Advise me a good budget Mirrorless camera, Currently nusing Nikon D7200 .

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Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?

Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?
 
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Your Nikon is likely to be fairly good still. No need to "upgrade". DSLRs are good, but I find them a little bulky personally. But if it works OK for you, I don't see any reason to switch.

The vast majority of people use DSLRs currently, mirrorless is just the way of the future because of weight (in my opinion).

But they're still good and are not going away anytime soon.

If you want a smaller camera you could go for a sony ASP-C mirrorless camera or micro 4/3 (pretty cheap used gear). But likely your DSLR will slightly outperform micro 4/3, with its slightly larger sensor (but not by much).

There's no reason to switch because of some fad that may come in the distant future.
 
Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.
If you're satisfied with it, there's zero reason to spend money to get something else.
But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.
He wants you to spend money on something you don't need. If you're already satisfied with your current camera, there's no need to get something else.
As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?
It's just as capable and has advantages in some areas (like battery life).
Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?
Just don't buy anything and don't visit that shop again :P

Only buy things if you aren't satisfied with what you already have. Also watch out when they try to sell you accessories like wide angle/telephoto adapters, extra batteries, and so on.
 
It's not an upgrade, trust me. After my 7200 was stolen I tried the Sony a6300 because the store owner thought it was "the way to go". I tried hard to like that camera for 9 months and it was not a good fit for me, I put it on Craigs list and happily sold it. If you want an upgrade try the Nikon 7500, wonderful camera at a terrific price.
 
Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.
So a salesman says you need to upgrade?

I'm shocked.
I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?
You will read that exact thing in this thread soon. Just tell PhotoTeach he's wrong.
Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?
If you don't know why you need a new camera....

You don't need a new camera.
 
It's not an upgrade, trust me. After my 7200 was stolen I tried the Sony a6300 because the store owner thought it was "the way to go". I tried hard to like that camera for 9 months and it was not a good fit for me, I put it on Craigs list and happily sold it. If you want an upgrade try the Nikon 7500
Not an upgrade either.

Many consider it a downgrade due to the D7200 features that were absent in the D7500.

Others say sidegrade.

--
Never forget..."some people did something" - Ilhan Omar
 
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Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?

Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?
Here's some good advice: your next upgrade should be mirrorless.

The very reasoned and reliable Thom Hogan recently came back from an African Safari. For the first time ever, he took only mirrorless bodies--a Z6 and a Z7. The result?

In his words, "...the trip was insane. Off-the-charts insane...Had the Nikon Z's failed me, I'd be furious right now, because in 25 years of going to Africa I haven't seen such an amazing parade of animals. Instead, I'm perfectly happy. These images speak for themselves.

Some of the VERY REAL MIRRORLESS BENEFITS he found:
  • The EVF coupled with magnification makes a better-than-spotting scope (or binoculars) scanning device.
  • The EVF allowed me to see what I was doing during near pitch black conditions (I shot the mostly nocturnal Hyenas at ISO 25600 successfully, for example; the following shot was almost an hour after sunset).
  • The EVF allowed me to see what I was shooting in bright conditions (the rear LCD can wash out in bright sun, and the DSLR viewfinder can wash out shooting into the sun, too).
  • The smaller size of the gear I was using allowed me to juggle two complete systems in the front seat of the Land Cruiser where I had very minimal space available (lens choice helped here).
  • 500mm on a Z7 is also 750mm at DX crop on a Z7 (and 20mp), as good as you'd get from a D500.
  • Complex metering situations, such as lions in foreground at sunrise, are far easier to evaluate when you're looking at what the camera is actually going to do (e.g. Custom Setting D8 set to On).
  • Doing "manual focus touchup" when you have grass in front and in back of a subject is simple: magnify, adjust the manual focus ring with peaking enabled, shoot. Note that in the following shot, most of the Z's Autofocus Area Modes would pick up the foreground bush. Easily corrected.
Read all that and more here: http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/a-nikon-mirrorless-safari.html

All that exposes the DSLR for what it is--a tired, old weatherbeaten technology well past its sell-by date. Time to put it out to pasture!

BE VERY WARY of "advice" suggesting otherwise! Some here have a massive--and I do mean MASSIVE--conflict of interest. They own DSLRs, have seen people abandoning ship and not just the development cycles of their lenses, bodies, and accessories slowing, but also their prices rising. The more people who leave, the more such a trend will accelerate, so they have a vested interest in keeping people within the fold, so to speak.

