n3eg
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What, can Panasonic NOT make a PDAF sensor? They can't make a BSI sensor, so guess not.
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Daniel Cox (Ambassador) has been fired by Panasonic
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While you’re here, what exactly don’t you like, or wanted to see changed in regards to Panasonics AF? What were you not happy with?
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If someone is affiliated with, sponsored by, or is/was an employee of any company, their opinion on their products is suspect.
Daniel was slightly different in that he reviewed a lot of gear from different brands. But still, his opinion on Panasonic products would hold more weight without the affiliation.
At least now he has no obligation to them and is free to give his honest opinion.
Just in case you (or anyone else) are interested in seeing the difference without having to download his files, here's a quick screen grab showing an (over)enlarged section from the centre of each test shot:
Obviously it's the Sony on the left and the Olympus on the right. To me that's quite a big difference, especially if the Olympus is technically a sharper lens.
That illustrates the benefit of more pixels when it comes to capturing detail. It would certainly be interesting to see if that advantage disappears/reverses when using a 24mp Sony, or indeed high-res mode on the Olympus.
danieljcox
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Ruairi, did you downsample the Sony file?Just in case you (or anyone else) are interested in seeing the difference without having to download his files, here's a quick screen grab showing an (over)enlarged section from the centre of each test shot:
Obviously it's the Sony on the left and the Olympus on the right. To me that's quite a big difference, especially if the Olympus is technically a sharper lens.
That illustrates the benefit of more pixels when it comes to capturing detail. It would certainly be interesting to see if that advantage disappears/reverses when using a 24mp Sony, or indeed high-res mode on the Olympus.
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Ergellegre
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Do you mean Steve?Ruairi, did you downsample the Sony file?Just in case you (or anyone else) are interested in seeing the difference without having to download his files, here's a quick screen grab showing an (over)enlarged section from the centre of each test shot:
Obviously it's the Sony on the left and the Olympus on the right. To me that's quite a big difference, especially if the Olympus is technically a sharper lens.
That illustrates the benefit of more pixels when it comes to capturing detail. It would certainly be interesting to see if that advantage disappears/reverses when using a 24mp Sony, or indeed high-res mode on the Olympus.
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Daniel J. Cox
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Sounds worth having a look. I assume it is more common to downsample 20+mp images than it is to upsample. Certainly wouldn't upsample an image to compare lenses.
Mark Ransom
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These days it is never necessary to bribe someone. Just find somebody who has the views you want to promote, and back them to the greatest extent allowed. Usually it works out to the benefit of everybody involved, and there's nothing shady or illegal about it.
The only danger in that approach is that people's opinions can change.
The only danger in that approach is that people's opinions can change.
And good for him. That kind of person makes the best kind of ambassador, because you can trust their opinion. I wish him well on whatever comes next.
Because he is a bitter old man. And because he has no idea what brand ambassador really is.
Kung Pao Panda
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Do you mean poster NCV?
bobn2
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You're right, his reference to sex workers is somewhat awry. From what we've established here, 'ambassadors' are more akin to pimps.
bobn2
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I very much doubt that it will. There are all kinds of problem with TOF for photographic rangefinding. It's very, very unlikely to give better results than PDAF. It might in some specialist indoor movie situations, but for the bulk of photography it would be next to useless.
bobn2
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Internet girlfriend reviews. Now there's a thing.
Guy Parsons
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Isn't that how Facebook started?
Probably as close as quite a number of camera geeks will get to the real thing.
bluelemmy
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Which is why brand ambassadors and all that nonsense should be taken with a pinch of salt. I argue the PD/DfD case as I see fit. I can say what I like because I buy the stuff I review and have nothing to lose by saying what I think.
Neither Panasonic or Olympus will even answer my emails, showing that they are not in the least bothered by what I say, if they even know I exist. But the minute they give you gear or even put you on their loan list they can exert pressure on you by threatening to remove your privileges.
I'm with the companies in this - if they are going to fly you out to places, loan or give you equipment, wine you, dine, you, can you really expect to give them nothing in return?
The newspapers and magazines, ambassadors and all say that it doesn't change what they write. How can they know that? I used to do quite a bit of work for travel departments of newspapers and magazines where the trips are always paid for by the travel company. I know that that makes a difference. Photography is no different.
I'm pointing no fingers here, it's a dog eat dog commercial world. But the fact remains, nothing is for nothing and to think otherwise is naive.
bobn2
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I'm sorry you've had such a bad experience.
When comparing telephoto options, I'm mainly interested in which will give me the most reach.Do you mean Steve?Ruairi, did you downsample the Sony file?Just in case you (or anyone else) are interested in seeing the difference without having to download his files, here's a quick screen grab showing an (over)enlarged section from the centre of each test shot:
Obviously it's the Sony on the left and the Olympus on the right. To me that's quite a big difference, especially if the Olympus is technically a sharper lens.
That illustrates the benefit of more pixels when it comes to capturing detail. It would certainly be interesting to see if that advantage disappears/reverses when using a 24mp Sony, or indeed high-res mode on the Olympus.
Sounds worth having a look. I assume it is more common to downsample 20+mp images than it is to upsample. Certainly wouldn't upsample an image to compare lenses.
For example, if I'm shooting a small bird and can't get close enough to fill the frame, which can I crop and enlarge more without the quality becoming unacceptable for my needs?
To me the extra fine detail visible in the Sony test shot seems likely to translate into more fine detail in e.g. a bird's feathers in real world use. If I can get a usable 16x12 print from the Sony that would be too soft/pixelated from the Olympus, that's more interesting to me than how they'd look at 1:1 or downsampled.
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Jer81
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When someone is putt off there are always two sides of the story.
It's easy as an employee to blame the company in public. The company most of the time won't or can't react because of personal information.
I don't know anything about his contract and how relations between this photographer and his manager/the company was.
Was it only because of the criticizing of the focus system or was there more? We don't know and we probably will never know.
Better we don't jump to conclusions.
It's easy as an employee to blame the company in public. The company most of the time won't or can't react because of personal information.
I don't know anything about his contract and how relations between this photographer and his manager/the company was.
Was it only because of the criticizing of the focus system or was there more? We don't know and we probably will never know.
Better we don't jump to conclusions.
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