past weekend - I'll be aggressively sorting through and deleting a ton of shots even if they're focused and shot OK - just because I'll have a lot of duplicates - since much of this was testing new lenses, new body, new settings, etc...now that I feel comfortable with the camera's performance, my settings and preferences, and the new 200-600mm lens, I can get back to normal shooting again. I'll likely make it a policy to rotate through the batteries each weekend, just to keep them both used evenly...it's nice to know I can shoot a whole weekend and not even use up one battery - and yet still have another in a back pocket ready if ever needed.
How does your 100-400 perform? Is it sharp throughout the whole aperture and telephoto ranges? Is it comfortable for you to handhold it for hours? Which one the two, 100-400 or 200-600 is sharper? Is it possible to handhold 200-600 for at least an hour? Sorry for all these questions but I'm torn between them leaning toward 100-400 because of compactness and less weight.
 
Wow, one of the best written reviews I have read in the DP forums in a very long time. As a still shooter myself i agree with comments in regards to "use and don't use". If I could sum it all up it sounds like the 6600 is a poor mans A9. Until I read your review I was going to pass up on the 6600, now I will have to consider it.

Thank you,

D2F
 

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