DON'T FALL FOR IT!

--
"Gotta catch em all," he muttered. "Gotta catch em all,"...
 
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You all ready own one of the highest rated cameras in its class. It's also as small and light as most mirrorless cameras and lighter than many. If there is something that you want to do that the camera won't allow, then trade up. Otherwise you're just wasting money.

Improve your photography by spending your money on a good workshop. That is always Thom Hogan's number one piece of advice. He has never advocated changing systems or upgrading to get the latest and greatest. If you think I'm exaggerating, send him an email and ask, he always graciously responds.
 
Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?

Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?
You have a decent kit. Hang on to it for some more time. I dont see any real reason for you to upgrade, since the 24MP nikons are still up-to-date as far as sensor is concerned. And the D7xxx series has some nice to have features like top LCD, dual SD card slots etc. An equivalent mirrorless body will actually be really expensive, if it exists. The 18-140 and 50mm are good lenses as well covering almost 99% of general photography needs.

Now if you have some money to spend, buy accessories like a nice sturdy tripod, remote, play around with grad filters, buy or subscribe to a photo editing tool, invest in tutorials if you need, get additional storage or a more powerful computer if you are currently using an old one.

If you already have all or most of the above, get a macro lens, or a wide angle, that will give you new perspectives to shoot from. Or get a flash and make your own diffuser or reflector and experiment with light. Nikon has the excellent CLS system, that is built into your D7200 already, so you only need to buy flash, not the remotes for that.

All of these things above will improve your photography or atleast give you something to learn and hone your skills. Buying another camera of any type is not going to give you any images that you cant already shoot with your gear. The D7200 is more capable than almost all mirrorless and it will wipe the floor with any mirror-less cameras in its own price range.
 
Ah, a whole page of salesman bs! No, you don't need to part with your money.
Here's some good advice: your next upgrade should be mirrorless

The very reasoned and reliable Thom Hogan recently came back from an African Safari. For the first time ever, he took only mirrorless bodies--a Z6 and a Z7. The result?
Translation: "go spend money on something you won't need that doesn't make a difference and is incompatible with what you already have, and comes with its own set of shortcomings"
In his words, "...the trip was insane. Off-the-charts insane...Had the Nikon Z's failed me, I'd be furious right now, because in 25 years of going to Africa I haven't seen such an amazing parade of animals. Instead, I'm perfectly happy. These images speak for themselves.
Translation: "I got some amazing images because I was in the right place at the right time, and the Nikon Zs happened to not fail. But DSLRs are just fine for that too and also don't fail." Basically Thom was surprised mirrorless worked as well as a DSLR would have.
Some of the VERY REAL MIRRORLESS BENEFITS he found:
  • The EVF coupled with magnification makes a better-than-spotting scope (or binoculars) scanning device.
  • The EVF allowed me to see what I was doing during near pitch black conditions (I shot the mostly nocturnal Hyenas at ISO 25600 successfully, for example; the following shot was almost an hour after sunset).
  • The EVF allowed me to see what I was shooting in bright conditions (the rear LCD can wash out in bright sun, and the DSLR viewfinder can wash out shooting into the sun, too).
  • The smaller size of the gear I was using allowed me to juggle two complete systems in the front seat of the Land Cruiser where I had very minimal space available (lens choice helped here).
^ valid advantages if you feel like not having those things are holding you back. If you specifically want those things and feel like spending several thousand dollars, go for it.
  • 500mm on a Z7 is also 750mm at DX crop on a Z7 (and 20mp), as good as you'd get from a D500.
The D7200 has a slightly higher resolution sensor than the D500 and Z7.
  • Complex metering situations, such as lions in foreground at sunrise, are far easier to evaluate when you're looking at what the camera is actually going to do (e.g. Custom Setting D8 set to On).
  • Doing "manual focus touchup" when you have grass in front and in back of a subject is simple: magnify, adjust the manual focus ring with peaking enabled, shoot. Note that in the following shot, most of the Z's Autofocus Area Modes would pick up the foreground bush. Easily corrected.
Read all that and more here: http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/a-nikon-mirrorless-safari.html
^ also valid advantages if you feel like not having those features holds you back. Just gonna note that you can easily get the right exposure with a DSLR (say with spot metering) and that doesn't cost you an extra few thousand dollars.
All that exposes the DSLR for what it is--a tired, old weatherbeaten technology well past its sell-by date. Time to put it out to pasture!
DSLRs are a tried and tested technology that works well. Mirrorless uses similar image sensors, but removes the optical viewfinder and dedicated autofocus module, resulting in a lighter package that relies on the main image sensor to autofocus and provide an electronic preview.
BE VERY WARY of "advice" suggesting otherwise! Some here have a massive--and I do mean MASSIVE--conflict of interest. They own DSLRs, have seen people abandoning ship and not just the development cycles of their lenses, bodies, and accessories slowing, but also their prices rising.
Not really. For starters mirrorless is more expensive. The Nikon Z7 costs $3000, the Sony a9 costs a whopping $3.5K. Sure, some high end DSLRs like the D850 cost $3000, but the real cost for mirrorless is in the lenses.

With DSLRs, there's plenty of old glass from the 1990s and 2000s you can get off ebay and use natively. You technically can get an adapter for mirrorless, but you lose things like autofocus. Then there are little details like Sony's on-sensor phase detect AF only working with certain lenses, while a DSLR's dedicated PDAF sensor will work with all native lenses, including third party ones.

If you are willing to drop autofocus, costs start to line up better because you can mount really old MF lenses on either DSLRs or mirrorless cameras without losing much.
The more people who leave, the more such a trend will accelerate, so they have a vested interest in keeping people within the fold, so to speak.

DON'T FALL FOR IT!
The DSLR ecosystem will continue to exist regardless of what you buy (there's a whole ton of people who prefer DSLRs, and Nikon/Canon will continue to support them), so spending a few thousand dollars on a mirrorless camera, then a few thousand dollars on equivalent lenses is quite insane.
 
As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?
That is not true. The D7200 is as good as any APS-C mirrorless available today.
Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?
Keep the D7200.
 
All that exposes the DSLR for what it is--a tired, old weatherbeaten technology well past its sell-by date. Time to put it out to pasture!
The imaging technology within a DSLR and MILC is 100% same. Too hard to explain that to non-technological folk who confuse technology with gadgets. You are perfect example of the weak minds preyed upon by the marketing folks at consumer oriented companies like Sony, Apple etc. I bet you also bought a 3-D tv, a curved TV etc in every new size that was released.
BE VERY WARY of "advice" suggesting otherwise! Some here have a massive--and I do mean MASSIVE--conflict of interest. They own DSLRs, have seen people abandoning ship and not just the development cycles of their lenses, bodies, and accessories slowing, but also their prices rising.
Actually DSLR prices are falling and today in less than 500$ you can get entry-level body with 2 excellent kits lenses. Used market is even better as you can easily get a FF body and kit lens within 1000$, something unthinkable just a few years back. This is the best time to buy DSLRs for anyone who doesnt fall for marketing gimmicks. People dont sell their perfectly good car and buy another one only for the latest stereo system!! There is no hidden agenda!!
The more people who leave, the more such a trend will accelerate, so they have a vested interest in keeping people within the fold, so to speak.

DON'T FALL FOR IT!
 
DO NOT FALL FOR THAT LINE - I tried to go mirrorless - really hard for an entire year -- worst most frustrating year of my photographic hobby. Unless you just photograph things that sit still and don't care that you are seeing what just recently happened in the viewfinder and blur if you move the camera while looking through the vf.
 
Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.
this is your answer. the person telling you that you need to upgrade is a salesman that sees you as an opportunity for an extra buck.

i would advise you to not buy from him again and steer other people away from him.
 
Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.
So a salesman says you need to upgrade?

I'm shocked.
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I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?
You will read that exact thing in this thread soon. Just tell PhotoTeach he's wrong.
:-D:-D:-D
Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?
If you don't know why you need a new camera....

You don't need a new camera.
+1
 
I am going to avoid any thing on mirrorless / dslr.

However strictly to the title of your OP, might suggest the Panasonic GX85 and twin lens kit (a 12~32 f/3.5~5.6 pancake and 45~250 f/4~5.6. These 2 lenses have a combined equivalent FoV of 24mm ~ 300mm of FF). Currently it is generally available at US$500.

It is an upper ~ mid range class model around in between the D5??? ~ D7??? line of product, in RF form factor, of 400+g in weight, plus the 70g pancake lens and 200g telephoto lens as a very portable setup without breaking our back, nor bank.

A Swiss Army pocket knife sort of tool suitable for a lot of general shooting. Specially goid for travelling. It is 4K ready, dual wheels to control 7 settings, 8fps burst speed, silence shutter, up to 1/16,000", low lighting AF unassisted up to <-5ev (f/2.8), live view for see-to-adjust setting, DUAL IS up to 5 stops, IBIS for steady run and gun video shooting, 30fps high speed shooting, all sort of in-camera features of mirrorless like 4 modes of bracketing, panorama, focus stacking, real time highlight alert / histogram, auto focus point magnification for MF...

However, not ideal AF tracking ability for fast action shots because of its CDAF (AFS speed is comparable to any dslr), no Mic port for serious video shooter and non weather seal. Also around 2/3ev smaller shooting envelop than your APSC camera.

DSLR is perfect to use now until failure. However, the already very mature SLR technology won't go much further now. Mirrorless is basically a small computer. It might not perfect yet (look back the the PC 10~20 years ago) because of the bottle necks on hardware upto today. e.g. AF needs computational power to make it faster (Sony has addressed it already whereas dslr can do it on lower end models), evf needs a faster refresh unit to make them same or better than ovf, live view needs more processing power to make it updated faster, more energy efficient electronic for longer battery life, and higher capacity battery etc for the energy hungry live view shooting.

All of these recent shortages are capable to improve. So your shopper is correct, one day mirrorless can rule, by that time dslr will become film slr today: still used by some people, no longer a main stream tool. However this will not happen soon.

So, all depends on would you wish to start getting familiar with the new rising tool or would embrace the traditional tool you love to use. I kept using my GSM phone until a couple of years ago. Same on using Wi-Fi. Now have a harder time to catch up. YMMV.
 
Hello All,

Please advise me Budget Mirror Less camera (Equivalent to Nikon D7200, Canon 90D). But I have limited budget.

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?

Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?
This is coming from a very happy Fuji X-T20 mirrorless user. You have a very solid camera. If you feel as though something is missing; that you have outgrown the capacity of the camera then, by all means, explore the alternatives.

Sensors have only improved incrementally since your camera was made. I doubt you would notice much difference (if you stick with APS-C).

Only now is AF capabilities of mirrorless eclipsing DSLR. If you have a high keeper rate, focus-wise, don't expect a mirrorless to improve upon that much. And they work differently so the transition can be awkward sometimes.

WYSIWYG is awesome, now that the EVF is coming into its own. The refresh rate, pixel count and eyepoint of the EVF are very important when choosing a mirrorless. If you like your optical viewfinder, there is hardly an upgrade path.

Again, you have a very solid camera. If you are looking for a new shooting experience, check into it. If you want to improve your photography, take more pictures, join some meet-ups, or take a class. You don't need a different camera to make great pictures!

Whatever you do, don't let salespeople bend your mind. There is a conflict of interest at play.
 
Hello All,

Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

But shop
from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.

I don't know he is advising me good or Its his personal benefits.
The advice to switch to mirrorless may be good (or not) WHEN THE TIME COMES to upgrade. But the advice to spend your money when you are satisfied with your current gear is in his personal benefit.
Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless.
I underlined the important points. Don't spend your money until YOU see a need (or have a desire) for something you don't have.

I had a D7000. Spent years shooting e-mount (A6000 then A6500) alongside it. Ended up selling the e-mount gear and upgrading to a D7500. There's nothing wrong a DSLR.

- Dennis
--
Gallery at http://kingofthebeasts.smugmug.com
 
But shop from where I brought these stuff he is insisting me to upgrade and saying DSLRs are old technology and Mirrorless are Future bla bla. He is trying to wash my head.
The D7200 is an excellent camera. Sounds like this dealer is trying to "churn and burn" your savings account.
 
Currently using Nikon D7200 with 18-140mm & 50mm lens I am satisfied with it.

As I am not professional but is it true that Nikon D7200 is not capable to take pictures like Mirrorless?

Need your advise including whether I should Continue D7200 or Upgrade in Mirrorless. Which DSLT is(Mirror Less) better ?
You are satisfied with your camera! So unless you there is something you desperately want (and I emphasize want since we amateurs do not need), there does not seem to be a point to upgrade.

As for the capabilities of your camera, it is a fine machine, as are many modern DSLRs. If you have doubts, visit the pages of well-known photography awards. If you go, for example, the Audubon 2019 Awards, you'll see one of the winners used a D3300, which is supposed to be lower than your camera. If you check the top 100 of said contest, on the Nikon side of things you'll see fantastic photos taken with the likes of the D3x00, D5x00, D7x00 amongst other Nikons.

-K
 

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